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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Oct 28, 2023 8:12:03 GMT
He makes a mean chicken casserole. It’s the best argument yet. He should be played but he won’t be and any of us look closer to getting a game. It’s just very strange. On what logical basis, should Frank Fielding be 'getting played'?? He's 3rd choice here for a reason. He's not somewhere else, as 1st choice, for the same reason. Yeah, yeah, I get you're the Oatcake's official (maybe paid, it would explain a lot 🙄) clickbait generator, and I've fallen into the trap. Jesus Christ, it's painful at times.
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Post by mrnovember on Oct 28, 2023 8:46:07 GMT
I've got a third pair of trainers that I never wear. Not even for putting the bins out. They just sort of sit there under the stairs, all unworn next to the hoover. I might wear them one day, but probably not. They're no harm though. Except perhaps to my irrationally neat Mrs who seems to think that throwing them out would give us a third bedroom or something.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 8:54:07 GMT
No one has actually given a valid answer though. Why hasn’t he been given a shot? The valid answer is above, you chose to ignore it. He’s the keeper used for training drills with the rest of the team when the keepers are working on specific skills/need to stay out of the firing line. It’s common practice that teams will have a 3rd choice that never gets a game. The 2nd choice keeper is naturally your choice when 1st is injured. Because then why is he still here? Championship clubs don’t tend to have an experienced third choice keeper. It’s a PL thing. If he’s a glorified cone then use the u21 keeper. And tbh I think he should be 2nd choice.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 8:55:36 GMT
It’s the best argument yet. He should be played but he won’t be and any of us look closer to getting a game. It’s just very strange. On what logical basis, should Frank Fielding be 'getting played'?? He's 3rd choice here for a reason. He's not somewhere else, as 1st choice, for the same reason. Yeah, yeah, I get you're the Oatcake's official (maybe paid, it would explain a lot 🙄) clickbait generator, and I've fallen into the trap. Jesus Christ, it's painful at times. What reason? How do we know? We haven’t seen him play and we’re trusting the judgement of a bloke a lot of us want sacked and another bloke that said what he did about Bonham yesterday. And what are you on about? 🤣
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Post by mrnovember on Oct 28, 2023 8:56:45 GMT
The valid answer is above, you chose to ignore it. He’s the keeper used for training drills with the rest of the team when the keepers are working on specific skills/need to stay out of the firing line. It’s common practice that teams will have a 3rd choice that never gets a game. The 2nd choice keeper is naturally your choice when 1st is injured. Because then why is he still here? Championship clubs don’t tend to have an experienced third choice keeper. It’s a PL thing. If he’s a glorified cone then use the u21 keeper. And tbh I think he should be 2nd choice. Wouldn't want to emulate those PL clubs would we.
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Post by jokker on Oct 28, 2023 8:57:07 GMT
When goalies get to Fielding's age, they have a lot of experience regardless of how many games they actually starred in. They can sit on the bench or even in the stands and they become quasi gk coaches regardless of whether the've done any courses or the club has a specialisedd gk coach or not. They know the other goalies intimately (now don't get me wrong) and can spot weaknessess and can recommend little things to the first choice that can be useful. It's a common practice. Even when Sorro had become our 3rd choice Pulis wouldn't let him leave, because he knew how good he was, or should I say also was, in this respect.
Of course it's very unlikely that Fielding gets to play, but if he does, then he knows all that automatisms of the Stoke defence.
Not everyone in our defence does, though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 8:57:10 GMT
I've got a third pair of trainers that I never wear. Not even for putting the bins out. They just sort of sit there under the stairs, all unworn next to the hoover. I might wear them one day, but probably not. They're no harm though. Except perhaps to my irrationally neat Mrs who seems to think that throwing them out would give us a third bedroom or something. But I bet the second pair are still usable and don’t have their sole barely sticking to the rest of the shoe. Which is what Bonham is in your shoe world.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 8:57:53 GMT
Because then why is he still here? Championship clubs don’t tend to have an experienced third choice keeper. It’s a PL thing. If he’s a glorified cone then use the u21 keeper. And tbh I think he should be 2nd choice. Wouldn't want to emulate those PL clubs would we. Having a third choice goalie we don’t need when the 2nd choice is toilet is something I wouldn’t be arsed about no.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 8:58:59 GMT
When goalies get to Fielding's age, they have a lot of experience regardless of how many games they actually starred in. They can sit on the bench or even in the stands and they become quasi gk coaches regardless of whether the've done any courses or the club has a specialisedd gk coach or not. They know the other goalies intimately (now don't get me wrong) and can spot weaknessess and can recommend little things to the first choice that can be useful. It's a common practice. Even when Sorro had become our 3rd choice Pulis wouldn't let him leave, because he knew how good he was, or should I say also was, in this respect. For PL clubs. We are a club who need a back up goalie. Why not give him a go?
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Post by jokker on Oct 28, 2023 9:00:24 GMT
When goalies get to Fielding's age, they have a lot of experience regardless of how many games they actually starred in. They can sit on the bench or even in the stands and they become quasi gk coaches regardless of whether the've done any courses or the club has a specialisedd gk coach or not. They know the other goalies intimately (now don't get me wrong) and can spot weaknessess and can recommend little things to the first choice that can be useful. It's a common practice. Even when Sorro had become our 3rd choice Pulis wouldn't let him leave, because he knew how good he was, or should I say also was, in this respect. For PL clubs. We are a club who need a back up goalie. Why not give him a go? We might have to sooner than expected.
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Post by mrnovember on Oct 28, 2023 9:00:39 GMT
Wouldn't want to emulate those PL clubs would we. Having a third choice goalie we don’t need when the 2nd choice is toilet is something I wouldn’t be arsed about no. I didn't realise the team had been announced. You don't half choose some weird hills.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 9:01:46 GMT
Having a third choice goalie we don’t need when the 2nd choice is toilet is something I wouldn’t be arsed about no. I didn't realise the team had been announced. You don't half choose some weird hills. So you think Fielding has a chance of playing today? You have more chance of playing.
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Post by mrnovember on Oct 28, 2023 9:03:24 GMT
I didn't realise the team had been announced. You don't half choose some weird hills. So you think Fielding has a chance of playing today? You have more chance of playing. I'm not in the squad mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 9:04:00 GMT
So you think Fielding has a chance of playing today? You have more chance of playing. I'm not in the squad mate. And still have more of a chance. You’re just proving my point 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 9:09:21 GMT
What’s the point of him? Seriously? If he’s not good enough to be considered better than Bonham, why is he even here? He's a third choice (or was) training keeper who is experienced enough to play in an absolute emergency. I would love to know the standard of other Champo teams third choices.
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Post by caine on Oct 28, 2023 9:14:57 GMT
He’s doing his coaching badges and has been coaching the younger keepers. Quite mad how he’s never had a cup game since he’s been here really to see what he’s like.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 9:21:04 GMT
What’s the point of him? Seriously? If he’s not good enough to be considered better than Bonham, why is he even here? He's a third choice (or was) training keeper who is experienced enough to play in an absolute emergency. I would love to know the standard of other Champo teams third choices. Training keeper. I’ve never heard anything like it at this level. And if he’s not better than Bonham why the hell would you want him imparting that knowledge on anyone? There’s just no logic to how we’ve used him and why he’s still here.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 28, 2023 9:25:57 GMT
He's probably a good egg, gets his round in unlike bayern!
bayern's dream job is being third choice goalie and never playing, just jealousy talking! 😉
He does have a point though, our goalkeeping options after Bonham are atrocious! Get the lad from Solihull back if we're not bringing anyone else in!
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Oct 28, 2023 9:28:21 GMT
Most clubs have a 3rd choice keeper who doesn’t play and is basically in the squad for training. Look at Scott Carson at Man City.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 9:34:05 GMT
He's probably a good egg, gets his round in unlike bayern! bayern's dream job is being third choice goalie and never playing, just jealousy talking! 😉 He does have a point though, our goalkeeping options after Bonham are atrocious! Get the lad from Solihull back if we're not bringing anyone else in! I think we can only recall him if one of Bonham/Fielding gets injured as per Travers. Need to be down to one fit senior keeper I think for an emergency recall.
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Post by somersetpotter on Oct 28, 2023 9:35:40 GMT
The valid answer is above, you chose to ignore it. He’s the keeper used for training drills with the rest of the team when the keepers are working on specific skills/need to stay out of the firing line. It’s common practice that teams will have a 3rd choice that never gets a game. The 2nd choice keeper is naturally your choice when 1st is injured. Because then why is he still here? Championship clubs don’t tend to have an experienced third choice keeper. It’s a PL thing. If he’s a glorified cone then use the u21 keeper. And tbh I think he should be 2nd choice. You really don’t get it do you. The u21 goalie is there to develop not to be a cone in training.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 9:45:44 GMT
I can't imagine what it must be like living in a world where I give a shit about this kind of topic
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 28, 2023 10:09:58 GMT
I was watching him before the game on Wednesday when the team were doing shooting still before they went in before kick off and he saved 2 out of about 20 that I watched
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 28, 2023 11:48:37 GMT
Without him who goes on the bench if either keeper is injured? The u21 goalie. What would it matter, he never gets used anyway. And that’s my point. Imagine if we got to a stage where the u21 'keeper ended up being used and how you'd be apoplectic towards the club.
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 28, 2023 11:54:09 GMT
The valid answer is above, you chose to ignore it. He’s the keeper used for training drills with the rest of the team when the keepers are working on specific skills/need to stay out of the firing line. It’s common practice that teams will have a 3rd choice that never gets a game. The 2nd choice keeper is naturally your choice when 1st is injured. Because then why is he still here? Championship clubs don’t tend to have an experienced third choice keeper. It’s a PL thing. If he’s a glorified cone then use the u21 keeper. And tbh I think he should be 2nd choice. Championship clubs with experienced choices and more than two senior keepers: Leicester: Smithies Southampton: McCarthy Leeds: Darrow Hull: Allsop Boro: Jones Coventry: Moore Millwall: Biawolski QPR: Walsh Huddersfield: Maxwell Stoke: Fielding So, about 42% of the league do, including the 3 that have come down (and not the 3 that have come up). Seems possible that on any given season, about half of the league will have a third choice that isn’t an U21. Fielding himself has been a third choice at Bristol City and Millwall before coming here.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 28, 2023 13:09:07 GMT
Bonham,Fielding,Blondie,are not good enough,1 decent keeper at the club out of 4 just isn't good enough.
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Post by a on Oct 28, 2023 17:35:08 GMT
What’s the point of him? Seriously? If he’s not good enough to be considered better than Bonham, why is he even here? What a weird take. Either it’s satire or you don’t understand football.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Oct 28, 2023 18:10:59 GMT
Will you not admit that Bonham's performance today, made you like the toxic arsehole that you are? Your hateful, agenda driven drivel aimed towards stoke players is something I both completely baffling from someone who claims to be a fan. I'm so glad hes made you look like a complete arse. What’s the point of him? Seriously? If he’s not good enough to be considered better than Bonham, why is he even here?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2023 14:33:00 GMT
I ask again.
What’s the point in him?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 9, 2023 14:35:42 GMT
I ask again. What’s the point in him? He tells funny jokes apparently.
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