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Post by Gods on Sept 16, 2023 22:24:22 GMT
Only 7 teams between us and the Vale right now.
If that doesn't make you nervous it should do.
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2023 22:28:11 GMT
0-2 0-1 0-2 0-1, what's your point? They've won 5 out of 6, when's the last time we did anything like that? It’s weird isn’t it?
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Sept 16, 2023 22:29:24 GMT
Only 7 teams between us and the Vale right now. If that doesn't make you nervous it should do. But 1 division ......at the moment
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Post by Sfance on Sept 16, 2023 22:35:47 GMT
I’d take a nice roof collapse in exchange for being 2nd from top with a game in hand.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 16, 2023 23:12:03 GMT
0-2 0-1 0-2 0-1, what's your point? They've won 5 out of 6, when's the last time we did anything like that? It’s weird isn’t it? Not as weird as you. I see Michael Carrick is your latest hang up
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 17, 2023 0:03:47 GMT
Only 7 teams between us and the Vale right now. If that doesn't make you nervous it should do. I get what you are saying but they are a league behind us still mate and it's a long season. Fear not.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 17, 2023 0:07:59 GMT
So we've lost a few games and some of our fans are striving to be league one Port Vale now then. Is that with or without the ground that's falling apart? I despair at some of the shit I read on here sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 9:17:30 GMT
So we've lost a few games and some of our fans are striving to be league one Port Vale now then. Is that with or without the ground that's falling apart? I despair at some of the shit I read on here sometimes. You need to read the thread again. Literally, not one person has done what you have said they have.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2023 9:23:21 GMT
So we've lost a few games and some of our fans are striving to be league one Port Vale now then. Is that with or without the ground that's falling apart? I despair at some of the shit I read on here sometimes. You need to read the thread again. Literally, not one person has done what you have said they have. I have read the thread which was about the toilet collapse at Port Vale. Some of our fans then turn it into wishing our toilet collapsed so we could go on a run like Vale have. In a thread about how shit a rivals ground is only we could turn it into something to beat our own clubs form with. Hope that answers it for you mate.
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 18, 2023 10:01:24 GMT
So we've lost a few games and some of our fans are striving to be league one Port Vale now then. Is that with or without the ground that's falling apart? I despair at some of the shit I read on here sometimes. I'd certainly laugh if Vale's ground didn't come up to whatever the minimum Championship standard is, and they couldn't be promoted!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 18, 2023 10:06:09 GMT
Only 7 teams between us and the Vale right now. If that doesn't make you nervous it should do. I get what you are saying but they are a league behind us still mate and it's a long season. Fear not. I thought they were in League 2 to be honest How much attention I pay to them
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 18, 2023 10:07:23 GMT
So we've lost a few games and some of our fans are striving to be league one Port Vale now then. Is that with or without the ground that's falling apart? I despair at some of the shit I read on here sometimes. I'd certainly laugh if Vale's ground didn't come up to whatever the minimum Championship standard is, and they couldn't be promoted! I don't think it would meet the requirements to be honest. It is very questionable whether it is safe enough for any league considering it is falling apart. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 10:38:47 GMT
So we've lost a few games and some of our fans are striving to be league one Port Vale now then. Is that with or without the ground that's falling apart? I despair at some of the shit I read on here sometimes. I'd certainly laugh if Vale's ground didn't come up to whatever the minimum Championship standard is, and they couldn't be promoted! If Luton's stadium could, then Vale's will absolutely piss it.
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 18, 2023 11:31:00 GMT
Vale's additional problem though is that their stands are probably collapsing under the sheer weight of the fans expectations!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 18, 2023 12:04:01 GMT
I'd certainly laugh if Vale's ground didn't come up to whatever the minimum Championship standard is, and they couldn't be promoted! If Luton's stadium could, then Vale's will absolutely piss it. Is there a requirement for the Championship? Honestly no idea. Would it be different than Happy Shopper Beans League One or what whatever it's is?
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 18, 2023 12:32:11 GMT
If Luton's stadium could, then Vale's will absolutely piss it. Is there a requirement for the Championship? Honestly no idea. Would it be different than Happy Shopper Beans League One or what whatever it's is? I'm not actually sure but I've always believed that League grounds have to fulfill certain safety, access and facility criteria, not least for insurance purposes or to get a ground safety certificate. I'm fairly certain though that in the past there have been major issues regarding ground suitability, and the ability of Clubs aiming for promotion to the League from non league, to qualify if their ground is judged to be unsuitable. At present there are definite rules on ground capacity, and The Football League requires that the ground occupied by a club promoted to League 2 must have a certified capacity of at least 4,000 (with the ability to be increased to 5,000). It follows that if there are rules and restrictions in operation for the lower leagues, then standards expected must be stricter as you move up the ladder. Edit: The thought occured to me that some older grounds are so antiquated and decrepit that the authorities have no hope for their improvement, and they hold some sort of exemption. The issues would be addressed with the assumption that most Clubs aspire to owning a new problem free ground that is built for purpose. It is rather like a vintage or classic car that is old, and because of this is exempt from some Tax and MOT requirements.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 18, 2023 12:43:08 GMT
Is there a requirement for the Championship? Honestly no idea. Would it be different than Happy Shopper Beans League One or what whatever it's is? I'm not actually sure but I've always believed that League grounds have to fulfill certain safety, access and facility criteria, not least for insurance purposes or to get a ground safety certificate. I'm fairly certain though that in the past there have been major issues regarding ground suitability, and the ability of Clubs aiming for promotion to the League from non league, to qualify if their ground is judged to be unsuitable. At present there are definite rules on ground capacity, and The Football League requires that the ground occupied by a club promoted to League 2 must have a certified capacity of at least 4,000 (with the ability to be increased to 5,000). It follows that if there are rules and restrictions in operation for the lower leagues, then standards expected must be stricter as you move up the ladder. Edit: The thought occured to me that some older grounds are so antiquated and decrepit that the authorities have no hope for their improvement, and they hold some sort of exemption. The issues would be addressed with the assumption that most Clubs aspire to owning a new problem free ground that is built for purpose. It is rather like a vintage or classic car that is old, and because of this is exempt from some Tax and MOT requirements. I know they have to be all seated and have segregation but wouldn't all EFL grounds fall under the same rules perhaps? No idea on that one I imagine toilets that don't belong in Bedrock would not help mind you
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Post by senojbor on Sept 18, 2023 13:27:30 GMT
Some people need to grow up
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 18, 2023 14:09:57 GMT
I’d take a nice roof collapse in exchange for being 2nd from top with a game in hand. I'd take the whole ground collapsing into the mine shaft and rebuilding somewhere else. League position would be irrelevant to me.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 18, 2023 14:13:16 GMT
Is there a requirement for the Championship? Honestly no idea. Would it be different than Happy Shopper Beans League One or what whatever it's is? I'm not actually sure but I've always believed that League grounds have to fulfill certain safety, access and facility criteria, not least for insurance purposes or to get a ground safety certificate. I'm fairly certain though that in the past there have been major issues regarding ground suitability, and the ability of Clubs aiming for promotion to the League from non league, to qualify if their ground is judged to be unsuitable. At present there are definite rules on ground capacity, and The Football League requires that the ground occupied by a club promoted to League 2 must have a certified capacity of at least 4,000 (with the ability to be increased to 5,000). It follows that if there are rules and restrictions in operation for the lower leagues, then standards expected must be stricter as you move up the ladder. Edit: The thought occured to me that some older grounds are so antiquated and decrepit that the authorities have no hope for their improvement, and they hold some sort of exemption. The issues would be addressed with the assumption that most Clubs aspire to owning a new problem free ground that is built for purpose. It is rather like a vintage or classic car that is old, and because of this is exempt from some Tax and MOT requirements. Go to Barnsley's West Stand Bogs to see how stringent the rules are around toilet standards
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 18, 2023 16:04:18 GMT
The toilets at the Vic were hideous and smelt like a Wetherspoons
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 18, 2023 17:26:24 GMT
Some people need to grow up The people you're thinking of are 'children'. Note this down - it may come in handy during a pub quiz one day.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 18, 2023 17:54:00 GMT
Fair do’s
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Post by thevoid on Sept 19, 2023 7:45:16 GMT
Well at least we can afford to travel to the Canaries rather than being forced to go to Blackpool again
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Post by march4 on Sept 19, 2023 9:11:02 GMT
Not as weird as you. I see Michael Carrick is your latest hang up Michael Carrick - the darling of so many posters last season. Now we are seeing him out of his depth.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 19, 2023 9:32:12 GMT
Well at least we can afford to travel to the Canaries rather than being forced to go to Blackpool again So could Vale mate. They would just take a loan from the council and never pay them back like they normally do.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 19, 2023 9:41:12 GMT
Not as weird as you. I see Michael Carrick is your latest hang up Michael Carrick - the darling of so many posters last season. Now we are seeing him out of his depth. Perhaps they've made some new signings that need to gel?
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 19, 2023 12:04:44 GMT
Well that is the "in vogue" excuse for many team Managers currently!
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 19, 2023 15:51:53 GMT
I'm not actually sure but I've always believed that League grounds have to fulfill certain safety, access and facility criteria, not least for insurance purposes or to get a ground safety certificate. I'm fairly certain though that in the past there have been major issues regarding ground suitability, and the ability of Clubs aiming for promotion to the League from non league, to qualify if their ground is judged to be unsuitable. At present there are definite rules on ground capacity, and The Football League requires that the ground occupied by a club promoted to League 2 must have a certified capacity of at least 4,000 (with the ability to be increased to 5,000). It follows that if there are rules and restrictions in operation for the lower leagues, then standards expected must be stricter as you move up the ladder. Edit: The thought occured to me that some older grounds are so antiquated and decrepit that the authorities have no hope for their improvement, and they hold some sort of exemption. The issues would be addressed with the assumption that most Clubs aspire to owning a new problem free ground that is built for purpose. It is rather like a vintage or classic car that is old, and because of this is exempt from some Tax and MOT requirements. Go to Barnsley's West Stand Bogs to see how stringent the rules are around toilet standards I can't remember whether it was Halifax town away or Chesterfield that had outdoor bogs just like this? I do quite like the rustic look but that's a bit too far 😅 Edit. Could well have been Wigan's old dump of a ground maybe...
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 19, 2023 16:35:27 GMT
[quote author=" march4 [/quote]Michael Carrick - the darling of so many posters last season. Now we are seeing him out of his depth. [/quote] He's averaged 1.7 points per game at Boro and won nearly half the games he's managed. Awful start though after losing a massive player for them
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