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Post by hardcastle on May 22, 2023 9:57:20 GMT
If Leicester come down, does that cost us £5 million in Souttar-related add-ons?
(Wasn't it £10 mill down with a further £5 mill if they avoided relegation?)
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Post by AlliG on May 22, 2023 11:20:03 GMT
Villa in the old 3rd Division had Peter Broadbent, one of the great post war inside forwards, in their team. Slightly off topic but why were pre war records replaced as it were? Was it a respect thing for young men who never got to play or to honour those who were lost and retain the records they held? I remember an article from a fair while back about women’s football being very popular during world war 2 as most men went too fight It was WWI for women's football. (It was basically banned by the FA from 1921-1971) I am not sure pre-war records were replaced as such. Growing up I knew all about Dixie Dean and George Camsell and even pre-WWI players like Steve Bloomer and Alf Common (1st £1,000 player). My Dad started watching Stoke in 1936 so I was taught all about the likes of Freddie Steele, Joe Johnson and, obviously, the young Stan Matthews. I also knew an old gentleman who had played 50+ games for Stoke in the 1920s as an amateur. I think there were 2 reasons for the pre & post war split. Firstly, League & FA Cup football was put on hold for nearly 7 years for the war. Such a gap meant that a large number of players in pre-war football did not restart their careers after the war. Equally, players who were teenagers at the start of the war had to wait until until the Leagues restarted in August 1946 to begin their career. e.g. Tom Finney was 24 (and a star of wartime football) before he made his League debut. The second reason is more prosaic. Even 40 years ago the number of people who had seen these pre-war stars in their pomp was beginning to decline rapidly and with very limited film available those stars were slipping into ancient history. (You would now have to be well over 90 to remember seeing pre-war football). The passage of time is why most of the stars of the 60s and 70s are now mainly only remembered by those going a bit grey around the edges. With the amount of football on TV over the last 30 years and the proliferation of methods to record those games and players, it will be interesting to see how that changes the way we remember and recall players long after they have hung up their boots.
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Post by thebet365 on May 22, 2023 11:23:03 GMT
If Leicester come down, does that cost us £5 million in Souttar-related add-ons? (Wasn't it £10 mill down with a further £5 mill if they avoided relegation?) No 15 Mill + add ons, but yeah there probably was a survival add on so will cost us some money. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64479154
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Post by mickstupp on May 22, 2023 12:43:46 GMT
When was the last time all three promoted clubs from the Championship avoided relegation? Can`t imagine that`s happened very often in recent years, although I think it did occur in the season we went down.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on May 22, 2023 13:12:36 GMT
When was the last time all three promoted clubs from the Championship avoided relegation? Can`t imagine that`s happened very often in recent years, although I think it did occur in the season we went down. 2000/01 Fulham, Blackburn, Bolton. 2010/11 QPR, Norwich, Swansea
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 18:48:24 GMT
When was the last time all three promoted clubs from the Championship avoided relegation? Can`t imagine that`s happened very often in recent years, although I think it did occur in the season we went down. When was the last time all promoted went down? I remember it happening when I was a kid and being randomly interested in the statistic (Crystal Palace definitely one, maybe Barnsley/Bolton completing the trio but unsure on them two) but maybe it’s happened since. Edit: ye it was those 3 in 97/98, not gona lie I’m quite impressed at my own memory
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Post by apb1 on May 23, 2023 10:48:05 GMT
Would be so funny if Bournemouth beat Everton and the Toffees went down. They were celebrating, and all the pundits are now talking, as if that game was a foregone conclusion. Bnmth are clearly better than Everton and more than capable of winning that game.
Leeds are just shite but they pulled it off right at the death last year IIRC.
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 23, 2023 10:58:43 GMT
Would be so funny if Bournemouth beat Everton and the Toffees went down. They were celebrating, and all the pundits are now talking, as if that game was a foregone conclusion. Bnmth are clearly better than Everton and more than capable of winning that game. Leeds are just shite but they pulled it off right at the death last year IIRC. Just can't see Everton not winning. The main concern is that they try to play too cautiously from the off. Or go 1-0 up and sit in. They know what they have to do though and with a vociferous crowd behind them and Bournemouth on the beach, I can see them being home and hosed by half time. The three of them are all very poor though aren't they. Should all be relegated tbh, if you can't hit at least a point a game then you don't deserve to stay up.
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2023 11:06:27 GMT
If Leicester win an Everton draw sends them down
a Leicester win seems remote though
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Post by scfc75 on May 23, 2023 11:54:46 GMT
Just can’t see beyond the bottom 3 staying as it is now. I expect Leicester and Leeds to both lose, and Everton to get at least a point.
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Post by Veritas on May 23, 2023 11:54:59 GMT
If Leicester win an Everton draw sends them down a Leicester win seems remote though Against a West Ham thinking about playing in the Europa Cup final?
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Post by apb1 on May 23, 2023 12:04:16 GMT
If Leicester win an Everton draw sends them down a Leicester win seems remote though They'll have to go for it that's for sure. Hopefully there will be some vicarious excitement after our own mogadon season.
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Post by scfc75 on May 23, 2023 12:48:55 GMT
If Leicester win an Everton draw sends them down a Leicester win seems remote though Against a West Ham thinking about playing in the Europa Cup final? They made 6 changes after their last Euro game and still comfortably beat Leeds at the weekend. Plus Moyes might want to help Everton out. I seriously don’t think Leicester will beat WHU.
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Post by alsagerstokie on May 28, 2023 20:31:16 GMT
Wanted Everton but Leeds Leicester can have no complaints. Been Awful for a while Leeds especially.
The raid on Barnes Maddison Tielemans to begin soon.
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Post by Timmy on May 28, 2023 20:33:55 GMT
Wanted Everton but Leeds Leicester can have no complaints. Been Awful for a while Leeds especially. The raid on Barnes Maddison Tielemans to begin soon. They'll have a massive warchest to invest in their squads. Maybe they will buy Afobe, Ince, McClean etc.. nope they won't be so clueless.
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Post by apb1 on May 28, 2023 22:05:30 GMT
So Leeds Leicester and Soton coming down. Will any of them mess it up as badly as us? Can't see it.
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Post by duckling on May 28, 2023 23:02:30 GMT
When was the last time all three promoted clubs from the Championship avoided relegation? Can`t imagine that`s happened very often in recent years, although I think it did occur in the season we went down. 2000/01 Fulham, Blackburn, Bolton. 2010/11 QPR, Norwich, Swansea 2017/2018, no? Huddersfield, Brighton, and Newcastle.
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Post by PotterLog on May 28, 2023 23:52:03 GMT
So Leeds Leicester and Soton coming down. Will any of them mess it up as badly as us? Can't see it. Be interesting to see what their selling and spending strategies are
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Post by bloodtypered on May 29, 2023 21:27:11 GMT
Bought a new tv today, to watch the prem next season Opened the box and theres no leeds
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Post by Goonie on May 30, 2023 6:00:51 GMT
So Leeds Leicester and Soton coming down. Will any of them mess it up as badly as us? Can't see it. Be interesting to see what their selling and spending strategies are Of the 3 relegated teams it's Southampton, ironically, I see going back up as they have fewer big names to leave and rebuild Leicester could really struggle for the owners to put money back in as their parent company is struggling financially since COVID Leeds are also in transition
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