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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 9, 2023 19:33:26 GMT
I’ve seen it said, by a reputable ITK, that half the squad hate him. I'd wager that half of his own family hate him. He's that much of an aloof, unlikeable turd.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 9, 2023 19:34:53 GMT
I’ve seen it said, by a reputable ITK, that half the squad hate him. I'd wager that half of his own family hate him. He's that much of an aloof, unlikeable turd. No need.
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Post by BuckRogers on Dec 9, 2023 19:35:50 GMT
I do know he fell out with Wesley a while ago
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Post by questionable on Dec 9, 2023 19:46:51 GMT
If he went on holiday during the international break he simply should be fired And who sanctioned that ? Pathetic They absolutely sanctioned it. A stoke fan who lives and works over there has a picture of him reading his bar menu. Prick Bet he couldn’t put an order together from it
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Post by skip on Dec 9, 2023 19:50:23 GMT
They absolutely sanctioned it. A stoke fan who lives and works over there has a picture of him reading his bar menu. Prick Bet he couldn’t put an order together from it
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Post by Roger Everyone on Dec 9, 2023 19:52:37 GMT
I personally don't think he ever has had the dressing room in all the time he has been here.
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Post by kerouac on Dec 9, 2023 20:25:27 GMT
Definitely not. He looks as though he's lost them and he sounded a broken man on the radio just. Normally he gives his bullshit excuses as though he himself believes what he is saying but not tonight. I think he knows that's it. Your post could have been copied and posted about our last two managerial exits on threads following a similar dire set of results. I just hope you’re right..
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 9, 2023 20:28:03 GMT
Definitely not. He looks as though he's lost them and he sounded a broken man on the radio just. Normally he gives his bullshit excuses as though he himself believes what he is saying but not tonight. I think he knows that's it. Your post could have been copied and posted from our last two managerial exits… I just hope you’re right.. I know mate but unless the board change the way the club is run and stop giving managers the run of it then this post will be happening again in a years time if not sooner.
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Post by kerouac on Dec 9, 2023 20:30:31 GMT
Your post could have been copied and posted from our last two managerial exits… I just hope you’re right.. I know mate but unless the board change the way the club is run and stop giving managers the run of it then this post will be happening again in a years time if not sooner. I completely agree….the whole ethos,running and direction of the club needs to change,although weirdly with this latest influx of foreign players etc I thought it had.How fucking wrong I was.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 9, 2023 20:38:44 GMT
I know mate but unless the board change the way the club is run and stop giving managers the run of it then this post will be happening again in a years time if not sooner. I completely agree….the whole ethos,running and direction of the club needs to change,although weirdly with this latest influx of foreign players etc I thought it had.How fucking wrong I was. You weren't alone mate. I thought we had changed to a more modern approach but it turns out that nothing has changed. Our owners must see how successfully it works at clubs like Brentford and Brighton to name two but they continue to do it their way which is completely fucking the club. I can't get my head around it as it is costing them a fortune every time they have to start again.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Dec 9, 2023 20:39:26 GMT
I don't care if they all love him, the results are the proof in the pudding.
He has to go.
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Post by metalhead on Dec 9, 2023 20:54:24 GMT
Did he ever have it?
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Post by barnscfc1 on Dec 9, 2023 20:59:56 GMT
Hes certainly lost the fans, those left at the end made themselves heard.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 9, 2023 21:35:50 GMT
On the topic of the manager in Dubai, which is a disgrace if true, I’m surprised more hasn’t been made of the ‘christmas do’ after the Plymouth game unless I’ve missed it Non-issues both for me. Players are entitled to a Xmas do. Churlish to deny them. A few days off in an international window is ok... I think this was the first such break this season. I believe AN is committed to Stoke but it just isn't worling out. Don’t you know he should have been fighting them naked in the showers sticking the nut on anyone who dared question his vindictiveness.
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Post by generationex on Dec 9, 2023 22:03:27 GMT
Didn’t do SCFC any harm when the manager did. This lot are gutless wastemen. Starting with Neil.
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Post by barnscfc1 on Dec 9, 2023 22:10:45 GMT
He doesn't have the supporters anymore by the sounds at full time and the empty seats.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 9, 2023 22:17:25 GMT
If your line manager was making you worse at your job, you would not be very likely to think highly of them.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 9, 2023 22:57:52 GMT
Did he ever have it to begin with? Surprised it took this long into the thread for someone to say this. They're still, even now, a new squad who should be far along the "gelling" process but it just hasn't happened. I know we've had injuries and suspensions to players who should have been massive to us, but there's also been too much chopping and changing. No chance to gain consistency or develop an identity. It just hasn't worked other than odd sequences which are now clearly freak sequences. I don't blame Neil or the club for the squad overhaul because it needed to be done. The jury is still out on the majority of players which, I think, means we can't blame recruitment. It was a gamble that needed to be made. But you would think that if the manager was the right one, he'd have been able to bring our strangers into a far closer unit than we've seen. This says to me that they can't have been brought into buying the dressing room philosophy in the first place.
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Post by vicarious on Dec 9, 2023 23:03:39 GMT
Bae Junho and his entourage are in the Hilton up town, the poor bastards were sitting there on the sofas as the wind/rain smashed against the windows, as Hanley falls asleep for the evening. An urchin like bag head was enjoying the roach end of his zoot in the entrance, and belched out a serving of lung butter onto the glass. The agent guy, glanced over with a look of ‘how the fook has it got to this’. Albeit a very brief insight into the stardom of professional football, I would safely assume he’s lost this particular player.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 9, 2023 23:13:03 GMT
If he does still have it, it needs taking off him.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 9, 2023 23:31:47 GMT
If he went on holiday during the international break he simply should be fired And who sanctioned that ? Pathetic He was in Dubai, staying at the Royal Meridian in JBR. I saw him in the restaurant there on the Friday evening & other Stoke lads had seen him earlier in the week.
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Post by Goonie on Dec 9, 2023 23:42:51 GMT
Dressing room?
I don't think he's got the bathroom
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 10, 2023 0:03:35 GMT
I know that the whole "he has lost the dressing room" thing is a cliché ...
... but today a lot of players just seemed to be going through the motions (at best).
No urgency. No intensity. A lack of work rate.
If these players like and respect AN then they had a funny way of showing it today.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 10, 2023 0:09:06 GMT
I got this DM from a randomer at the end of November.
No idea how true any of it is but seems to tie into what a lot of others have heard:
“ 1. Laurent looking for a loan in Jan, unhappy.
2. Wesley unhappy with game time
3. Vidigal had argument with AN during training, told AN "my goals saved you and now you don't trust me to play"
4. Gooch unhappy, went to see AN and complained "you got me here under false pretences, I moved my family here and I'm not playing"
5. Ryan Mmae had argument with AN, not sure what about, Mmae was not injured or unwell he was benched as punishement
6. Chic loan terminated after he refused to do runs in training. ”
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Post by desman2 on Dec 10, 2023 0:09:31 GMT
Im wondering if the Junior missing from the squad has something to do with things . If a player gets treated in a not so good way then players tend to turn off. Maybe not but a possibility
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 0:25:08 GMT
I am not ITK at all
But I point blank refuse to believe that junior, Wes and Hask are all injured.
Something as gone on or been said behind the scenes in my book.
Can I prove this ? No
Do I believe it is the case ? Yes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 0:28:18 GMT
Im wondering if the Junior missing from the squad has something to do with things . If a player gets treated in a not so good way then players tend to turn off. Maybe not but a possibility Good enough to play for Cameroon at 19 . But not good enough to play for a stoke side , without a proper full back on the left or the right? That's very odd. Makes no sense.
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Post by stokest5 on Dec 10, 2023 0:35:32 GMT
Bae Junho and his entourage are in the Hilton up town, the poor bastards were sitting there on the sofas as the wind/rain smashed against the windows, as Hanley falls asleep for the evening. An urchin like bag head was enjoying the roach end of his zoot in the entrance, and belched out a serving of lung butter onto the glass. The agent guy, glanced over with a look of ‘how the fook has it got to this’. Albeit a very brief insight into the stardom of professional football, I would safely assume he’s lost this particular player. Going by his social media he lives in Manchester.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 10, 2023 1:38:35 GMT
Who are the players of any note in the dressing room? Beyond Bae Jun Ho, Pearson and Burger I’m struggling. As for the goalkeeping situation don’t even go there, it fuckin disgraceful.
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Post by spiderpuss on Dec 10, 2023 1:41:10 GMT
Who are the players of any note in the dressing room? Beyond Bae Jun Ho, Pearson and Burger I’m struggling. As for the goalkeeping situation don’t even go there, it fuckin disgraceful. I wouldn't even say those 3 are pulling up any trees, they are simply doing just about the basics. Which is probably enough for them to be mentioned in dispatches. As for the so-called captain, don't get me started.
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