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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 3, 2023 15:35:55 GMT
Coaches aren't meant to do much in a game are they? They are there to coach and that should take place in the week. Which begs the question Bayern....what the chuff do they coach during the week because it isn't working!
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Post by flea79 on Jan 3, 2023 15:40:35 GMT
heard some of his lockdown escapades, and they were not too impressive to say the least...
think it seems to be an attitude problem with him, bags of talent but not applying himself currently
its a shame as we looked great at points last year when he started firing and the lad on loan from Villa was in form too
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jan 3, 2023 15:42:28 GMT
Needs some serious weight training the little shrimp! Soz 10 men
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 3, 2023 15:49:15 GMT
Coaches aren't meant to do much in a game are they? They are there to coach and that should take place in the week. Which begs the question Bayern....what the chuff do they coach during the week because it isn't working! That I can't argue with No idea!
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Jan 3, 2023 16:00:24 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jan 3, 2023 16:00:24 GMT
Needs a loan to a 4th Division club. Rubbish He is no where near good enough at the moment.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 3, 2023 16:01:55 GMT
Right, wrong or indifferent, I see very little evidence of coaching going on. We keep making the same fundamental errors week after week. That goal we gave up in the last match sums it up. And we've not had a midfield who could defend in ages.
When AN arrived here, we were way out of condition. He was correct about that and I saw it. We couldn't string together 90 minutes in any of our matches for 5/6 years. Fitness has improved, but can't fathom why a squad was allowed to plod on out of shape like that previously with the number of coaches that we had on staff.
Were they THAT out of shape that just getting into match-fitness has dominated practice? Don't think I've ever seen a collection of "professionals" who are so one-footed, one dimensional, no situational awareness, incapable of passing forward, the first-touch of an anvil etc. etc.
We're talking clear-out, but I struggle to see where some of these players will be "wanted" by other teams.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 3, 2023 16:03:34 GMT
He is no where near good enough at the moment. That could go for most of our players,but they keep getting picked.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:27:27 GMT
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 3, 2023 16:27:27 GMT
He is no where near good enough at the moment. What and the players that started yesterday are. He’s not been given a decent chance for you to say he’s not good enough
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 3, 2023 16:30:11 GMT
Needs some serious weight training the little shrimp! That’s a bit uncalled for
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Post by nott1 on Jan 3, 2023 16:34:17 GMT
Needs some serious weight training the little shrimp! That’s a bit uncalled for Really? Perhaps a bit over the top but he is VERY lightweight and will never thrive in this division unless he toughens up!
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Jan 3, 2023 16:36:59 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jan 3, 2023 16:36:59 GMT
He is no where near good enough at the moment. What and the players that started yesterday are. He’s not been given a decent chance for you to say he’s not good enough Yes, I think he is less effective than they are, although that’s not saying much. He needs to test himself for six months in a competitive league at a lower level than the Championship. Should do him the world of good, boost his confidence and help him to cope with the physical side of the game.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 3, 2023 16:37:39 GMT
That’s a bit uncalled for Really? Perhaps a bit over the top but he is VERY lightweight and will never thrive in this division unless he toughens up! Just for curiosity how many minutes have you watched him this season to make that judgment. I’m sure messi was small and lightweight when he first took the world by storm. Dwp will only get stronger with minutes under his belt
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Post by nott1 on Jan 3, 2023 16:41:50 GMT
Really? Perhaps a bit over the top but he is VERY lightweight and will never thrive in this division unless he toughens up! Just for curiosity how many minutes have you watched him this season to make that judgment. I’m sure messi was small and lightweight when he first took the world by storm. Dwp will only get stronger with minutes under his belt Every minute and weight training will help him get stronger. He will never be as good as Messi, did you see the tremendous skill he had as a boy, fantastic? PS. First team only
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Post by march4 on Jan 3, 2023 16:44:06 GMT
Really? Perhaps a bit over the top but he is VERY lightweight and will never thrive in this division unless he toughens up! Just for curiosity how many minutes have you watched him this season to make that judgment. I’m sure messi was small and lightweight when he first took the world by storm. Dwp will only get stronger with minutes under his belt Messi has always been strong and difficult to knock off the ball as are other successful players who are not quite as tall - I’m thinking Suarez, Maradonna, Pele. SWP is skilful but doesn’t have the pace to cause defences real damage nor the strength to hold off defenders. I am advocating he gets those minutes you mention playing every game over the second half of the season in the 4th Division. The problem with the 3rd Division is he might not get so many minutes which is why I’m suggesting a level further down.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:47:39 GMT
Post by nott1 on Jan 3, 2023 16:47:39 GMT
Just for curiosity how many minutes have you watched him this season to make that judgment. I’m sure messi was small and lightweight when he first took the world by storm. Dwp will only get stronger with minutes under his belt Messi has always been strong and difficult to knock off the ball as are other successful players who are not quite as tall - I’m thinking Suarez, Maradonna, Pele. SWP is skilful but doesn’t have the pace to cause defences real damage nor the strength to hold off defenders. I am advocating he gets those minutes you mention playing every game over the second half of the season in the 4th Division. The problem with the 3rd Division is he might not get so many minutes which is why I’m suggesting a level further down. Hope he does make it, he has the family pedigree.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:51:38 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jan 3, 2023 16:51:38 GMT
Messi has always been strong and difficult to knock off the ball as are other successful players who are not quite as tall - I’m thinking Suarez, Maradonna, Pele. SWP is skilful but doesn’t have the pace to cause defences real damage nor the strength to hold off defenders. I am advocating he gets those minutes you mention playing every game over the second half of the season in the 4th Division. The problem with the 3rd Division is he might not get so many minutes which is why I’m suggesting a level further down. Hope he does make it, he has the family pedigree. Don’t we all. We just need to be careful with this stage of his career.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2023 18:27:37 GMT
Clucas most certainly was and on Friday night,sat in front of me on both occasions Fri he was but last night he wanted to go in a box. I sat next but one to Gayle both games. Clucas spent most of the evening moaning that he didn't have a box to go in on Friday. If he was there last night he must have got there early as he wasn't with the rest of the team walking out. Mate I don’t post stuff that’s not true,he was there definitely right in front of me and I also saw him arrive in his car
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Jan 3, 2023 18:43:39 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 3, 2023 18:43:39 GMT
Any idea where he’s gone? He was a shining light at parts before and now fallen off the face of the earth? Or is he just injured? I saw get off the bus at Rotherham,he seemed fine. If Neil is not going to play him, he should be sent out on loan and then for his sake, a decision should be made about his future.
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Post by skip on Jan 3, 2023 19:14:21 GMT
Really? Perhaps a bit over the top but he is VERY lightweight and will never thrive in this division unless he toughens up! Just for curiosity how many minutes have you watched him this season to make that judgment. I’m sure messi was small and lightweight when he first took the world by storm. Dwp will only get stronger with minutes under his belt Was going to mention Messi. Have a look at his physique at the same age. Ran rings around men a foot taller and half as wide again.
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Post by DC1863 on Jan 3, 2023 19:20:35 GMT
Heard Vale are trying to get him on loan.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jan 3, 2023 19:51:49 GMT
If Neil has indeed got very little pedigree in bringing through youth players then it says everything that is wrong with the club with complete lack of joined up thinking. Surely as owners you can’t spend a fortune on a youth academy, wax on about it for years and then just as you start to see some of the fruits appoint a manager who doesn’t have a record in converting those prospects?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2023 21:07:54 GMT
No needs to start loan some shit out not our better players From what I've seen he isn't one of our better players, he's had moments but still has a lot to learn.
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Post by stoke111 on Jan 3, 2023 21:20:20 GMT
Coaches aren't meant to do much in a game are they? They are there to coach and that should take place in the week. Which begs the question Bayern....what the chuff do they coach during the week because it isn't working! I’ve been saying this for years when at the match. You watch the subs “warming up” at HT and there’s no organised warm up routine it’s just pumping long balls to each other. You’d expect in an age of analytics and performance data a set warm up routine would be made which states exactly how much of each exercise a player does to ensure all targeted muscles are complete and thus the players are ready to play if/when needed. You see other teams looking so much more professional at HT and then coming out at HT. we just charge out and stand around getting cold while more well coached professional sides come out doing drills. It may be nothing but for me if you act a professional outfit you become a professional outfit. Instead we turn up like we are the dog and duck.
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 3, 2023 21:26:03 GMT
Which begs the question Bayern....what the chuff do they coach during the week because it isn't working! I’ve been saying this for years when at the match. You watch the subs “warming up” at HT and there’s no organised warm up routine it’s just pumping long balls to each other. You’d expect in an age of analytics and performance data a set warm up routine would be made which states exactly how much of each exercise a player does to ensure all targeted muscles are complete and thus the players are ready to play if/when needed. You see other teams looking so much more professional at HT and then coming out at HT. we just charge out and stand around getting cold while more well coached professional sides come out doing drills. It may be nothing but for me if you act a professional outfit you become a professional outfit. Instead we turn up like we are the dog and duck. Remind you of anything? 😂😂😂
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Post by peepin on Jan 3, 2023 21:34:19 GMT
Which begs the question Bayern....what the chuff do they coach during the week because it isn't working! I’ve been saying this for years when at the match. You watch the subs “warming up” at HT and there’s no organised warm up routine it’s just pumping long balls to each other. You’d expect in an age of analytics and performance data a set warm up routine would be made which states exactly how much of each exercise a player does to ensure all targeted muscles are complete and thus the players are ready to play if/when needed. You see other teams looking so much more professional at HT and then coming out at HT. we just charge out and stand around getting cold while more well coached professional sides come out doing drills. It may be nothing but for me if you act a professional outfit you become a professional outfit. Instead we turn up like we are the dog and duck. I couldn’t agree more, yesterdays ‘warm up’ of belting balls against Bursik and Fielding was about as tin pot as I’ve seen it in a long time. The opposition sets out cones and has well drilled exercises, where as we just give it a bit of belt about between ourselves. I suppose a bit like when I used to play for Blythe Tigers at lads & dads.
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Post by potterpaul on Jan 3, 2023 23:27:38 GMT
I don't see the point of loaning him out to a L1 team, that's about our level right now or getting very close.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 13, 2023 11:39:01 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 13, 2023 11:42:30 GMT
Coaches aren't meant to do much in a game are they? They are there to coach and that should take place in the week. Which begs the question Bayern....what the chuff do they coach during the week because it isn't working! How to take a throw-in? ...that would be a great place to start, preferably forward as well. As well as, how to move when a throw-in is being taken? 2 areas that have been neglected, amongst others of course.
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Post by lordb on Jan 13, 2023 12:26:28 GMT
big wide pitch would suit him
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2023 12:28:01 GMT
Fuck sending players to the Vale.
They play with a back 3 anyway so not sure why they'd want him.
They didn't Mccarron because they had their left side covered (its what every Vale fan I know said and I saw on the internet say). Don't make the same mistake.
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