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Post by wrighter on Jan 15, 2023 8:13:25 GMT
Let"s go down and start again from scratch Some big clubs in Div 1 at the moment We wont get out of this league upwards with the crap we have now. Get shot and re start again Not popular with lots, but whatever choice is there ?? Nonsense, the same was being said before we got relegated to the Championship. The myth of relegation leading to a chance for a reset. just a thought
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Post by wrighter on Jan 15, 2023 8:15:15 GMT
Let"s go down and start again from scratch Some big clubs in Div 1 at the moment We wont get out of this league upwards with the crap we have now. Get shot and re start again Not popular with lots, but whatever choice is there ?? Did you just copy and paste a post from 2018? No, i didnt !! besides im one of these useless twats who doesnt know how to copy & paste
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 8:27:58 GMT
Let's see what happens in this transfer window, then the next. We can then properly judge Neil and a few of his signings. He's walked into a very toxic dressing room and quite obviously wants to sell a few to free up some cash. In my opinion, it would be ludicrous to bring in a new manager at this stage of the season because they will be faced with exactly the same players, who simply couldn't give a shit about the club.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 15, 2023 8:52:42 GMT
Relegation would not be a good reset!!
It would set us back years!
Have people seen league 1, arguably as difficult as the championship.
We have to stay up by whatever means necessary.
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Post by philb on Jan 15, 2023 8:55:27 GMT
Let's see what happens in this transfer window, then the next. We can then properly judge Neil and a few of his signings. He's walked into a very toxic dressing room and quite obviously wants to sell a few to free up some cash. In my opinion, it would be ludicrous to bring in a new manager at this stage of the season because they will be faced with exactly the same players, who simply couldn't give a shit about the club. Why is it a toxic dressing room? Have I missed something? Yes there are some poor players in that dressing room, hence the situation we find ourselves in, but I’ve not seen any evidence that the dressing room is toxic. Clueless and lazy yes but certainly not toxic as far as I am aware 🤷♂️
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 8:57:19 GMT
Let's see what happens in this transfer window, then the next. We can then properly judge Neil and a few of his signings. He's walked into a very toxic dressing room and quite obviously wants to sell a few to free up some cash. In my opinion, it would be ludicrous to bring in a new manager at this stage of the season because they will be faced with exactly the same players, who simply couldn't give a shit about the club. Why is it a toxic dressing room? Have I missed something? Yes there are some poor players in that dressing room, hence the situation we find ourselves in, but I’ve not seen any evidence that the dressing room is toxic. Clueless and lazy yes but certainly not toxic as far as I am aware 🤷♂️ I take it you didn't hear about the huge bust up over the world cup then?
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Post by robrigo on Jan 15, 2023 8:58:42 GMT
Why is it a toxic dressing room? Have I missed something? Yes there are some poor players in that dressing room, hence the situation we find ourselves in, but I’ve not seen any evidence that the dressing room is toxic. Clueless and lazy yes but certainly not toxic as far as I am aware 🤷♂️ I take it you didn't hear about the huge bust up over the world cup then? What happened?
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 9:01:40 GMT
I take it you didn't hear about the huge bust up over the world cup then? What happened? I don't know the ins and outs of what happened but the authorities had to be called. Neil wasn't present but found out very quickly. Not prepared to say anything else because that's all I know.
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Post by robrigo on Jan 15, 2023 9:05:08 GMT
I don't know the ins and outs of what happened but the authorities had to be called. Neil wasn't present but found out very quickly. Not prepared to say anything else because that's all I know. Cheers for the reply. Yesterday was the first time I thought we are going to be relegated. It appears that we are in complete free fall. Massive, massive couple of weeks coming up.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 9:05:21 GMT
I don't know the ins and outs of what happened but the authorities had to be called. Neil wasn't present but found out very quickly. Not prepared to say anything else because that's all I know. Happened in Dubai.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 9:06:01 GMT
I don't know the ins and outs of what happened but the authorities had to be called. Neil wasn't present but found out very quickly. Not prepared to say anything else because that's all I know. Cheers for the reply. Yesterday was the first time I thought we are going to be relegated. It appears that we are in complete free fall. Massive, massive couple of weeks coming up. It happened in Dubai mate.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 15, 2023 9:12:17 GMT
Cheers for the reply. Yesterday was the first time I thought we are going to be relegated. It appears that we are in complete free fall. Massive, massive couple of weeks coming up. It happened in Dubai mate. Can't help but think there is something very iffy about Rory and then Liam both being gone inside a week.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 15, 2023 9:13:25 GMT
Alex Neil needs to get a very big grip on this dressing room. Players don't fear failure, they show no pride whatsoever.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 9:14:41 GMT
It happened in Dubai mate. Can't help but think there is something very iffy about Rory and then Liam both being gone inside a week. I know what you mean. No idea if it's connected with the problems in Dubai.
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Post by philb on Jan 15, 2023 9:15:16 GMT
Why is it a toxic dressing room? Have I missed something? Yes there are some poor players in that dressing room, hence the situation we find ourselves in, but I’ve not seen any evidence that the dressing room is toxic. Clueless and lazy yes but certainly not toxic as far as I am aware 🤷♂️ I take it you didn't hear about the huge bust up over the world cup then? No. Go on.
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 15, 2023 9:18:29 GMT
I take it you didn't hear about the huge bust up over the world cup then? No. Go on. Usually such bust ups are not because they are squabbling about leadership and lack of fight in the club,probably that someone has been caught boning someone else's missus !
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 9:19:12 GMT
I take it you didn't hear about the huge bust up over the world cup then? No. Go on. See above mate.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 9:20:49 GMT
Usually such bust ups are not because they are squabbling about leadership and lack of fight in the club,probably that someone has been caught boning someone else's missus ! No idea why it happened, so wouldn't want to speculate.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 15, 2023 13:05:47 GMT
Relegation is never a good thing,even if you think it will be a reset to better times.
It only takes another poor season & you could find yourself in Div.2.
Then God forbid,you had better improve over the past 2/3 seasons or you could find yourself a none league club.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 15, 2023 13:13:03 GMT
I don't know the ins and outs of what happened but the authorities had to be called. Neil wasn't present but found out very quickly. Not prepared to say anything else because that's all I know. So you don't know anything then, you just come on and said did you not hear about the World Cup bust up and then leave it like that, user name is about right, throw the bait in and see what you catch, what a crock of shit
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 15, 2023 13:47:41 GMT
I don't know the ins and outs of what happened but the authorities had to be called. Neil wasn't present but found out very quickly. Not prepared to say anything else because that's all I know. So you don't know anything then, you just come on and said did you not hear about the World Cup bust up and then leave it like that, user name is about right, throw the bait in and see what you catch, what a crock of shit There was a bust up. Police were called to break it up. Not a crock of shit at all.
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Post by wrighter on Jan 15, 2023 13:50:21 GMT
Wish we still had Whelan / SJW/ Huth & Ryan in the dressing room
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Post by potterpaul on Jan 16, 2023 2:01:35 GMT
Wish we still had Whelan / SJW/ Huth & Ryan in the dressing room I'm not defending the current bunch of wasters we have now but you are suggesting things all went swimmingly with a previous bunch which isn't quite accurate is it.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 16, 2023 7:09:42 GMT
Wish we still had Whelan / SJW/ Huth & Ryan in the dressing room Wouldn't be much pace there now
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Post by Boothen on Jan 16, 2023 7:14:38 GMT
I've already resigned myself to the fact that we'll be playing League One football next season. That way, if by some miracle we do manage to scrape enough points to stay up then it's a little sprinkling of glitter on the turd.
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 16, 2023 7:50:57 GMT
You see a couple posts saying it, but anyone who ever advocates for dropping to League 1 for a ‘reset’ needs to fully understand the sheer damage that would cause the club. And we aren’t just talking a couple years or so, we’re talking potentially 10+ years till we ever get back into the championship.
And that implies we’d even stay up in League 1 with the chief of Clown World running the football club. It’ll get a lot worse than managerial recommendations from his mate down the local pub. Unfortunately, recent history has quite clearly shown that it is going to get a whole lot worse for us before it ever even attempts to get better.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 16, 2023 7:57:28 GMT
You see a couple posts saying it, but anyone who ever advocates for dropping to League 1 for a ‘reset’ needs to fully understand the sheer damage that would cause the club. And we aren’t just talking a couple years or so, we’re talking potentially 10+ years till we ever get back into the championship. And that implies we’d even stay up in League 1 with the chief of Clown World running the football club. It’ll get a lot worse than managerial recommendations from his mate down the local pub. Unfortunately, recent history has quite clearly shown that it is going to get a whole lot worse for us before it ever even attempts to get better. Can see the Coates office being stormed if this carries on. Get that family out the club. We are rotting.
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Post by Gods on Jan 16, 2023 8:01:48 GMT
Alex Neil needs to get a very big grip on this dressing room. Players don't fear failure, they show no pride whatsoever. I doubt it's a lack of discipline. More the case they don't much like him and they've quiet quit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 16, 2023 8:14:08 GMT
Alex Neil needs to get a very big grip on this dressing room. Players don't fear failure, they show no pride whatsoever. I doubt it's a lack of discipline. More the case they don't much like him and they've quiet quit. I still think they’re trying. They’re just not good enough and don’t fit any structure.
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Post by musik on Jan 16, 2023 8:43:08 GMT
I think we haven't scored in 4 of our latest 8 games at home. This one vs Reading is crucial.
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