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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 22, 2023 9:10:15 GMT
Stubborn, agenda, pig headed, ignorant, pathetic, short sighted, unable to think beyond a month in front of himself? Okaaaaay 😂 Some of those, such as stubborn, apply to all managers. Not sure what's pathetic about him but each to their own I guess.
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Post by RF10 on Feb 22, 2023 9:14:39 GMT
Stubborn, agenda, pig headed, ignorant, pathetic, short sighted, unable to think beyond a month in front of himself? Some of them are traits of the best managers ever and without them would not have been anywhere near as successful. Fergie especially. I very much doubt AN is shortsighted, he's literally dealing with a bunch of players he been handed with and trying to adapt to a system to suit best. He's already made reference in press conferences about his preferred system but that takes time.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 22, 2023 9:15:51 GMT
Stubborn, agenda, pig headed, ignorant, pathetic, short sighted, unable to think beyond a month in front of himself? Okaaaaay 😂 Some of those, such as stubborn, apply to all managers. Not sure what's pathetic about him but each to their own I guess. I thought Sportsman was talking about Ibby…😆
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 9:22:17 GMT
What an outstanding job AN is doing. He has sorted out our FFP worries and is now building a team who are clearly improving. Michael O'Neill sorted out the FFP issues march, by blooding and developing the two youngsters we have now sold on. He isn't building anything at present as we are on course for a total rebuild in the summer with less than 10 players left once contracts and loans have expired. Great result last night but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. The January business was a risk too far and a risk a club of our standing should not be taking and if it is a sign of things to come, then this will only be a temporary reprieve. The club needs to change it's ways. The club is changing its ways Neither O'Neill or Neil saved the club from ffp. The investment in the academy is what saved us. Talents like Souttar, Collins, Tezgel and Lowe can not be ignored and will ultimately break into the first team and/or be sold for profit. The huge difference between O'Neill and Neil is recruitment. O'Neill's was very hit and miss but so far Neil is proving to be much more reliable. Sterling excellent Sarkic excellent Pearson excellent Hoever improving and needed Celina not enough to go on Tuanzebe nothing to go on (and granted a gamble) For me Neil has earned the right to recruit in the summer and I have every confidence we will be a completely different proposition next season.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 22, 2023 9:31:30 GMT
What an outstanding job AN is doing. He has sorted out our FFP worries and is now building a team who are clearly improving. Michael O'Neill sorted out the FFP issues march, by blooding and developing the two youngsters we have now sold on. He isn't building anything at present as we are on course for a total rebuild in the summer with less than 10 players left once contracts and loans have expired. Great result last night but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. The January business was a risk too far and a risk a club of our standing should not be taking and if it is a sign of things to come, then this will only be a temporary reprieve. The club needs to change it's ways. Agree re MON but it has to be accepted that Neil was also constrained by FFP in January. I heard that we had to sell Bursik early in the window for a fairly modest price to ensure we didn't get a points penalty. I don't know what is expected other than loans as the Souttar sale went through too late for us to use the money. Even if we had known exactly who we wanted to spend that money on the chances of negotiating a transfer with players and their clubs in the remaining hours of the window were virtually nil. Nobody was going to enter into discussions with us on the basis that we had no money at the time but might have if Souttar went. We'd have been told to get our finances sorted and then come back with an offer. EDIT: I am no Alex Neil fan but won't criticise him for something he has no control over. He did really well to get any sort of cover in for Souttar.
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 22, 2023 10:07:53 GMT
Michael O'Neill sorted out the FFP issues march, by blooding and developing the two youngsters we have now sold on. He isn't building anything at present as we are on course for a total rebuild in the summer with less than 10 players left once contracts and loans have expired. Great result last night but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. The January business was a risk too far and a risk a club of our standing should not be taking and if it is a sign of things to come, then this will only be a temporary reprieve. The club needs to change it's ways. The club is changing its ways Neither O'Neill or Neil saved the club from ffp. The investment in the academy is what saved us. Talents like Souttar, Collins, Tezgel and Lowe can not be ignored and will ultimately break into the first team and/or be sold for profit. The huge difference between O'Neill and Neil is recruitment. O'Neill's was very hit and miss but so far Neil is proving to be much more reliable. Sterling excellent Sarkic excellent Pearson excellent Hoever improving and needed Celina not enough to go on Tuanzebe nothing to go on (and granted a gamble) For me Neil has earned the right to recruit in the summer and I have every confidence we will be a completely different proposition next season. Don't agree with all of that but fair points.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 22, 2023 10:19:28 GMT
What an outstanding job AN is doing. He has sorted out our FFP worries and is now building a team who are clearly improving. Michael O'Neill sorted out the FFP issues march, by blooding and developing the two youngsters we have now sold on. He isn't building anything at present as we are on course for a total rebuild in the summer with less than 10 players left once contracts and loans have expired. Great result last night but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. The January business was a risk too far and a risk a club of our standing should not be taking and if it is a sign of things to come, then this will only be a temporary reprieve. The club needs to change it's ways. He is improving players, reversing the trend of recent managers to make players worse - Fox, Wilmott, Laurent, Smallbone, Campbell have all improved as the season has gone on. And tactically he is our best manager since Hughes. Whatever the shape he has tactical nuances - he moved Laurent further forward after the first 10 minutes v Huddersfield - and he clearly had a specific plan for Swansea as discussed in his post-match interview. We have to give him the chance to show what he can do with his own players - Sarkic, Sterling, Hoover, Pearson and Tuanzebe suggest he has an eye for talent
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Post by sportsman on Feb 22, 2023 10:29:28 GMT
Stubborn, agenda, pig headed, ignorant, pathetic, short sighted, unable to think beyond a month in front of himself? Okaaaaay 😂 Some of those, such as stubborn, apply to all managers. Not sure what's pathetic about him but each to their own I guess. Sorry, my reply was meant at the original post saying he still wouldn't have him and you asked why.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 22, 2023 10:29:55 GMT
Okaaaaay 😂 Some of those, such as stubborn, apply to all managers. Not sure what's pathetic about him but each to their own I guess. I thought Sportsman was talking about Ibby…😆 Yes mate I was
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 22, 2023 11:36:38 GMT
Okaaaaay 😂 Some of those, such as stubborn, apply to all managers. Not sure what's pathetic about him but each to their own I guess. Sorry, my reply was meant at the original post saying he still wouldn't have him and you asked why. Sorry, that went straight over my head
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 22, 2023 11:54:05 GMT
"Almost play-off worthy" XG - and a 1% chance of the play-offs and 1% chance of relegation according to tachyon! The form, process-wise, does seem to have taken a decisive turn twitter.com/potterlytics
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 22, 2023 12:02:56 GMT
"Almost play-off worthy" XG - and a 1% chance of the play-offs and 1% chance of relegation according to tachyon! The form, process-wise, does seem to have taken a decisive turn twitter.com/potterlytics1% is all I need, getting my hotel booked for Wembley immediately.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 22, 2023 12:04:11 GMT
Michael O'Neill sorted out the FFP issues march, by blooding and developing the two youngsters we have now sold on. He isn't building anything at present as we are on course for a total rebuild in the summer with less than 10 players left once contracts and loans have expired. Great result last night but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. The January business was a risk too far and a risk a club of our standing should not be taking and if it is a sign of things to come, then this will only be a temporary reprieve. The club needs to change it's ways. He is improving players, reversing the trend of recent managers to make players worse - Fox, Wilmott, Laurent, Smallbone, Campbell have all improved as the season has gone on. And tactically he is our best manager since Hughes. Whatever the shape he has tactical nuances - he moved Laurent further forward after the first 10 minutes v Huddersfield - and he clearly had a specific plan for Swansea as discussed in his post-match interview. We have to give him the chance to show what he can do with his own players - Sarkic, Sterling, Hoover, Pearson and Tuanzebe suggest he has an eye for talent I think that Smallpiece is case in point - I thought he was utter gash for the first half of the season, and couldn't understand why he kept being picked. Well, AN kept picking him (obviously sees things we don't) and we're now reaping the rewards, he's arguably been MoM for 3 out of the last 4 games, and I'll actually be gutted if we can't sign him fully.
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Post by march4 on Feb 22, 2023 12:11:32 GMT
What an outstanding job AN is doing. He has sorted out our FFP worries and is now building a team who are clearly improving. Michael O'Neill sorted out the FFP issues march, by blooding and developing the two youngsters we have now sold on. He isn't building anything at present as we are on course for a total rebuild in the summer with less than 10 players left once contracts and loans have expired. Great result last night but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. The January business was a risk too far and a risk a club of our standing should not be taking and if it is a sign of things to come, then this will only be a temporary reprieve. The club needs to change it's ways. No it doesn’t. The club are on exactly the right lines and have an outstanding manager. Well done JC, a great appointment (about time I might add).
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 22, 2023 12:12:23 GMT
Tough one this. We’re still woefully inconsistent and the January window was to all intents and purposes, a shitshow (Not saying the players we bought in are bad, but when you can only use 5 of them at any one time it smacks of last minute thoughtless panicking). Some of his in-game decisions remain baffling but I think there are glimmers starting to shine through. This summer is the most important since we came down and gave Rowett the keys to the sweetie bowl and he proceeded to scran the lot and then shit himself with a maniacal grin in the corner. Neil deserves at least a summer window, but at the same time he’s been here 5 minutes and has the task of a complete rebuild on his hands and I don’t know if I’m fully comfortable with that idea just yet. If only we had the resources to appoint some football people to assist in this. January window a shitshow🤔. Limited by having to ship out existing pointless loans by former hapless manager, limited time to replace them. Enter Pearson , Sarkic (upgrades) and potential good cover in Axel T. Shitshow………..nah.
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Post by lordb on Feb 22, 2023 12:21:22 GMT
Tough one this. We’re still woefully inconsistent and the January window was to all intents and purposes, a shitshow (Not saying the players we bought in are bad, but when you can only use 5 of them at any one time it smacks of last minute thoughtless panicking). Some of his in-game decisions remain baffling but I think there are glimmers starting to shine through. This summer is the most important since we came down and gave Rowett the keys to the sweetie bowl and he proceeded to scran the lot and then shit himself with a maniacal grin in the corner. Neil deserves at least a summer window, but at the same time he’s been here 5 minutes and has the task of a complete rebuild on his hands and I don’t know if I’m fully comfortable with that idea just yet. If only we had the resources to appoint some football people to assist in this. Going to half agree half disagree re the January window So far all look good signings including to everyone's surprise Hoevre However having 7 loans when the max is 5 is stupid given there's usually an injury could forgive 6 but as it is we are having to leave at least one fit player out with kids on the bench who he doesn't appear ready to use. However give it a few weeks suspect we will see the kids get games
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Post by skip on Feb 22, 2023 12:22:44 GMT
I heard that we had to sell Bursik early in the window for a fairly modest price to ensure we didn't get a points penalty. I have an inkling that we had to sell Soutarr for the same reason. I don't think we'll see his transfer fee splurged in the Summer window but at least we haven't had points docked.
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Post by a on Feb 22, 2023 12:26:43 GMT
So now we’re Neil in? I can’t keep up! 😂
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 22, 2023 12:33:13 GMT
Hardly understand these charts,all I'm interested in,is the final score.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 12:40:12 GMT
So now we’re Neil in? I can’t keep up! 😂 Us football fans are a bunch of know nothing, fickle fuckers who will change our minds weekly depending on results, well 99.999999% of.us anyway. The other 0.01% is Bayern
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Post by a on Feb 22, 2023 12:42:13 GMT
So now we’re Neil in? I can’t keep up! 😂 Us football fans are a bunch of know nothing, fickle fuckers who will change our minds weekly depending on results, well 99.999999% of.us anyway. The other 0.01% is Bayern Absolutely 😂 Bayern just can’t admit to being wrong lol
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 22, 2023 13:21:07 GMT
"Almost play-off worthy" XG - and a 1% chance of the play-offs and 1% chance of relegation according to tachyon! The form, process-wise, does seem to have taken a decisive turn twitter.com/potterlyticsHow does that compare to the supercomputer predictions we have to have a face off…🥹
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 22, 2023 13:28:15 GMT
Tough one this. We’re still woefully inconsistent and the January window was to all intents and purposes, a shitshow (Not saying the players we bought in are bad, but when you can only use 5 of them at any one time it smacks of last minute thoughtless panicking). Some of his in-game decisions remain baffling but I think there are glimmers starting to shine through. This summer is the most important since we came down and gave Rowett the keys to the sweetie bowl and he proceeded to scran the lot and then shit himself with a maniacal grin in the corner. Neil deserves at least a summer window, but at the same time he’s been here 5 minutes and has the task of a complete rebuild on his hands and I don’t know if I’m fully comfortable with that idea just yet. If only we had the resources to appoint some football people to assist in this. Going to half agree half disagree re the January window So far all look good signings including to everyone's surprise Hoevre However having 7 loans when the max is 5 is stupid given there's usually an injury could forgive 6 but as it is we are having to leave at least one fit player out with kids on the bench who he doesn't appear ready to use. However give it a few weeks suspect we will see the kids get games I’m convinced Axel T will prove to be a mistake and I wonder how much of his 50k wages we are subbing, but all others loan signings look to be value adding so no complaints on the whole
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 22, 2023 13:29:09 GMT
Us football fans are a bunch of know nothing, fickle fuckers who will change our minds weekly depending on results, well 99.999999% of.us anyway. The other 0.01% is Bayern Absolutely 😂 Bayern just can’t admit to being wrong lol That's because he never is.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 22, 2023 13:51:48 GMT
Absolutely 😂 Bayern just can’t admit to being wrong lol That's because he never is.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 22, 2023 16:00:35 GMT
Going to half agree half disagree re the January window So far all look good signings including to everyone's surprise Hoevre However having 7 loans when the max is 5 is stupid given there's usually an injury could forgive 6 but as it is we are having to leave at least one fit player out with kids on the bench who he doesn't appear ready to use. However give it a few weeks suspect we will see the kids get games I’m convinced Axel T will prove to be a mistake and I wonder how much of his 50k wages we are subbing, but all others loan signings look to be value adding so no complaints on the whole Not a large proportion you’d hope given his fitness issues. Playing only 2 CB alleviates the situation somewhat.
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Post by ceejays on Feb 25, 2023 8:16:41 GMT
He is improving players, reversing the trend of recent managers to make players worse - Fox, Wilmott, Laurent, Smallbone, Campbell have all improved as the season has gone on. And tactically he is our best manager since Hughes. Whatever the shape he has tactical nuances - he moved Laurent further forward after the first 10 minutes v Huddersfield - and he clearly had a specific plan for Swansea as discussed in his post-match interview. We have to give him the chance to show what he can do with his own players - Sarkic, Sterling, Hoover, Pearson and Tuanzebe suggest he has an eye for talent I think that Smallpiece is case in point - I thought he was utter gash for the first half of the season, and couldn't understand why he kept being picked. Well, AN kept picking him (obviously sees things we don't) and we're now reaping the rewards, he's arguably been MoM for 3 out of the last 4 games, and I'll actually be gutted if we can't sign him fully. Smallbone has never been gash. This was a classic case of someone saying so and the trolls joined the feeding frenzy . Take the Luton match where he was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch but this board said he was rubbish . People ( or shall I say someone) with an agenda who can’t read a football match for toffee.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 25, 2023 8:19:45 GMT
I think that Smallpiece is case in point - I thought he was utter gash for the first half of the season, and couldn't understand why he kept being picked. Well, AN kept picking him (obviously sees things we don't) and we're now reaping the rewards, he's arguably been MoM for 3 out of the last 4 games, and I'll actually be gutted if we can't sign him fully. Smallbone has never been gash. This was a classic case of someone saying so and the trolls joined the feeding frenzy . Take the Luton match where he was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch but this board said he was rubbish . People ( or shall I say someone) with an agenda who can’t read a football match for toffee. Nonsense he has been awful in some games this season. He’s also been great. Let’s not pretend otherwise now that he’s consistently better.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 25, 2023 8:39:48 GMT
I think that Smallpiece is case in point - I thought he was utter gash for the first half of the season, and couldn't understand why he kept being picked. Well, AN kept picking him (obviously sees things we don't) and we're now reaping the rewards, he's arguably been MoM for 3 out of the last 4 games, and I'll actually be gutted if we can't sign him fully. Smallbone has never been gash. This was a classic case of someone saying so and the trolls joined the feeding frenzy . Take the Luton match where he was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch but this board said he was rubbish . People ( or shall I say someone) with an agenda who can’t read a football match for toffee. Haha he’s been terrible every game I’ve been to live this season.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Feb 25, 2023 8:41:59 GMT
Smallbone has never been gash. This was a classic case of someone saying so and the trolls joined the feeding frenzy . Take the Luton match where he was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch but this board said he was rubbish . People ( or shall I say someone) with an agenda who can’t read a football match for toffee. Nonsense he has been awful in some games this season. He’s also been great. Let’s not pretend otherwise now that he’s consistently better. For me he’s being consistently better at being meh. Just not my type of player. Slow, poor physicality, unambitious with the ball. I’ve not been won over.
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