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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2023 18:13:23 GMT
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Post by loosestools on Aug 26, 2023 18:33:51 GMT
Same tactics every week from Rowett. Gets them to the play offs - who's right and who's wrong?
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Aug 26, 2023 18:33:53 GMT
4, solely for continuing to play Thompson ahead of Pearson and Burger
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Aug 26, 2023 18:56:40 GMT
5 - I don’t really want to make any overly critical comments yet. If we win in the cup and then against Preston, it’d feel a bit daft slating someone who’s got us 9 points in 5 games and in the 3rd round of the league cup… On the other hand, I wouldn’t be putting any money of us making the top 6 just yet either.
As much as I’ve been far from complimentary of him so far in this post, I have to admit I’d call it a pretty big success if we get that win and go into the international break with our squad nailed down, a 100% home record and nearly 2 points a game on the board despite such massive changes.
But if we lose…then I wouldn’t really have much interest in arguing his case against the usual impatient types who’ll be calling for his head. Funny how volatile things are this early in a season.
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 26, 2023 19:00:35 GMT
4. Lost 1-0 away from home.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 26, 2023 19:02:45 GMT
5 from me wrong starting 11, wrong starting tactics. Changed things at half time but we all knew that if a Rowett team scores first what will happen and it did. We huffed and puffed in a much improved 2nd half. We got what we expected from Rowetts Milwall, bullied and hustled with the main threat coming from set pieces but the AN didn't set the team up to deal with it. It was almost like watching us against Ipshit. Gouranga.
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Post by peterpan1 on Aug 26, 2023 19:09:50 GMT
5 from me wrong starting 11, wrong starting tactics. Changed things at half time but we all knew that if a Rowett team scores first what will happen and it did. We huffed and puffed in a much improved 2nd half. We got what we expected from Rowetts Milwall, bullied and hustled with the main threat coming from set pieces but the AN didn't set the team up to deal with it. It was almost like watching us against Ipshit. Gouranga. When will AN learn. You do the same things, generally you'll get the same results. Every man and his dog know how Millwall play....its been mentioned a 1000 times on here 🙄
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 26, 2023 19:14:51 GMT
I would have liked him to have come out and said "I got it wrong", rather than, "If we played like that from the get go it may have had less impact". However, he seems to be admitting five at the back isn't the way forward from here on in. I don't mind five at the back but we just don't play it well at all, under sucesssive managers. Neil has always been a manager who tries to balance what his own team does with how to nullify/expose the opposition and sometimes it works very well but time to tip the balance towards what we do rather than the opposition.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 26, 2023 19:15:56 GMT
6 from me. 1st half was abysmal and he was brave to make the 4 changes at HT and we deserved at least a point in the end. That SH half team deserved a win. We have so many new players that we can't expect the team to perform at their best until they've gelled.
OS.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 26, 2023 19:29:23 GMT
Billionaire backing , multi million budget bog standard average manager we don’t learn that lesson , it’s the most important role in the club , he’s now been out thought completely by Rowett in two meetings , out thought by a whole series of other bog standard championship managers over his year . . He’s been here a year and anyone can trigger this level of change but right now his record over that 12 months suggests he’s done nothing for the trajectory today was another game thrown away by his approach and selection begore it started . Questions starting to be posed by some of the sweet shop spending Chiquino and Mmaee looking lost causes . Others to be fair look good travers and vidigal. He needs a big week this week with considered movement , desperately needs a striker and rough house centre half and he needs to improve himself otherwise it’s going to a long autumn . If the second half had have been as poor as the first half then you would have had a point, but.. Our second half dominance was unfortunate not to yield minimum 1 goal. Calling that as completely out thought by Rowett is clearly agenda driven.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 26, 2023 19:38:47 GMT
Billionaire backing , multi million budget bog standard average manager we don’t learn that lesson , it’s the most important role in the club , he’s now been out thought completely by Rowett in two meetings , out thought by a whole series of other bog standard championship managers over his year . . He’s been here a year and anyone can trigger this level of change but right now his record over that 12 months suggests he’s done nothing for the trajectory today was another game thrown away by his approach and selection begore it started . Questions starting to be posed by some of the sweet shop spending Chiquino and Mmaee looking lost causes . Others to be fair look good travers and vidigal. He needs a big week this week with considered movement , desperately needs a striker and rough house centre half and he needs to improve himself otherwise it’s going to a long autumn . If the second half had have been as poor as the first half then you would have had a point, but.. Our second half dominance was unfortunate not to yield minimum 1 goal. Calling that as completely out thought by Rowett is clearly agenda driven. Two away games thrown away by poor selection poor approach , todays second half just a vain attempt to correct another cock up hes failed 100% of his away tests this season and his record over 12 months is poor at best he needs a big improvement on that over the autumn if he’s not to preside over another lower end finish
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 26, 2023 19:54:02 GMT
If the second half had have been as poor as the first half then you would have had a point, but.. Our second half dominance was unfortunate not to yield minimum 1 goal. Calling that as completely out thought by Rowett is clearly agenda driven. Two away games thrown away by poor selection poor approach , todays second half just a vain attempt to correct another cock up hes failed 100% of his away tests this season and his record over 12 months is poor at best he needs a big improvement on that over the autumn if he’s not to preside over another lower end finish Obviously you are completely entitled to your opinion but I think you may be seeing the situation around Neil through a dark filtering lens. I'm personally still excited by the new personnel and am not entirely surprised that the team hasn't entirely gelled as of yet. So far the owners and the manager and the newly appointed staff are creating excitement and appear to be in the process of breaking the usual Stoke City mould and I for one think it is long overdue. Each to their own I guess.
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Post by mrrine on Aug 26, 2023 20:07:45 GMT
A very generous 3 for the last 20 minutes alone.
I'm not giving any extra marks for fixing his mistakes, he's fucking *causing* them.
We all know how Millwall play, he knows it, and yet he starts like that.
There was a derided poster on here (can't remember who) who said they'd kick Vidigal out of the game and bully the forwards and whoever it was, was dead right.
Thompson was swamped. Laurent was a liability, the centre halves didn't know who to distribute the ball to and there was no plan from transition from defence to attack.
He did change that at half time, but for goodness sake - why wait til you're a goal down away from home to a team like that to deal with the bleeding obvious...
And so, I do not agree with giving him credit for fixing his own mistakes, despite claiming to know exactly what to expect from Millwall?
They were so so so average this is unacceptable.
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 26, 2023 20:21:26 GMT
If the second half had have been as poor as the first half then you would have had a point, but.. Our second half dominance was unfortunate not to yield minimum 1 goal. Calling that as completely out thought by Rowett is clearly agenda driven. Two away games thrown away by poor selection poor approach , todays second half just a vain attempt to correct another cock up hes failed 100% of his away tests this season and his record over 12 months is poor at best he needs a big improvement on that over the autumn if he’s not to preside over another lower end finish Even though I don't entirely disagree with your sentiments.. I think he should be given another couple of games before we start serious criticism. Let the new guys settle down and see if he can bring in a rock the city signing. Lot of work to do though.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 26, 2023 20:37:43 GMT
2 - absolutely moronic line up to start when better players available.
How many times to we have to play Thompson, he’s simply not good enough. Stop it.
433
Stop with 5 at the back.
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Post by innercitysumo on Aug 26, 2023 20:47:28 GMT
4 subs at half time? One thing we can't question is his balls. What? He's basically admitting that he made a massive balls up with his initial selection. You'll do nothing in this league unless you are brave and go out to win games. He shit himself big time. So surely he showed balls admitting he got it massively wrong and changing it at half time no? Although we should have been 4 down at half time if wasn’t for Travers
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 26, 2023 20:56:12 GMT
3. Simply because he turned a side out who weren’t prepared to play in a way that combats the subversive Millwall wan@ers. 70% of Millwalls success at Home is because of the non-footballing shit-housery and invariably weak officials. You have to move the ball around quickly, give yourself space, be very strong in the challenge. Bully them back and actually threaten their goal once in a while. We have abjectly failed against two sides are not even supposed to be top 6 contenders. Not impressed.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 26, 2023 20:56:33 GMT
5 from me wrong starting 11, wrong starting tactics. Changed things at half time but we all knew that if a Rowett team scores first what will happen and it did. We huffed and puffed in a much improved 2nd half. We got what we expected from Rowetts Milwall, bullied and hustled with the main threat coming from set pieces but the AN didn't set the team up to deal with it. It was almost like watching us against Ipshit. Gouranga. When will AN learn. You do the same things, generally you'll get the same results. Every man and his dog know how Millwall play....its been mentioned a 1000 times on here 🙄 Everyman and his dog except one and he’s the one picking the team and setting the game plan
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 26, 2023 20:58:45 GMT
Just what has the manager done in the year that he’s been here? Any positives are from recruitment, he’s still not shown he has any clue how to play or who to play.
He shat himself today. Five at the back v Mllwall
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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 26, 2023 21:05:14 GMT
8
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 26, 2023 21:05:17 GMT
Two away games thrown away by poor selection poor approach , todays second half just a vain attempt to correct another cock up hes failed 100% of his away tests this season and his record over 12 months is poor at best he needs a big improvement on that over the autumn if he’s not to preside over another lower end finish Even though I don't entirely disagree with your sentiments.. I think he should be given another couple of games before we start serious criticism. Let the new guys settle down and see if he can bring in a rock the city signing. Lot of work to do though. “A Rock the City Signing” 😂 Don’t know why that made me laugh out loud? Let’s be honest, If we signed Phil Fodden and Halland they would be shit in a Stoke Shirt.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 26, 2023 21:06:57 GMT
Just what has the manager done in the year that he’s been here? Any positives are from recruitment, he’s still not shown he has any clue how to play or who to play. He shat himself today. Five at the back v Mllwall We seem to have recruited very well, I've got major concerns that the manager isn't capable of getting the best from them though.
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Post by dastokie on Aug 26, 2023 21:09:22 GMT
8 made changes we were miles better second half should of got something from it
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2023 21:11:01 GMT
Just what has the manager done in the year that he’s been here? Any positives are from recruitment, he’s still not shown he has any clue how to play or who to play. He shat himself today. Five at the back v Mllwall Did you think the same after the 3 home wins mate🤔New players need time to gel and especially with so many new signings.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 26, 2023 21:14:59 GMT
He's gone out with a negative mindset against a team that is inferior to us, was low on confidence, their manager under pressure.
So so disappointing at this stage of the season with the signings we've made.
Last week, I can understand why we went that way, because Watford are a very strong side who should be top 6. But this week, that's pathetic, losing that game is pathetic.
Just what is his plan? His approach, his values?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 21:19:07 GMT
Watford were awful and despite the result the tactics were one of a man that shat his pants.
He needs to change fast.
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Post by RonnieStokie on Aug 26, 2023 21:20:11 GMT
5/10
We lost. The initial set up was terrible. Regardless of what happened in the second half.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 26, 2023 21:20:51 GMT
Now we've started to expand our search for players globally, the next stage is the manager.
So sort your shit out Alex, no excuses. Pointless giving teriyaki ingredients to a bloke who can only rustle up a carvery. And a shit carvery at that.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2023 21:21:16 GMT
5. Players who started deserved another chance. It didn’t work. Made decisive changes and dominated the second half, shame we couldn’t get a goal or two. It’s a work in progress.
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 26, 2023 21:25:26 GMT
Even though I don't entirely disagree with your sentiments.. I think he should be given another couple of games before we start serious criticism. Let the new guys settle down and see if he can bring in a rock the city signing. Lot of work to do though. “A Rock the City Signing” 😂 Don’t know why that made me laugh out loud? Let’s be honest, If we signed Phil Fodden and Halland they would be shit in a Stoke Shirt. 😄😄
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