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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2024 20:06:05 GMT
The fact that Ennis has played a single minute ahead of Campbell is a travesty. On a day of lots of positives the cameos from Ennis and Junior were the stuff of legend…for all the wrong reasons Campbell had an injury he couldn't stay on Junior made a good chance (for Ennis) did he not? Please explain what Junior did wrong
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2024 20:06:22 GMT
The fact that Ennis has played a single minute ahead of Campbell is a travesty. On a day of lots of positives the cameos from Ennis and Junior were the stuff of legend…for all the wrong reasons Campbell had an injury he couldn't stay on Junior made a good chance (for Ennis) did he not? Please explain what Junior did wrong
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 27, 2024 20:11:25 GMT
I agree Ennis was beyond awful, but Junior was fine.
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 27, 2024 20:15:29 GMT
A 2 goal a season striker isn't much use to us, hope he goes to be honest. he has played less than half a season in games. OK 2 goals in half a season striker , not much use to us.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 27, 2024 20:16:12 GMT
It was a decent finish against a side that had literally nothing to play for today but Jesus Christ. Are fans really that that short sighted and gullible? Can they not see the pattern? TC plays at an acceptable level when he can be arsed, for example when there is a contract on offer. He managed to temporarily wake from his slumber today and some would actually reward him a with an improved 2 year contract ! Look at his performances over his time here. Stoke are capable of so much better. We need to be targeting 20 goal season players, not 20 goals a career players. Please Stoke, Aim Higher. Move on. There are 2 players who have scored 20 goals in this division this season. In other words, they don't grow on trees. Getting a 20 goal a season striker is probably not going to happen. Agreed. We really should be looking for one who can knock in 12 or 13 a year though. I don’t see Campbell managing that either.
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 27, 2024 20:16:51 GMT
It was a decent finish against a side that had literally nothing to play for today but Jesus Christ. Are fans really that that short sighted and gullible? Can they not see the pattern? TC plays at an acceptable level when he can be arsed, for example when there is a contract on offer. He managed to temporarily wake from his slumber today and some would actually reward him a with an improved 2 year contract ! Look at his performances over his time here. Stoke are capable of so much better. We need to be targeting 20 goal season players, not 20 goals a career players. Please Stoke, Aim Higher. Move on. Maybe Stoke fans are short sighted and gullible, but you are simply dimnwitted... There is no contract on offer for Campbell, and he doesn't want one. He wants to leave. You want a 20 goal a season striker... you think those kinds of players are going to join Stoke City just like that? I can't even remember when we had a striker who scored that amount! I can, John Ritchie 30 per season
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Apr 27, 2024 20:49:33 GMT
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Post by nonameface on Apr 27, 2024 20:49:33 GMT
Would be okay to keep him as Campbell is very talented, but having watched Laurents match debrief he gave me the impression Campbell was off when saying "he will forever be my friend" or words to that effect. Often a phrase used when you are about to not see someone for a while.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 27, 2024 20:54:59 GMT
The fact that Ennis has played a single minute ahead of Campbell is a travesty. On a day of lots of positives the cameos from Ennis and Junior were the stuff of legend…for all the wrong reasons Campbell had an injury he couldn't stay on Junior made a good chance (for Ennis) did he not? Please explain what Junior did wrong He did yes. Ennis should have buried it. That aside he looked totally lost, didn’t offer much help to Hoever against walker-pieters whilst giving away stupid fouls whenever he went near someone.
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Post by pushon on Apr 27, 2024 21:02:35 GMT
There are 2 players who have scored 20 goals in this division this season. In other words, they don't grow on trees. Getting a 20 goal a season striker is probably not going to happen. Agreed. We really should be looking for one who can knock in 12 or 13 a year though. I don’t see Campbell managing that either. Yes,but we need two of them. I'm really not an admirer of Campbell he's too nesh. But application like today, by him, could mean we already have one of those players. If only🙄
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Post by RF10 on Apr 27, 2024 21:32:21 GMT
I compared Ennis as a good League One footballer soon after he played a couple game. He's not. He's an average League one Footballer.
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Post by a on Apr 27, 2024 21:37:48 GMT
If Campbell does leave, honestly will anyone remember him as a cult figure/legend? Or will he be remembered as the nearly man he has shown himself to be? If it’s the latter then will anyone really care?
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 27, 2024 21:44:54 GMT
If Campbell does leave, honestly will anyone remember him as a cult figure/legend? Or will he be remembered as the nearly man he has shown himself to be? If it’s the latter then will anyone really care? If he signs an extension and scores 10+ next season playing his part in a play off challenge will we care?
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 27, 2024 22:20:38 GMT
Any suggestions of someone we can afford who won't have loads of other options and whose career isn't on a downward trajectory? Someone from abroad, relatively unknown but marked out in Big Jazzy D's database. Could end up being wank (Vidigal/Wezza). Could end up being mint (Bae/Burger). These are the markets we need to exploit. Or we could just adopt the 'oh, that'll do' approach endemic throughout both the club and city of Stoke on Trent in general and hope for the best. You specifically say "who doesn't need working on" but someone relatively unknown from abroad will undoubtedly need working on. Even Bae and Burger didn't immediately hit the ground running. I would say it was at least Christmas before we saw either of them show their best. Are we supposed to make do with Ennis and Mmaee till then? And if they end up being in the Vidigal mould what then? As I said, Campbell would be the cheap insurance policy if we can persuade him to stay.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 27, 2024 22:23:23 GMT
Agreed. We really should be looking for one who can knock in 12 or 13 a year though. I don’t see Campbell managing that either. Yes,but we need two of them. I'm really not an admirer of Campbell he's too nesh. But application like today, by him, could mean we already have one of those players. If only🙄 I have confidence that he enjoys playing for Schumacher and could carry on showing the application he has shown for the last two weeks.
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Post by jokker on Apr 28, 2024 5:36:30 GMT
Maybe Stoke fans are short sighted and gullible, but you are simply dimnwitted... There is no contract on offer for Campbell, and he doesn't want one. He wants to leave. You want a 20 goal a season striker... you think those kinds of players are going to join Stoke City just like that? I can't even remember when we had a striker who scored that amount! Shall we abandon all hope of finding a 20 goal a season striker because the oatcake poster thinks it impossible. That’s Ambition right there. Just look at the facts. We've been trying to sign someone of that description since God knows when. So now we can, because matelot1996 says so. Comedy fella yourself...
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Post by jokker on Apr 28, 2024 5:41:58 GMT
he has played less than half a season in games. OK 2 goals in half a season striker , not much use to us. He hasn't even played "half a season striker". More like three games as a striker . A lot of games he was sub or he was played as a winger. SS said it right post-match Ty needed successive games to gain confidence. He finally got that in the last three games of the season, and I would say, the reward for not just him, but all of us was rich.
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Post by stoke1989 on Apr 28, 2024 6:24:02 GMT
Still only 24
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Post by a on Apr 28, 2024 7:15:00 GMT
If Campbell does leave, honestly will anyone remember him as a cult figure/legend? Or will he be remembered as the nearly man he has shown himself to be? If it’s the latter then will anyone really care? If he signs an extension and scores 10+ next season playing his part in a play off challenge will we care? I don’t think he’s got 30+ games in him tbh
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Post by matelot1996 on Apr 28, 2024 7:15:15 GMT
Shall we abandon all hope of finding a 20 goal a season striker because the oatcake poster thinks it impossible. That’s Ambition right there. Just look at the facts. We've been trying to sign someone of that description since God knows when. So now we can, because matelot1996 says so. Comedy fella yourself... That’s it then, it must be impossible. 🤷
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 28, 2024 7:17:57 GMT
Campbell looks very clumsy when he receives the ball with his back to the goal, but his accelration is very good and will give him opportunities when one on one. If he only could be better at holding the ball up and compete for balls in the air he could be the player we hoped he would be.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 28, 2024 7:34:41 GMT
Maybe Stoke fans are short sighted and gullible, but you are simply dimnwitted... There is no contract on offer for Campbell, and he doesn't want one. He wants to leave. You want a 20 goal a season striker... you think those kinds of players are going to join Stoke City just like that? I can't even remember when we had a striker who scored that amount! I can, John Ritchie 30 per season Wayne Biggins Peter Thorne Mark Stein All players that came from nowhere for nominal fees.
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 28, 2024 7:40:18 GMT
So do we think he is staying/going?.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Apr 28, 2024 7:48:51 GMT
Campbell had an injury he couldn't stay on Junior made a good chance (for Ennis) did he not? Please explain what Junior did wrong He did yes. Ennis should have buried it. That aside he looked totally lost, didn’t offer much help to Hoever against walker-pieters whilst giving away stupid fouls whenever he went near someone. Agreed. Junior is seen as a star by many based on very little evidence. He runs around a lot but often to the wrong places, his technique is poor and his tackling a yellow card in waiting. He was totally lost yesterday
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Apr 28, 2024 7:55:22 GMT
He did yes. Ennis should have buried it. That aside he looked totally lost, didn’t offer much help to Hoever against walker-pieters whilst giving away stupid fouls whenever he went near someone. Agreed. Junior is seen as a star by many based on very little evidence. He runs around a lot but often to the wrong places, his technique is poor and his tackling a yellow card in waiting. He was totally lost yesterday I’ve never known what people see in him to be honest, reminds me a bit of Wilko. He’s not bad by any means but he’s not a natural on the ball.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 28, 2024 7:56:17 GMT
He did yes. Ennis should have buried it. That aside he looked totally lost, didn’t offer much help to Hoever against walker-pieters whilst giving away stupid fouls whenever he went near someone. Agreed. Junior is seen as a star by many based on very little evidence. He runs around a lot but often to the wrong places, his technique is poor and his tackling a yellow card in waiting. He was totally lost yesterday A couple of times yesterday he lost his man by drifting into really scary areas. Vidigal the same on the other side. We were more fragile when both came on. From the little he's played for us I'm not even convinced he is a RB. RWB maybe with plenty of coaching, but Hoever is miles ahead of him just now.
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Post by george2again on Apr 28, 2024 8:11:14 GMT
Agreed. Junior is seen as a star by many based on very little evidence. He runs around a lot but often to the wrong places, his technique is poor and his tackling a yellow card in waiting. He was totally lost yesterday A couple of times yesterday he lost his man by drifting into really scary areas. Vidigal the same on the other side. We were more fragile when both came on. From the little he's played for us I'm not even convinced he is a RB. RWB maybe with plenty of coaching, but Hoever is miles ahead of him just now. And Hoever can’t defend for shit.!
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Post by andystokey on Apr 28, 2024 8:15:24 GMT
A couple of times yesterday he lost his man by drifting into really scary areas. Vidigal the same on the other side. We were more fragile when both came on. From the little he's played for us I'm not even convinced he is a RB. RWB maybe with plenty of coaching, but Hoever is miles ahead of him just now. And Hoever can’t defend for shit.! It's a trend that FBs are no longer able to defend. It's been the case even back in the dark ages (when I played) that CBs do all the work 😁. I think it's been less obvious since SS started coaching him and the two CBs and GK upped their game.
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Post by jokker on Apr 28, 2024 8:38:53 GMT
Campbell looks very clumsy when he receives the ball with his back to the goal, but his accelration is very good and will give him opportunities when one on one. If he only could be better at holding the ball up and compete for balls in the air he could be the player we hoped he would be. If only he was 6ft6 he'd score on all those long high balls the defenders keep hoofing towards him, despite the fact that they must know he's afraid of the ball coming to his handsome head...but it's always his fault, not the long ball merchants. Campbell is the player he is, there's much to admire about him. Try looking at his positives!
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 28, 2024 10:31:50 GMT
I can, John Ritchie 30 per season Wayne Biggins Peter Thorne Mark Stein All players that came from nowhere for nominal fees. Different era. Clubs spent less, had smaller squads and all scouting was done by a network of scouts going to watch matches. Today with the top clubs having squads upwards of 30 each(and in some cases many more), even lower division football being shown on TV and the advent of the Internet leading to in depth analysis of every league player's stats and being able to access those stats at the touch of a button there is no chance of finding an unknown hidden in League 1 or 2 and if there is one their club will want a sizeable fee. As I said the other day "How much did Ennis cost?" And he's not that good.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 28, 2024 10:34:30 GMT
A couple of times yesterday he lost his man by drifting into really scary areas. Vidigal the same on the other side. We were more fragile when both came on. From the little he's played for us I'm not even convinced he is a RB. RWB maybe with plenty of coaching, but Hoever is miles ahead of him just now. And Hoever can’t defend for shit.! Myth promoted by oatcake posters with an agenda. He loses concentration at times but he can defend.
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