|
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 29, 2023 9:44:25 GMT
The player with four goals in his first three games seems pretty handy at that so far? Don’t see how Stewart is a safe option when theres no guarantee he comes back the same player. Safer option, not a safe option. So because we've got a player who scored 4 goals we shouldn't bother trying to sign a goalscorer? I’m saying the idea of a ‘goalscorer’ is nebulous. The key thing is a player in that position who fits your system and helps create chances for the team. More chances = more goals and it doesn’t matter a jot who’s scoring them.
|
|
|
Post by kickfortouch on Aug 29, 2023 10:02:27 GMT
I think we need all need to trust the new process to a degree with this lad. Yes his record isn’t great but he’s a good age, 6 foot plus and quick so should be able to lead the line and there must be something in his data that has got Jared twitching. I’d prefer Cannon but with a few clear holes still in the squad and without an endless pit of money to spend I think we could do worse than this lad.
|
|
|
Post by Pugsley on Aug 29, 2023 10:19:18 GMT
Saw Cadiz play at Mallorca earlier this year (don't ask!) but this lad was not in the line up. Judging by the Cadiz team on that evening, I sincerely hope he's their best player as the rest of them were beyond garbage.
|
|
|
Post by theonlooker on Aug 29, 2023 10:28:01 GMT
Saw Cadiz play at Mallorca earlier this year (don't ask!) but this lad was not in the line up. Judging by the Cadiz team on that evening, I sincerely hope he's their best player as the rest of them were beyond garbage. I've got to ask?
|
|
|
Post by s7oke on Aug 29, 2023 10:29:12 GMT
Saw Cadiz play at Mallorca earlier this year (don't ask!) but this lad was not in the line up. Judging by the Cadiz team on that evening, I sincerely hope he's their best player as the rest of them were beyond garbage. I've got to ask? Me too
|
|
|
Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2023 10:29:29 GMT
Saw Cadiz play at Mallorca earlier this year (don't ask!) but this lad was not in the line up. Judging by the Cadiz team on that evening, I sincerely hope he's their best player as the rest of them were beyond garbage. Was she fit?
|
|
|
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 29, 2023 10:38:17 GMT
He's described as an inside forward rather than a main target man and the last clip suggests he's quick and suited to counter attacking football. Sounds like a different option to Wesley when we need an outlet. From the limited clips I’ve seen of him he definitely looks to be a main central striker playing down the middle. The Cadiz paper even describes him as a ‘battering ram’. That doesn’t have to mean he’s not quick or that’s he completely one dimensional. He looks the sort that we’ve been needing really. Big and physical who can bring others into play whilst also chipping in with a reasonable amount of goals himself. It’s probably fair to say that he’s not going to be a poacher type who will score 20 plus goals a season. But without seeing him up close we won’t fully know. We’ve just got to hope that Neil and Jared do and have seen enough in him think he’s what we need. From the clips and descriptions I've seen it's really hard to pin down what he is - he seemed to have started his career as an attacking midfielder and has also been described as a winger, inside forward and striker. His main attributes appear to be speed and strength but that doesn't make him a target man and he certainly isn't a prolific goal scorer. I don't really see how he fits in but presumably Neil does if we are indeed looking at him.
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Aug 29, 2023 10:41:55 GMT
We're talking about signing a goal scorer aren't we? Who’s ‘we’, sorry? If this striker causes problems and helps the team create chances, that’s the important thing. Who is going to score from these chances?
|
|
|
Post by cvillestokie on Aug 29, 2023 10:46:17 GMT
From the limited clips I’ve seen of him he definitely looks to be a main central striker playing down the middle. The Cadiz paper even describes him as a ‘battering ram’. That doesn’t have to mean he’s not quick or that’s he completely one dimensional. He looks the sort that we’ve been needing really. Big and physical who can bring others into play whilst also chipping in with a reasonable amount of goals himself. It’s probably fair to say that he’s not going to be a poacher type who will score 20 plus goals a season. But without seeing him up close we won’t fully know. We’ve just got to hope that Neil and Jared do and have seen enough in him think he’s what we need. From the clips and descriptions I've seen it's really hard to pin down what he is - he seemed to have started his career as an attacking midfielder and has also been described as a winger, inside forward and striker. His main attributes appear to be speed and strength but that doesn't make him a target man and he certainly isn't a prolific goal scorer. I don't really see how he fits in but presumably Neil does if we are indeed looking at him. If Chiquinho is going back, maybe he’ll be playing wide right? I think a wide target man could be a great partner for Mmaee. It would take the pressure off him doing that kind of work.
|
|
|
Post by st3mark on Aug 29, 2023 10:49:10 GMT
Safer option, not a safe option. So because we've got a player who scored 4 goals we shouldn't bother trying to sign a goalscorer? I’m saying the idea of a ‘goalscorer’ is nebulous. The key thing is a player in that position who fits your system and helps create chances for the team. More chances = more goals and it doesn’t matter a jot who’s scoring them. It matters that there's a player capable of scoring them. Gayle and Smallbone missed enough chances between them to win us an extra 6 games.
|
|
|
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 29, 2023 10:52:32 GMT
From the clips and descriptions I've seen it's really hard to pin down what he is - he seemed to have started his career as an attacking midfielder and has also been described as a winger, inside forward and striker. His main attributes appear to be speed and strength but that doesn't make him a target man and he certainly isn't a prolific goal scorer. I don't really see how he fits in but presumably Neil does if we are indeed looking at him. If Chiquinho is going back, maybe he’ll be playing wide right? I think a wide target man could be a great partner for Mmaee. It would take the pressure off him doing that kind of work. I'm really not sure he's a target man - people keep assuming that because he's a big unit. His aerial dual stats aren't very good but his first touch and technical ability look decent. Wide right or inverted forward on the left sounds more like it - he's quick and looks like he can cope with the physical side. To be honest I'm struggling to pin down how he fits in but I don't think he's the Wesley backup or main striker others appear to think he is.
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Aug 29, 2023 11:00:21 GMT
From the clips and descriptions I've seen it's really hard to pin down what he is - he seemed to have started his career as an attacking midfielder and has also been described as a winger, inside forward and striker. His main attributes appear to be speed and strength but that doesn't make him a target man and he certainly isn't a prolific goal scorer. I don't really see how he fits in but presumably Neil does if we are indeed looking at him. If Chiquinho is going back, maybe he’ll be playing wide right? I think a wide target man could be a great partner for Mmaee. It would take the pressure off him doing that kind of work. This is Mmaee who only scored goals in Hungary and Cyprus. He looks a talented lad but with the best will in the world he is going to take a couple of months to acclimatise to Championship football. We desperately need a goalscorer to lead the line. We could have won on Saturday had we possessed such a player. He would have made us less susceptible to defensive set pieces and been on the end of the half chances we were creating. He also could have offered a bit of protection to Vidigal who was clogged from pillar to post.
|
|
|
Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 29, 2023 11:12:29 GMT
We need to give this fella a miss, we've already got one unproven striker at this level who we've spent a fair chunk on.
|
|
|
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 29, 2023 11:27:18 GMT
I’m saying the idea of a ‘goalscorer’ is nebulous. The key thing is a player in that position who fits your system and helps create chances for the team. More chances = more goals and it doesn’t matter a jot who’s scoring them. It matters that there's a player capable of scoring them. Gayle and Smallbone missed enough chances between them to win us an extra 6 games. It doesn't necessarily have to be the player leading the line though. That's my point. Vidigal looks a lot like a player capable of scoring them and Campbell if he stays and stays fit is another who can do that too.
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Aug 29, 2023 11:28:37 GMT
We need to give this fella a miss, we've already got one unproven striker at this level who we've spent a fair chunk on. is £2m a fair chunk? wouldn't get you Dion Charles that money
|
|
|
Post by apb1 on Aug 29, 2023 11:58:26 GMT
I had never heard of any brand new player we've signed this summer, with the exception of a slight awareness of Enda Stevens' existence. Even McNally and Rose were just below my radar. If we'd run a poll on signing Mike Sheron it would have come out as a resounding 'no thanks' I'm sure. As such I have no idea if this guy is another Vidigal or another Mmaee My main worry is the lack of CB cover.
|
|
|
Post by cvillestokie on Aug 29, 2023 12:14:35 GMT
If Chiquinho is going back, maybe he’ll be playing wide right? I think a wide target man could be a great partner for Mmaee. It would take the pressure off him doing that kind of work. This is Mmaee who only scored goals in Hungary and Cyprus. He looks a talented lad but with the best will in the world he is going to take a couple of months to acclimatise to Championship football. We desperately need a goalscorer to lead the line. We could have won on Saturday had we possessed such a player. He would have made us less susceptible to defensive set pieces and been on the end of the half chances we were creating. He also could have offered a bit of protection to Vidigal who was clogged from pillar to post. We lost on Saturday because we conceded from the second play of a set piece and the other team decided that they were done with game. If they’d have kept it up, we’d have conceded another set piece and probably wouldn’t have created the two chances that we had anyways. It was exactly the same formula that finished us off so often last year. We have goalscorers to lead the line in Vidigal and Campbell. Now that we have Wesley, we should play Baker in an advanced role and allow him to pepper shots from outside the area all game. He’d rake them in for us. Who cares where Mmaee only scored goals in? Play him to his strengths and you will see him score goals here. You have to back the players that you bring in or you’ll just create frustration and disharmony.
|
|
|
Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 29, 2023 12:21:12 GMT
People should no buy now not to judge a young player especially striker on what they have done previously in other countries. Numerous examples of players who seemed to do nothing abroad but excelled in the UK.
Even look closer to home with Harry Kane. He flopped at every loan he had and the suddenly became one of the worlds best ever goalscorers. Even look at Vidigal for us so far..never really been goalscorer yet has 4 in 4. Mahrez before he joined Leicester..had something like 6 goals in 60 games in french Ligue 2.
|
|
|
Post by nottinghamstokie on Aug 29, 2023 12:54:26 GMT
We need to give this fella a miss, we've already got one unproven striker at this level who we've spent a fair chunk on. is £2m a fair chunk? wouldn't get you Dion Charles that money I'd love to get Charles but I suspect Bolton would want three times that amount
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 29, 2023 12:58:15 GMT
cadenaser.com/andalucia/2023/08/29/dos-salidas-y-dos-llegadas-para-cerrar-el-mercado-de-fichajes-del-cadiz-cf-radio-cadiz/The first point is that players come out. Osmajic and Youba Diarra are the ones called to pack their bags. The sale that seems best on track is that of the Montenegrin. Cádiz will make cash with the striker, since he negotiates in an amount that can reach two million euros. An operation that would be round for a player who arrived at Cádiz for free. At this time his destination will be England and Cádiz could keep a percentage of a future sale. Osmajic did a good job last season in Portugal, something that has revalued him and will facilitate his departure for a financial transfer.
|
|
|
Post by cvillestokie on Aug 29, 2023 13:20:33 GMT
is £2m a fair chunk? wouldn't get you Dion Charles that money I'd love to get Charles but I suspect Bolton would want three times that amount He just signed a new contract last week, didn’t he?
|
|
|
Post by clarkeda on Aug 29, 2023 14:36:09 GMT
is £2m a fair chunk? wouldn't get you Dion Charles that money I'd love to get Charles but I suspect Bolton would want three times that amount Just signed a new 3 year deal. Won’t be moving this window.
|
|
|
Post by skip on Aug 29, 2023 14:43:04 GMT
Saw Cadiz play at Mallorca earlier this year (don't ask!) but this lad was not in the line up. Judging by the Cadiz team on that evening, I sincerely hope he's their best player as the rest of them were beyond garbage. Did you score?
|
|
|
Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2023 15:52:55 GMT
I had never heard of any brand new player we've signed this summer, with the exception of a slight awareness of Enda Stevens' existence. Even McNally and Rose were just below my radar. If we'd run a poll on signing Mike Sheron it would have come out as a resounding 'no thanks' I'm sure.
As such I have no idea if this guy is another Vidigal or another Mmaee My main worry is the lack of CB cover. Really were you around at the time? You do know we swapped him for Keith Scott who was about as popular as the plague at the time. If you'd run a poll on swapping him for a pack of bog rolls it wouldn't have been a "no thanks".
|
|
|
Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2023 15:56:50 GMT
This is Mmaee who only scored goals in Hungary and Cyprus. He looks a talented lad but with the best will in the world he is going to take a couple of months to acclimatise to Championship football. We desperately need a goalscorer to lead the line. We could have won on Saturday had we possessed such a player. He would have made us less susceptible to defensive set pieces and been on the end of the half chances we were creating. He also could have offered a bit of protection to Vidigal who was clogged from pillar to post. We lost on Saturday because we conceded from the second play of a set piece and the other team decided that they were done with game. If they’d have kept it up, we’d have conceded another set piece and probably wouldn’t have created the two chances that we had anyways. It was exactly the same formula that finished us off so often last year. We have goalscorers to lead the line in Vidigal and Campbell. Now that we have Wesley, we should play Baker in an advanced role and allow him to pepper shots from outside the area all game. He’d rake them in for us. Who cares where Mmaee only scored goals in? Play him to his strengths and you will see him score goals here. You have to back the players that you bring in or you’ll just create frustration and disharmony. You'd have to find them first.
|
|
|
Post by cvillestokie on Aug 29, 2023 16:17:10 GMT
We lost on Saturday because we conceded from the second play of a set piece and the other team decided that they were done with game. If they’d have kept it up, we’d have conceded another set piece and probably wouldn’t have created the two chances that we had anyways. It was exactly the same formula that finished us off so often last year. We have goalscorers to lead the line in Vidigal and Campbell. Now that we have Wesley, we should play Baker in an advanced role and allow him to pepper shots from outside the area all game. He’d rake them in for us. Who cares where Mmaee only scored goals in? Play him to his strengths and you will see him score goals here. You have to back the players that you bring in or you’ll just create frustration and disharmony. You'd have to find them first. 😴
|
|
|
Post by apb1 on Aug 29, 2023 17:08:50 GMT
I had never heard of any brand new player we've signed this summer, with the exception of a slight awareness of Enda Stevens' existence. Even McNally and Rose were just below my radar. If we'd run a poll on signing Mike Sheron it would have come out as a resounding 'no thanks' I'm sure.
As such I have no idea if this guy is another Vidigal or another Mmaee My main worry is the lack of CB cover. Really were you around at the time? You do know we swapped him for Keith Scott who was about as popular as the plague at the time. If you'd run a poll on swapping him for a pack of bog rolls it wouldn't have been a "no thanks". That's my point, even so there were still people who hated the idea of some Norwich reject. And the bog rolls were never going to sign for us.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2023 4:37:21 GMT
We lost on Saturday because we conceded from the second play of a set piece and the other team decided that they were done with game. If they’d have kept it up, we’d have conceded another set piece and probably wouldn’t have created the two chances that we had anyways. It was exactly the same formula that finished us off so often last year. We have goalscorers to lead the line in Vidigal and Campbell. Now that we have Wesley, we should play Baker in an advanced role and allow him to pepper shots from outside the area all game. He’d rake them in for us. Who cares where Mmaee only scored goals in? Play him to his strengths and you will see him score goals here. You have to back the players that you bring in or you’ll just create frustration and disharmony. You'd have to find them first. 🤡
|
|
|
Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2023 8:53:03 GMT
Verona pushing hardest for him. Wonder if we now think we can get Stewpot? www.eldesmarque.com/futbol/mercado-de-fichajes/20230830/entre-grecia-e-italia-cara-y-cruz-en-las-salidas-del-cadiz_300075188.htmlThe one from Mali does not leave any free chips because he was not registered, something that could happen with Osmajic. The Montenegrin is still in the squad and was called up last game against Almería, when there were already negotiations with Stoke City, Preston and Hellas Verona. It is, precisely, the Italian team that is most active in recent hours to secure the signing of the forward. Cádiz is very clear that it will only undertake the sale if very specific numbers are reached. If not, he could stay or leave on loan in the final hours of the market.
|
|
|
Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 30, 2023 9:12:10 GMT
Verona pushing hardest for him. Wonder if we now think we can get Stewpot? www.eldesmarque.com/futbol/mercado-de-fichajes/20230830/entre-grecia-e-italia-cara-y-cruz-en-las-salidas-del-cadiz_300075188.htmlThe one from Mali does not leave any free chips because he was not registered, something that could happen with Osmajic. The Montenegrin is still in the squad and was called up last game against Almería, when there were already negotiations with Stoke City, Preston and Hellas Verona. It is, precisely, the Italian team that is most active in recent hours to secure the signing of the forward. Cádiz is very clear that it will only undertake the sale if very specific numbers are reached. If not, he could stay or leave on loan in the final hours of the market. I'm not sure we'll take another gamble from overseas, if we are indeed after another striker. It'll be Stewart if we can sort a deal out, or somebody else UK based I reckon.
|
|