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Post by WorkingclassHero on Oct 7, 2023 17:44:38 GMT
Sorry lads
I see no green shoots at all. We are in a mess.
We have punted 18 signings, hit with 3 seemingly
Junior,vidi and maybe Bae
Awful awful hit rate. We look dead and buried to me. We rolled the dice and ended up going straight to jail.
Fml
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Post by milton58 on Oct 7, 2023 17:49:41 GMT
Sorry lads I see no green shoots at all. We are in a mess. We have punted 18 signings, hit with 3 seemingly Junior,vidi and maybe Bae Awful awful hit rate. We look dead and buried to me. We rolled the dice and ended up going straight to jail. Fml next
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Post by bjarnig on Oct 7, 2023 17:59:09 GMT
There's a long way to go. Just need to get players back fit and beef up the defence in January and hope it's enough. Hopefully we'll avoid the drop. I still think we're good enough to get 17th to 21st.
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Post by march4 on Oct 7, 2023 18:00:07 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured.
How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Oct 7, 2023 18:05:26 GMT
I don't like and have never liked AN, but to be fair with so many players out you can't really say we have seen the new players yet. Hopefully second half of the season will be better, but I wouldn't be upset if he got sacked tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 18:07:31 GMT
Sorry lads I see no green shoots at all. We are in a mess. We have punted 18 signings, hit with 3 seemingly Junior,vidi and maybe Bae Awful awful hit rate. We look dead and buried to me. We rolled the dice and ended up going straight to jail. Fml This group of players will look completely different under a better coach. The first thing a new man needs to do is drop Laurent and get Pearson and Burger playing as a double pivot with a genuine 10 (Bae or Haksabanovic) playing infront of them and go from there. Obviously we are very short at striker and CB but that can be rectified in January hopefully. If we can keep our heads above water until then I think we'll be ok
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 7, 2023 18:10:35 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. It's not so much that we're not beating them. It's that we're not beating Huddersfield, Millwall, Norwich, Hull and Preston.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 7, 2023 18:12:46 GMT
I really didn't think this season would be about staying up, but this is exactly where we are!
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Post by a on Oct 7, 2023 18:14:52 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. I was going to say, this isn’t the metric I’d use 😂 It is bad but partly for the reasons you correctly mentioned
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 7, 2023 18:16:05 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. Yes because we were doing that with a fit squad previously and was only today we were beaten, not in over half of our games in the last 12 months
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 18:16:57 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. We're not 21st though, because we lost today at Leicester, are we? I think there's a bigger picture.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 7, 2023 18:19:14 GMT
We'll be fine
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 7, 2023 18:23:08 GMT
Not judging anything off today's result but the way we left both ends of the pitch, particularly at the back, woefully short at the end of the window has lead to this.
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Post by wonderwall on Oct 7, 2023 18:26:09 GMT
21st after 10 games.
That says it all.
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Post by wonderwall on Oct 7, 2023 18:27:45 GMT
Dont know what all the fuss is about 😉
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 7, 2023 18:31:55 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. Do you think TP would have started a season with 3 CB's, 1 (33 year old) LB? Ask yourself that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 7, 2023 18:32:24 GMT
Sorry lads I see no green shoots at all. We are in a mess. We have punted 18 signings, hit with 3 seemingly Junior,vidi and maybe Bae Awful awful hit rate. We look dead and buried to me. We rolled the dice and ended up going straight to jail. Fml I think there's been more than three, Burger has shown some good glimpses, Hak looks like he could be a good signing and Gooch has been useful and Pearson solid, whatever you think of the manager it's a bit early to be writing the players off (for the most part).
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 7, 2023 18:33:08 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. Do you think TP would have started a season with 3 CB's, 1 (33 year old) LB? Ask yourself that. Would he have signed Vidigal or Bae?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 7, 2023 18:33:25 GMT
21st after 10 games. That says it all. Worse, 11 games.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 7, 2023 18:34:13 GMT
Do you think TP would have started a season with 3 CB's, 1 (33 year old) LB? Ask yourself that. Would he have signed Vidigal or Bae? What's that got to do with having a viable defence?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 7, 2023 18:34:56 GMT
Would he have signed Vidigal or Bae? What's that got to do with having a viable defence? What's TP got to do with anything.....
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 7, 2023 18:36:33 GMT
What's that got to do with having a viable defence? What's TP got to do with anything..... He's Marchy's yardstick who I was replying to.
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Post by butlerstbob on Oct 7, 2023 18:39:01 GMT
Dress it up however you wish! Bring out which ever excuse you like! 4th from bottom tells the true story! Same as last season blah blah blah!
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Oct 7, 2023 18:44:43 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. But we had done the difficult part!! We had got to 70 minutes and were still in the game! THAT’S when we needed Neil to show some initiative, some ambition, and bring on Vidigal or Haks or even Gayle! Don’t just accept a 1-0 defeat, make a positive change and let’s see what happens! If they then score a second goal, so be it, but at least we would’ve had a go, ffs!!
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 7, 2023 18:48:27 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. I do not think that fans are judging AN based on today, they are basing it on the last twelve months of his reign. He has the lowest win percentage of any manager since relegation and has lost over half of his games in charge here. Injuries happen to every team. However, our summer recruitment left us extremely light in defence and attack. We have three senior centre backs on the books and one left back. The defensive injury crisis is of our own making sprinkled with some bad luck.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 7, 2023 18:50:44 GMT
What's TP got to do with anything..... He's Marchy's yardstick who I was replying to. Marchy's yardstick is also his dislike for Michael Carrick - who's Middlesbrough side have now climbed above us into mid-table despite a extremely poor start to their season.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 7, 2023 19:37:59 GMT
Our entire starting defence and starting attack are out injured. How outrageous that we are not beating a team now 10 points clear of the play off places having won all but one game this season. It's not so much that we're not beating them. It's that we're not beating Huddersfield, Millwall, Norwich, Hull and Preston. The funny thing was the defence played better than usual today, Laurent had his best game, the other three all did well, it's centre midfield where we struggle to make anything happen Johnson has been woeful as an attacking midfielder, agree re forwards, it's a lot to expect from Lowe but he needs to learn and make more of chances like today. Leris is settling in OK and hopefully Vidigal will be fit for Sunderland but overall its not any better,possibly slightly worse than last season.
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Post by Gods on Oct 7, 2023 19:45:34 GMT
I really don't know what came over AN endorsing US Jared and Tricky's drug addled summer trolley dash.
I thought the whole point of AN was that you got pragmatism and an old fashioned work ethic. You put up with him being a miserable, punchy bugger because these are good attributes to have.
It seems to me that somehow he has allowed himself to be seduced by Jared's dark good looks and Tricky's middle management psycho-babble.
Strangest damn thing I've ever seen.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 7, 2023 19:52:16 GMT
We’re definitely in trouble.
And it’s more concerning because if, as seems increasingly likely, Neil gets the boot…..what the fuck do we do with the staff and players he’s introduced. Which is approx 90% of our staff.
All the signs of relegation unfortunately.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Oct 7, 2023 19:56:07 GMT
We’re definitely in trouble. And it’s more concerning because if, as seems increasingly likely, Neil gets the boot…..what the fuck do we do with the staff and players he’s introduced. Which is approx 90% of our staff. All the signs of relegation unfortunately. Think this is nail on head. We have created a huge task for any incoming manager. We need him to somehow make this work or we are down.
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