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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 1, 2022 11:11:43 GMT
It certainly looks like (currently) us having a young and relatively inexperienced match day squad.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 1, 2022 11:12:23 GMT
Think we need a pool of four for those deeper midfield roles. I’m losing track of who we’ve got, potentially him, Baker, Laurent and Thompson? Clucas too. Clucas definitely off then and throws a question mark over Sawyers coming back. Yeah, would imagine so on both counts. We could still do with a creative alternative to Powell in the attacking midfield role but wouldn’t be surprised if he used Baker or Laurent for that. I’d be a bit disappointed if that was the plan but could very much see it being MON’s way.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 1, 2022 11:16:24 GMT
Never heard of him. Marvellous. Sounds ideal.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 1, 2022 11:16:33 GMT
It certainly looks like (currently) us having a young and relatively inexperienced match day squad. Think for the most part our first choice XI will be fairly experienced at this level.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 1, 2022 11:17:56 GMT
With all these potential new squad players, it looks as though I'm going to be watching the early matches next season and thinking "who the hell is that!"
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2022 11:19:47 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland.
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Post by pushon on Jul 1, 2022 11:22:39 GMT
Never heard of him. Marvellous. Sounds ideal. Could be your new Joe Allen, similar sized.
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Post by lordb on Jul 1, 2022 11:24:14 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland. ticking a lot of boxes apart from the 'big beast' box that so many hanker for (perhaps rightly?) still we are unlikely to be signing players who have everything you could possibly want , on paper this seems a good signing, lets see him play next
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 11:24:35 GMT
Was a Villa player linked on loan as well. Midfielder, England U19 international saw somewhere this morning.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2022 11:25:52 GMT
Was a Villa player linked on loan as well. Midfielder, England U19 international saw somewhere this morning. Yeah, would think this one kills that link stone dead now though?
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 1, 2022 11:26:07 GMT
I’m losing track of who we’ve got, potentially him, Baker, Laurent and Thompson? Clucas too. Clucas definitely off then and throws a question mark over Sawyers coming back. We'll be doing everything in our power to shift Fox and Clucas I'm sure, whether there is any takers is another story....... I imagine it will be a loan to a Preston/Millwall where we'll get bummed on the percentages.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 11:26:38 GMT
Was a Villa player linked on loan as well. Midfielder, England U19 international saw somewhere this morning. Yeah, would think this one kills that link stone dead now though? Prob think so. Would rather the Irish Gattuso
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 1, 2022 11:29:59 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland. I remember him now as the one who got booked early doors for the soft pull back on Powell I think. I remember thinking he was a decent little player despite being hampered by that early yellow.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 1, 2022 11:30:07 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland. ticking a lot of boxes apart from the 'big beast' box that so many hanker for (perhaps rightly?) still we are unlikely to be signing players who have everything you could possibly want , on paper this seems a good signing, lets see him play next Yeah - very much in keeping with MON's previous statements about what he thinks is required in a deeper midfielder - and that's not a destroyer, by the looks of it
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Post by garthcrooks007 on Jul 1, 2022 11:31:30 GMT
It certainly looks like (currently) us having a young and relatively inexperienced match day squad. 'You can't win anything with kids'
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 1, 2022 11:31:47 GMT
Never heard of him. Marvellous. Sounds ideal. Could be your new Joe Allen, similar sized. He doesn’t sound shit though?
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 1, 2022 11:34:47 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland. ticking a lot of boxes apart from the 'big beast' box that so many hanker for (perhaps rightly?) still we are unlikely to be signing players who have everything you could possibly want , on paper this seems a good signing, lets see him play next Kante and Makalele two players synonymous with the defensive midfield role. I’ve had bigger shits than both of them
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Post by lordb on Jul 1, 2022 11:38:14 GMT
ticking a lot of boxes apart from the 'big beast' box that so many hanker for (perhaps rightly?) still we are unlikely to be signing players who have everything you could possibly want , on paper this seems a good signing, lets see him play next Kante and Makalele two players synonymous with the defensive midfield role. I’ve had bigger shits than both of them morning after Sangams?
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 1, 2022 11:40:03 GMT
5 foot 7. Flint and Souttar are going to look like Andre the Giant when the teams line up before the game.
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Post by RF10 on Jul 1, 2022 11:44:21 GMT
All signings are the right direction. Going go in early and say we will make play offs.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 1, 2022 11:48:10 GMT
Can’t say I noticed him didn’t stand out but that means nothing with a DM. What sort of size is he? Small - same sort of size as Allen. But from memory was a good metronomic presence and had a welcome bit of niggle and needle as well. Like Ryan woods
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 12:15:09 GMT
Small - same sort of size as Allen. But from memory was a good metronomic presence and had a welcome bit of niggle and needle as well. Like Ryan woods Accurate passer with good range so nothing like Ryan 'the crab' Woods
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 1, 2022 12:18:47 GMT
Can’t say I noticed him didn’t stand out but that means nothing with a DM. What sort of size is he? Small - same sort of size as Allen. But from memory was a good metronomic presence and had a welcome bit of niggle and needle as well. 🙄
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 1, 2022 13:41:54 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland. ticking a lot of boxes apart from the 'big beast' box that so many hanker for (perhaps rightly?) still we are unlikely to be signing players who have everything you could possibly want , on paper this seems a good signing, lets see him play next Definitely not the attributes I’ve been wanting to read about, just have to see how it goes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 1, 2022 13:42:00 GMT
Small - same sort of size as Allen. But from memory was a good metronomic presence and had a welcome bit of niggle and needle as well. Like Ryan woods There are marshmallows that have more niggle than that wimp.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 1, 2022 13:54:54 GMT
Nice but it’s still all going to rest on the forward signings presumably bournemouth taking some of the strain with this one
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Post by Goonie on Jul 1, 2022 13:56:23 GMT
OMG! We've signed Kilkenny! You bastards! 😁
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Post by Goonie on Jul 1, 2022 13:57:19 GMT
OMG! We've signed Kilkenny! You bastards! 😁 Oatckae mixed response!
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Post by march4 on Jul 1, 2022 14:13:23 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland. ‘Gentle in his approach’ Hmmmmm. Next.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 1, 2022 14:15:51 GMT
Bournemouth local reporter from last October... www.balls.ie/football/gavin-kilkenny-ireland-star-489347I was surprised. I used to play in the academy, and I never played with Kilkenny because I wasn't in the same age group, but I had heard about him. I always thought of him as more of an attacking player, I saw him play left wing or number ten a couple of times. When I saw he was playing as a holding midfielder in pre-season I thought there could be issues there initially. I was surprised, but as soon as I saw him all those doubts were settled... I tweeted about it in the very first game. I looked at Kilkenny and thought 'you are the perfect Scott Parker midfielder'. He can keep the ball, dictate the tempo, has that 60-yard pass in him. He is playing in that deep lying midfield position, he has time to look up and the game is being played in front of him, I think that suits his skillset so well. Since he has come back into the team he has actually picked up two yellow cards in three games. He has a little bit more aggression. That was an issue initially, I remember a game at Nottingham Forest where there was an issue defending counterattacks and Kilkenny was struggling. I think since he has come back in he has been a bit more robust, making those fouls. Against Stoke he got booked in the first few minutes for a pull back, those are fouls that are quietly important in that position. Obviously he is nowhere near that level, but he is in that sort of Jorginho mould. He's not the type of guy that is going to break it up or roam around and crash into tackles, he will be quite gentle in his approach. He will regulate the tempo and he is a very accurate passer. There were a few times in the first few games where he gave away the ball, but in the last three games it has been short passes and not giving it away. He plays the type of passes that are perfect in that position. I think you need to get him in. You would know the Republic of Ireland squad a lot better than me, but I think with Kilkenny you have a player that performs better the greater level he goes to. In the games against lesser sides he kind of just carries on, but against better teams with a quicker tempo it perfectly suits him... I think it might take a little bit of time for him to settle into that (3-4-3 or 3-4-2-1) formation. I'm not sure how he is playing in a holding two, but I do think he would be a player of massive worth to Ireland. ‘Gentle in his approach’ Hmmmmm. Next. It’s just not what you want to hear is it.
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