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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2023 22:12:40 GMT
Odd thats there's been no communication from the club about it still and odd that Neil denied that he'd been sent back when it appears that he has gone based on the last two match day squads. Must have missed this, what did Neil say?
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Post by st3mark on Aug 31, 2023 6:41:19 GMT
Odd thats there's been no communication from the club about it still and odd that Neil denied that he'd been sent back when it appears that he has gone based on the last two match day squads. Must have missed this, what did Neil say? After the millwall game he was asked directly if chiquinho had been sent back. He said "it's not true I just didn't pick him in the squad"
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2023 6:43:56 GMT
Can only think all parties are trying to find him somewhere suitable to spend the season, where he's going to play.
The question is what happens if they can't find anywhere for him?
Does he have to stay, sulking on the fringes here? Or do Wolves reluctantly take him back even if he doesn't make their 25?
Surely there's someone who'll take him at a reasonable level - it's in nobody's interests he spends a season kicking his heels
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 31, 2023 7:04:05 GMT
Can only think all parties are trying to find him somewhere suitable to spend the season, where he's going to play. The question is what happens if they can't find anywhere for him? Does he have to stay, sulking on the fringes here? Or do Wolves reluctantly take him back even if he doesn't make their 25? Surely there's someone who'll take him at a reasonable level - it's in nobody's interests he spends a season kicking his heels What happens if nobody else wants to take him and Wolves don't want to take him back and pay his wages whilst he's on the peripheral? We'd be stuck with him, on likely significant wages. And he is undoubtedly a talent..... .....an impossibility he actually returns to the fold at some point? Probably not, but you never know.
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Post by werrington on Aug 31, 2023 7:10:11 GMT
Can only think all parties are trying to find him somewhere suitable to spend the season, where he's going to play. The question is what happens if they can't find anywhere for him? Does he have to stay, sulking on the fringes here? Or do Wolves reluctantly take him back even if he doesn't make their 25? Surely there's someone who'll take him at a reasonable level - it's in nobody's interests he spends a season kicking his heels He’s a Wolves asset though …..there’s no way they’ll leave him here to just rot, they’d have him back to play for their u21s before they’d do that
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2023 7:11:01 GMT
Can only think all parties are trying to find him somewhere suitable to spend the season, where he's going to play. The question is what happens if they can't find anywhere for him? Does he have to stay, sulking on the fringes here? Or do Wolves reluctantly take him back even if he doesn't make their 25? Surely there's someone who'll take him at a reasonable level - it's in nobody's interests he spends a season kicking his heels What happens if nobody else wants to take him and Wolves don't want to take him back and pay his wages whilst he's on the peripheral? We'd be stuck with him, on likely significant wages. And he is undoubtedly a talent..... .....an impossibility he actually returns to the fold at some point? Probably not, but you never know. You'd think the calculation from Wolves would have to be he needs to be playing somewhere - even if it's back at a small Portuguese team paying 20% of his wages? He can't afford to spend a season as a 23yo not playing football, especially after missing a year. Maybe easier said than done fixing him up somewhere though. If he's still here on September 2nd, who knows how far things have gone and whether a return to the fold is possible? Wolves fans seem to think if he went back there, he'd be in the mix, at least on the bench due to their lack of numbers. It's all a bit odd.
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 31, 2023 7:15:09 GMT
What happens if nobody else wants to take him and Wolves don't want to take him back and pay his wages whilst he's on the peripheral? We'd be stuck with him, on likely significant wages. And he is undoubtedly a talent..... .....an impossibility he actually returns to the fold at some point? Probably not, but you never know. You'd think the calculation from Wolves would have to be he needs to be playing somewhere - even if it's back at a small Portuguese team paying 20% of his wages? He can't afford to spend a season as a 23yo not playing football, especially after missing a year. Maybe easier said than done fixing him up somewhere though. If he's still here on September 2nd, who knows how far things have gone and whether a return to the fold is possible? Wolves fans seem to think if he went back there, he'd be in the mix, at least on the bench due to their lack of numbers. It's all a bit odd. Agreed mate. Everything points to him being moved onto a new club before tomorrow night. Time is ticking though, and who knows what conversations are going on behind closed doors? The frustrating thing about these situations is that you'd assume the slightest bit of maturity/humility from the player, a one-to-chat with the Manager, an apology and promise to knuckle down, and all this then goes away. That never seems to happen though. Once the initial tiff has happened, players' ego appears to never allow reconciliation.
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Post by scfc5 on Aug 31, 2023 7:20:46 GMT
Can he play anywhere else but us or Wolves until January? Didn’t think you could be registered for 3 teams in the same window? Might be different for loans but I’m pretty sure you can’t for permanents.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2023 7:21:14 GMT
Can only think all parties are trying to find him somewhere suitable to spend the season, where he's going to play. The question is what happens if they can't find anywhere for him? Does he have to stay, sulking on the fringes here? Or do Wolves reluctantly take him back even if he doesn't make their 25? Surely there's someone who'll take him at a reasonable level - it's in nobody's interests he spends a season kicking his heels He’s a Wolves asset though …..there’s no way they’ll leave him here to just rot, they’d have him back to play for their u21s before they’d do that They’re also brassic so if they can save money then I’m not sure they would?
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 31, 2023 7:25:19 GMT
Can he play anywhere else but us or Wolves until January? Didn’t think you could be registered for 3 teams in the same window? Might be different for loans but I’m pretty sure you can’t for permanents. He hasn’t played for wolves yet so think he might be ok.
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Post by trotter1980 on Aug 31, 2023 7:28:30 GMT
Can he play anywhere else but us or Wolves until January? Didn’t think you could be registered for 3 teams in the same window? Might be different for loans but I’m pretty sure you can’t for permanents. its not registration its competitive games played. he's only played pre season so he can still go to another club
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 31, 2023 7:37:02 GMT
He’s a Wolves asset though …..there’s no way they’ll leave him here to just rot, they’d have him back to play for their u21s before they’d do that They’re also brassic so if they can save money then I’m not sure they would? I can’t believe they’d do that mate unless they too have given up on his attitude and are simply trying to mitigate 12 months worth of amortisation on the £3-4m they spent on him by letting us pay his wages for a season before they sell him and take a ffp hit on him next summer. It makes no sense whatsoever otherwise to have a potentially valuable asset depreciating in our bomb squad. He’ll be worth bugger all next year if that happens.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 31, 2023 7:37:02 GMT
He’s a Wolves asset though …..there’s no way they’ll leave him here to just rot, they’d have him back to play for their u21s before they’d do that They’re also brassic so if they can save money then I’m not sure they would? I can’t believe they’d do that mate unless they too have given up on his attitude and are simply trying to mitigate 12 months worth of amortisation on the £3-4m they spent on him by letting us pay his wages for a season before they sell him and take a ffp hit on him next summer. It makes no sense whatsoever otherwise to have a potentially valuable asset depreciating in our bomb squad. He’ll be worth bugger all next year if that happens.
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Post by andystokey on Aug 31, 2023 7:40:04 GMT
Can he play anywhere else but us or Wolves until January? Didn’t think you could be registered for 3 teams in the same window? Might be different for loans but I’m pretty sure you can’t for permanents. its not registration its competitive games played. he's only played pre season so he can still go to another club He hasn't, he's played league and Cup. The rules are 3 clubs in a season he's fine with the rules.
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 31, 2023 8:06:06 GMT
its not registration its competitive games played. he's only played pre season so he can still go to another club He hasn't, he's played league and Cup. The rules are 3 clubs in a season he's fine with the rules. I think he was referring to playing for Wolves pre season not us. The rules are he can be registered with 3 clubs in a season but only play competitive games for 2 of those, but as he's not played for Wolves he's fine to find another club.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 31, 2023 8:07:38 GMT
A Portuguese side on loan is surely his most likely destination? Can't see another Championship side being keen, especially if they have got wind of his attitude. You'd think someone somewhere would take him for half a season or longer.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 31, 2023 8:29:40 GMT
He’s a Wolves asset though …..there’s no way they’ll leave him here to just rot, they’d have him back to play for their u21s before they’d do that They’re also brassic so if they can save money then I’m not sure they would? Maybe Wolves would only agree to take him back on the understanding there is no refund on the loan fee and wages paid - much in the same way PSV got stitched by Hoever when they effectively paid his wages when on loan to us last season.
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Post by werrington on Aug 31, 2023 8:45:53 GMT
He’s a Wolves asset though …..there’s no way they’ll leave him here to just rot, they’d have him back to play for their u21s before they’d do that They’re also brassic so if they can save money then I’m not sure they would? Maybes but I’d doubt it with an asset who is worth millions and who’s value would depreciate massively by not kicking a ball for 12 months
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2023 9:04:44 GMT
What happens if nobody else wants to take him and Wolves don't want to take him back and pay his wages whilst he's on the peripheral? We'd be stuck with him, on likely significant wages. And he is undoubtedly a talent..... .....an impossibility he actually returns to the fold at some point? Probably not, but you never know. You'd think the calculation from Wolves would have to be he needs to be playing somewhere - even if it's back at a small Portuguese team paying 20% of his wages? He can't afford to spend a season as a 23yo not playing football, especially after missing a year. Maybe easier said than done fixing him up somewhere though. If he's still here on September 2nd, who knows how far things have gone and whether a return to the fold is possible? Wolves fans seem to think if he went back there, he'd be in the mix, at least on the bench due to their lack of numbers. It's all a bit odd. we are going off rumours mind Given he's not been in the last two squads I think it's fair to accept there's something in the rumours (at the very least) however we don't know what AN's thoughts are is it: 'he can fuck off' (quite possibly) or 'on the naughty step but if attitude changes e.t.c. door can open again? appreciate the latter scenario is probably less likely but we just don't know he's a talented player so if its he wont play a minute here Wolves will be keen to get him a different loan I think given Jojic is 'one for the future' AN would still want another winger in the squad ,guess that might be one for January?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2023 9:16:28 GMT
They’re also brassic so if they can save money then I’m not sure they would? Maybes but I’d doubt it with an asset who is worth millions and who’s value would depreciate massively by not kicking a ball for 12 months What’s his value now though? It’s not much so if they can save a few quid then to me it’d make sense. Ideally for everyone he moves on but for Wolves I think it makes more sense for us to be paying for him rather than having him there doing nowt. At least he’s doing nowt and you don’t have to pay him for the privilege.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 31, 2023 11:11:57 GMT
Maybes but I’d doubt it with an asset who is worth millions and who’s value would depreciate massively by not kicking a ball for 12 months What’s his value now though? It’s not much so if they can save a few quid then to me it’d make sense. Ideally for everyone he moves on but for Wolves I think it makes more sense for us to be paying for him rather than having him there doing nowt. At least he’s doing nowt and you don’t have to pay him for the privilege. I would make an assumption that we are paying a part of his wages rather than all of them? What do I know though?
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Post by Northy on Aug 31, 2023 11:59:25 GMT
Let West Brom have him when we get Asante, that would be a double kick in the bollocks, a half arsed guy from Wolves in their strip helping to send them down.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2023 15:45:16 GMT
Not helpful from Chiq
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Post by Veritas on Aug 31, 2023 15:48:18 GMT
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 31, 2023 15:50:17 GMT
A Dion Sanders impersonation. I rate him 1 out of 10.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2023 15:54:11 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Aug 31, 2023 15:54:45 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2023 15:58:48 GMT
well that is really dumb
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 31, 2023 16:08:09 GMT
If he’s still here in September, he needs to go into the office with his tail tucked between his legs and apologize.
He needs to play football. We can’t afford to loan expensive players and have no use for them. You’d hope that he was grown up enough to see that he needs to think about his future and that AN was a decent manager who would offer an olive branch to players who want to play.
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2023 16:10:32 GMT
Can't imagine Wolves are impressed either
If they are trying to get another club to take him that other club might say they don't want the hassle
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