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Post by starkiller on Feb 18, 2023 17:23:38 GMT
In terms of quality, this is the worst Stoke side I've ever seen.
Even when we have been lower, we had more players with ability.
I guess the standard of football has dropped all round. And this team is true garbage.
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Post by chicagostokie on Feb 18, 2023 17:23:46 GMT
But clearly that’s not true. We dominated possession, created all the chances, limited them to one shot on target which luckily deflected in. I agree with a lot of comments on the use of subs, but today we deserved to win, and if we take off those golden opportunities, win comfortably. They were comfortable with us in possession because we weren't doing anything with it, we weren't creative enough, didnt penetrate and they could just sit back and physically win in the air. So that's the possession stats, dominating the percentage does not tell the story of that game *at all*. Today was the opposite of the last game. and the stats meant nothing then either. Thought we were beaten by average championship tactics (again). And again, that clearly isn’t true. We created great opportunities but didn’t finish. So they weren’t comfortable with us in possession. We lost to an awful team, but we certainly shouldn’t have.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 17:25:02 GMT
BET 365 needs removing from the shirts and replaced with OXFAM.
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 18, 2023 17:31:46 GMT
BET 365 needs removing from the shirts and replaced with OXFAM. Or Gift Aid
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Post by mrrine on Feb 18, 2023 17:32:42 GMT
They were comfortable with us in possession because we weren't doing anything with it, we weren't creative enough, didnt penetrate and they could just sit back and physically win in the air. So that's the possession stats, dominating the percentage does not tell the story of that game *at all*. Today was the opposite of the last game. and the stats meant nothing then either. Thought we were beaten by average championship tactics (again). And again, that clearly isn’t true. We created great opportunities but didn’t finish. So they weren’t comfortable with us in possession. We lost to an awful team, but we certainly shouldn’t have. The only "truth" is the stats and the result. We lost and we had more possession. How many of those chances were 'great' really? I can't think of any genuine chances. (20-something shots including Thompson shooting into row Z just doesn't make your case at all.) They did contain us. We lost to them because they had a game plan and they were physical and that's really all they needed, we've seen it time and time again and the worst bit is they were terrible. Still good enough to beat us, which should be worrying and surprising but it's just predictable.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 17:33:18 GMT
Lowe has looked better than any of our starting front 3 in just 30 seconds. Tezgal plus Lowe couldn't do any worse than the wank we are playing.
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Post by theblackdeath on Feb 18, 2023 17:34:30 GMT
And again, that clearly isn’t true. We created great opportunities but didn’t finish. So they weren’t comfortable with us in possession. We lost to an awful team, but we certainly shouldn’t have. The only "truth" is the stats and the result. We lost and we had more possession. How many of those chances were 'great' really? I can't think of any genuine chances. (20-something shots including Thompson shooting into row Z just doesn't make your case at all.) They did contain us. We lost to them because they had a game plan and they were physical and that's really all they needed, we've seen it time and time again and the worst bit is they were terrible. Still good enough to beat us, which should be worrying and surprising but it's just predictable. Smallbones chance 1st half was a sitter, should have easily scored
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Post by mrrine on Feb 18, 2023 17:35:55 GMT
The only "truth" is the stats and the result. We lost and we had more possession. How many of those chances were 'great' really? I can't think of any genuine chances. (20-something shots including Thompson shooting into row Z just doesn't make your case at all.) They did contain us. We lost to them because they had a game plan and they were physical and that's really all they needed, we've seen it time and time again and the worst bit is they were terrible. Still good enough to beat us, which should be worrying and surprising but it's just predictable. Smallbones chance 1st half was a sitter, should have easily scored Yeah fair point - Good chance. Any others though?
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Post by stokiesteve on Feb 18, 2023 17:37:02 GMT
I really don’t know how we lost that.
Which is what everyone said when we beat them with Pulis in charge.
Frustrated we all are.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Feb 18, 2023 17:37:56 GMT
On the way home that was wank , no goal threat whatsoever. Neil has made us worse . Respect to you for loyally going to watch that utter rubbish attempt to score a goal. AN has absolutely no clue as to how to manage them - substitution timings were woeful, with that last sub an example of witless management. It will be a ball-aching, disheartening spectacle to watch this team and manager scrape just enough points to stay up. IF they somehow do happen to achieve it, the moment that's done, jettison the the manager.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 18, 2023 17:39:11 GMT
...and created more than enough to win comfortably, but with that useless Gayle up front we will always struggle to score! Hmmm not how I saw it at all. We lost the midfield battle comfortably, I guess that's why he brought Baker on. We were the worse of the two teams despite holding more possession and shots - Gayle was a carcrash, putting baker on pushed them even deeper without giving the impression we were ever going to score. Lost the midfield battle!? We pegged them back for most of the game! How on earth can you come up with that conclusion!?!
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 18, 2023 17:41:12 GMT
We played more than well enough to win this comfortably if we've had a decent striker up front! We won 4 nil against Reading and 3 against Huddersfield. Blackpool are way worse than both of them We should not have lost that game full stop It’s not acceptable and no excuses make it so Excuses? We should have won it comfortably, but didn't because we played a useless striker up front! Anybody but Gayle next game please!
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Post by steve66 on Feb 18, 2023 17:43:17 GMT
Have to say we played well today, controlled game for the most part, finishing poor once again has cost us & without benefit of tv replays I’d say we could of had 3/4 penalties, what has disgusted me however is the abuse some of our “fans” were giving our team at the end, calling them wankers etc, Laurent came over to some of them to have a chat, don’t know what he said except his body language was sort of we tried our best I’d guess, even Sarkic came over and given abuse, he also seemed to express disbelief at the gestures, we have no divine right to win and were up against a side defending for their lives, no one is more gutted at losing than me but if I were a stoke player tonight I would seriously consider fucking off..
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Post by Fred Ferret on Feb 18, 2023 17:43:52 GMT
They were comfortable with us in possession because we weren't doing anything with it, we weren't creative enough, didnt penetrate and they could just sit back and physically win in the air. So that's the possession stats, dominating the percentage does not tell the story of that game *at all*. Today was the opposite of the last game. and the stats meant nothing then either. Thought we were beaten by average championship tactics (again). And again, that clearly isn’t true. We created great opportunities but didn’t finish. So they weren’t comfortable with us in possession. We lost to an awful team, but we certainly shouldn’t have. Sorry mate, if you have that many chances and level of possession, that team should have scored a goal. They didn't and absolutely deserve to crawl back home, as an apology of a team.
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Post by threepoints on Feb 18, 2023 17:46:15 GMT
Come back Berahino, all is forgiven!
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Post by mrrine on Feb 18, 2023 17:51:35 GMT
Hmmm not how I saw it at all. We lost the midfield battle comfortably, I guess that's why he brought Baker on. We were the worse of the two teams despite holding more possession and shots - Gayle was a carcrash, putting baker on pushed them even deeper without giving the impression we were ever going to score. Lost the midfield battle!? We pegged them back for most of the game! How on earth can you come up with that conclusion!?! Im not arguing we didnt have more of the ball. They stood off when they needed to. They were physical when they needed to be. They fouled and niggled when they needed to. They soaked up the pressure really effectively. They pushed us into the wide areas and whenever we got into dangerous areas in the centre they'd foul and nearly all of them would be behind the ball. They won almost every single header.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 18, 2023 17:58:35 GMT
And the Stoke City Charity Bus rolls into town in the nick of time. Nailed on Blackpool win then. It's amazing how many times this line gets trotted out but doesn't come to pass You were saying?
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Post by chicagostokie on Feb 18, 2023 17:59:32 GMT
Smallbones chance 1st half was a sitter, should have easily scored Yeah fair point - Good chance. Any others though? What about the Gayle one from 3 yards out in the first half? The Campbell one where their keeper pulled off an amazing save. At least watch the game before commentating your agenda.
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Post by mrrine on Feb 18, 2023 18:07:08 GMT
Yeah fair point - Good chance. Any others though? What about the Gayle one from 3 yards out in the first half? The Campbell one where their keeper pulled off an amazing save. At least watch the game before commentating your agenda. The clear fact is that none of the chances were fucking good enough to beat the bottom of the league - there's my 'agenda' in broad daylight. None of them (arguably Smallbone had the best of it) were that decent. Stats tell you what happened, I firmly believe we were second best for the reasons stated above. If you want to think we bossed that game then crack on, I'll think you're wrong and you'll think I'm wrong.
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Post by chicagostokie on Feb 18, 2023 18:12:52 GMT
What about the Gayle one from 3 yards out in the first half? The Campbell one where their keeper pulled off an amazing save. At least watch the game before commentating your agenda. The clear fact is that none of the chances were fucking good enough to beat the bottom of the league - there's my 'agenda' in broad daylight. None of them (arguably Smallbone had the best of it) were that decent. Stats tell you what happened, I firmly believe we were second best for the reasons stated above. If you want to think we bossed that game then crack on, I'll think you're wrong and you'll think I'm wrong. I don’t think we bossed that game, I know we did. Look at the stats, we dominated in every area. Including aerial duals (vs your previous comment). If Gayle or Smallbone had taken easy chances, we win comfortably.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 18, 2023 18:13:04 GMT
We had 3-4 very good chances that most strikers in this league would put away! This was Rotheram all over again and we should have won comfortably, instead we lose because we concede a deflected shot before 10 minutes have gone!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 18, 2023 18:18:35 GMT
Breaking news proper.manager transforms relegation team Huddersfield meanwhile mick Mccarthy pit coaches Neil we are in real peril now and Neil simply can't be allowed to run this week he's utterly without merit the longer he stays the more relegation becomes real January has been as damaging as his appointment in the first place I hope he stays just to piss you off you moron Ooh good old name calling . If he does it won't just be me it pisses off is the point
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Post by a on Feb 18, 2023 18:19:48 GMT
Reckon the rate the manager thread isn’t 9s or 10s this week 😂
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Post by slash on Feb 18, 2023 18:28:25 GMT
this team is so fucking infuriating, i think i might become an 'Everything Else' poster only until next season. what a seriously wank side.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 18, 2023 18:37:58 GMT
We’ll be fine with Pearson playing at Swansea this is the start of the turnaround
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 18, 2023 18:46:22 GMT
Have to say we played well today, controlled game for the most part, finishing poor once again has cost us & without benefit of tv replays I’d say we could of had 3/4 penalties, what has disgusted me however is the abuse some of our “fans” were giving our team at the end, calling them wankers etc, Laurent came over to some of them to have a chat, don’t know what he said except his body language was sort of we tried our best I’d guess, even Sarkic came over and given abuse, he also seemed to express disbelief at the gestures, we have no divine right to win and were up against a side defending for their lives, no one is more gutted at losing than me but if I were a stoke player tonight I would seriously consider fucking off.. Stoke players won’t fuck off as you put it mate. They are earning too much and producing nothing. The fans who fork out to get to games are entitled to voice their opinion because they have no other way to get their message across
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Post by pushon on Feb 18, 2023 18:48:46 GMT
I don't care what anyone else says, I'll really miss Nige when he's gone. I hope Ange doesn't ever get sick though, he's lost without someone telling him what's happening. I'm not sure he could recognise Jason Brown.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 19:02:55 GMT
FFS, are we incapable of putting a run together?
I'm not asking for too much, a 5 game unbeaten run will do.
Then again, what can one expect when most of the players are just not very good.
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 18, 2023 19:37:25 GMT
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 18, 2023 19:44:58 GMT
I still struggle to understand how we lost this game, and it really annoys me too!
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