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Post by andycooke96 on Oct 9, 2023 1:58:17 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us.
Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally)
Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career)
Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH)
Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 9, 2023 6:48:14 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us. Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally) Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career) Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH) Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me) Think I'd have Dean Smith over anyone there bar Eustace.
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Post by Gods on Oct 9, 2023 7:03:03 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us. Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally) Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career) Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH) Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me) Were Dublin/Martin not the architects of the failing summer rebuild? I suppose in the end it comes down to whether you subscribe to the view that the rebuild was a success but AN, either through incompetence or bad luck or both, can't get a tune out of squad. Or do you, as I do, question whether we bought and sold wisely full stop.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 9, 2023 7:10:15 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us. Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally) Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career) Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH) Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me) Were Dublin/Martin not the architects of the failing summer rebuild? I suppose in the end it comes down to whether you form the view the rebuild was a success but AN, either through incompetence or bad luck or both, can't get a tune out of squad. Or do you, as I do, question whether we bought and sold wisely. I think the rebuild overall was fine. We clearly needed another CB though and letting go of Taylor was stupid. But that particular decision is on the manager. Taylor is better than was kept and AN clearly didn’t rate him. The new attacking players I like the look of, they just need to be played in their correct positions. Johnson as predicted is a pointless signing. Making Laurent captain is the worst decision at this club since maybe appointing Paul Lambert.
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Post by baconburger on Oct 9, 2023 7:19:28 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us. Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally) Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career) Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH) Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me) Were Dublin/Martin not the architects of the failing summer rebuild? I suppose in the end it comes down to whether you form the view the rebuild was a success but AN, either through incompetence or bad luck or both, can't get a tune out of squad. Or do you, as I do, question whether we bought and sold wisely. I don’t see how the summer rebuild could be seen as a failure. The players we bought in especially the ones we payed money for mainly look like decent business. I could see at least a couple going on for large profit and don’t see any major losses. That it’s not translating into outcomes and league position is unfortunate, I think we were a couple of sizeable deals away from something that would lead to more expectation than blind hope. I really don’t see why the new approach should be binned off without being given a proper chance to succeed. After all it’s predecessor had plenty of time to prove a failure (old and domestic). I don’t see the approach being tied to the fate of the manager it’s not even something you’d associate with him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 9, 2023 7:28:29 GMT
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Post by andycooke96 on Oct 9, 2023 8:06:53 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us. Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally) Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career) Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH) Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me) Were Dublin/Martin not the architects of the failing summer rebuild? I suppose in the end it comes down to whether you subscribe to the view that the rebuild was a success but AN, either through incompetence or bad luck or both, can't get a tune out of squad. Or do you, as I do, question whether we bought and sold wisely full stop. I think the rebuild was a success in regards to a signing young players with resale value, given we aren’t getting into the premier league anytime soon and the board haven’t been great at the commercial side of things, it’s the only way we will continue to pass ffp, they’re all good players as well, none of them have looked out of place on the pitch imo. There are certain areas we are weak but that’s where as a manager you adapt, for example you don’t park the bus with two foot defenders. If you’re lacking a number 9 maybe you put a technical player there like haksa and BJH who can bring others into play
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 9, 2023 8:23:37 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us. Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally) Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career) Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH) Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me) Think I'd have Dean Smith over anyone there bar Eustace. He could finally be reunited with Wesley after spunking £22m on him…..
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 9, 2023 9:33:34 GMT
Think I'd have Dean Smith over anyone there bar Eustace. He could finally be reunited with Wesley after spunking £22m on him….. Indeed. Still a less horrifying prospect than Colin or that goblin Muscat being anywhere near the club.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 9, 2023 9:41:33 GMT
He could finally be reunited with Wesley after spunking £22m on him….. Indeed. Still a less horrifying prospect than Colin or that goblin Muscat being anywhere near the club. I disliked Muscat immensely as a player (who didn't?) but it would be an intriguing appointment and potential open us up to the Asian market in a similar way to Postecoglu at Celtic. I'd definitely take him over Dean Smith and Neil Warnock..............
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 9, 2023 9:45:42 GMT
Indeed. Still a less horrifying prospect than Colin or that goblin Muscat being anywhere near the club. I disliked Muscat immensely as a player (who didn't?) but it would be an intriguing appointment and potential open us up to the Asian market in a similar way to Postecoglu at Celtic. I'd definitely take him over Dean Smith and Neil Warnock.............. Totally agree Presters. Has a knowledge of other leagues as you say.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 9, 2023 9:47:39 GMT
Indeed. Still a less horrifying prospect than Colin or that goblin Muscat being anywhere near the club. I disliked Muscat immensely as a player (who didn't?) but it would be an intriguing appointment and potential open us up to the Asian market in a similar way to Postecoglu at Celtic. I'd definitely take him over Dean Smith and Neil Warnock.............. As far as I can see he’s just inherited good sides from Postecoglu where he’s been successful? Still a skill to maintaining those levels, for sure but not quite sure where the clamour for him to get jobs over here has come from?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 9, 2023 9:49:34 GMT
I disliked Muscat immensely as a player (who didn't?) but it would be an intriguing appointment and potential open us up to the Asian market in a similar way to Postecoglu at Celtic. I'd definitely take him over Dean Smith and Neil Warnock.............. As far as I can see he’s just inherited good sides from Postecoglu where he’s been successful? Still a skill to maintaining those levels, for sure but not quite sure where the clamour for him to get jobs over here has come from? Probably due to the amount of dross available domestically to be frank...................
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 9, 2023 9:50:20 GMT
And John Eustace is now officially available.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 9:56:30 GMT
My hope is that if Neil is sacked, Dublin/Martin have a list of replacements who suit our squad, and it would be nice for us to look abroad for a change. In terms of British based managers I can think of 4 that would suit us. Eustace, experience in the league, doing well with Birmingham, has a bit of passion and personality about him (I know this doesn’t count for much but it would be nice to see a manager getting the crowd going occasionally) Muscat (not British but for reasons already mentioned think he’d be a good fit, he also wouldn’t encounter some of the snobbishness that he might get at other clubs due to his playing career) Warnock (has generally played in a way that suits the players at his disposal, if you look at how he got taarabt playing at qpr that would excite me with players like haksa and BJH) Beale ( did well at qpr, definitely questions over his conduct over leaving, will have been humbled by his Rangers experience, he’d be bottom of the list for me) Think I'd have Dean Smith over anyone there bar Eustace. A mate of mine rated Muscat, said he’s the closest to Ange Postecoglou we’d manage.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 9, 2023 9:56:52 GMT
Wonder if SJE is a tasty enough morsel, available without compo, to give them a decision to make?
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Post by thornestein on Oct 9, 2023 9:57:51 GMT
Wonder if SJE is a tasty enough morsel, available without compo, to give them a decision to make? fingers crossed
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Post by andycooke96 on Oct 9, 2023 10:19:06 GMT
He could finally be reunited with Wesley after spunking £22m on him….. Indeed. Still a less horrifying prospect than Colin or that goblin Muscat being anywhere near the club. Does it matter what muscat was like as a player? Completely different leagues but he’s won 3 league titles playing good football. You don’t do that if your players can’t stand you
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 9, 2023 10:31:24 GMT
Indeed. Still a less horrifying prospect than Colin or that goblin Muscat being anywhere near the club. Does it matter what muscat was like as a player? Completely different leagues but he’s won 3 league titles playing good football. You don’t do that if your players can’t stand you He's inherited good sides from Postecoglu and when he got a gig in Europe he lasted six months. Sounds an awful lot to me like he's a beneficiary of the current wave of Ange-mania.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 9, 2023 10:33:00 GMT
I disliked Muscat immensely as a player (who didn't?) but it would be an intriguing appointment and potential open us up to the Asian market in a similar way to Postecoglu at Celtic. I'd definitely take him over Dean Smith and Neil Warnock.............. As far as I can see he’s just inherited good sides from Postecoglu where he’s been successful? Still a skill to maintaining those levels, for sure but not quite sure where the clamour for him to get jobs over here has come from? Not sure us a clamour for him but looks a realistic and decent possibility. See your point though but would prefer him over a few names being mentioned
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 9, 2023 11:26:10 GMT
Mr Eustace has just thrown his hat into a ring yet to be officially open
Leeds & Sunderland losses & its open season at The 365 again
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 9, 2023 11:31:06 GMT
I’m impressed you all know who Muscat manages 🤣
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 9, 2023 11:56:44 GMT
I’m impressed you all know who Muscat manages 🤣 You thought he was Deputy Dawg's sidekick
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 11:59:20 GMT
Eustace would turn the club around. I can feel it. He's on the up, he'll be angry and have a point to prove. We need that edge.
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 9, 2023 12:17:13 GMT
The last time we took a manager from Brum it went pretty well.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 9, 2023 12:47:52 GMT
Were Dublin/Martin not the architects of the failing summer rebuild? I suppose in the end it comes down to whether you form the view the rebuild was a success but AN, either through incompetence or bad luck or both, can't get a tune out of squad. Or do you, as I do, question whether we bought and sold wisely. I think the rebuild overall was fine. We clearly needed another CB though and letting go of Taylor was stupid. But that particular decision is on the manager. Taylor is better than was kept and AN clearly didn’t rate him. The new attacking players I like the look of, they just need to be played in their correct positions. Johnson as predicted is a pointless signing. Making Laurent captain is the worst decision at this club since maybe appointing Paul Lambert. I agree with most of that. He certainly seems to have lost his way with choice of tactics v players signed. He has my sympathies with all the injuries, but that's part of managing, coping with every eventuality. Personaly I think 3 CBs is flawed as a system unless you have the talented CBs (can turn, have speed, and ball skills) and WBs to make it work. WB role is not a compromise role ; to play WB you need to be good enough to be both a FB and a winger, and superbly fit. Laurent is talented, but his head is in the wrong place. I don't know whether that's because of the way he is being used, or "wearing in captain's armband" doesn't suit him, or just simply lost form, which happens. Unlike our last 5 managers, I think Neil has got enough talent (if fit) in the squad to make a success. If he can't pdq, then someone else should be found. A manager who can weigh up the best system to suit the players (not try and shoe horn a squad into his preferred system) and then hone it to better performances. Leicester was the first team I think we have faced this season who had better players than us, and they seemed pretty disorganised on the day. I can't believe they are top playing like that aĺl season. Other teams that have beaten us have done so because they were better teams , not individuals. As Alf Ramsay used to say, " I don't necessarily pick the best players, I pick the best team".
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Oct 9, 2023 12:52:29 GMT
Eustace fav for Rangers job so cant see him being here (we wont sack Neill till December anyway!!!)
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 9, 2023 14:19:39 GMT
Golden opportunity with Eustace - the exact type of manager we’d normally be buying out of their contract to get here.
Not convinced Rangers will want him after their Beale experience either.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 9, 2023 14:58:17 GMT
Eustace would tick a lot of boxes, especially no compensation, I wonder if it has got them thinking, probably not but who knows?.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 9, 2023 15:03:04 GMT
Rangers have been linked with Muscat
Youd think his appointment woukd go down better with their fans than Eustace
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