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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 9, 2022 16:09:38 GMT
Similar how? Cort was much younger and one of the first players we broke the £1m barrier for He was/is similar in his goal threat,his height and both probably lack a little with the ball at their feet. Yes I’ll give you Flint is 2/3 years older than when we signed Cort(who was 29) but Flint also went to Boro from Bristol City for a few of around £7 million Imbula went from Porto to Stoke for 18m, it doesn't mean shit really?
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2022 16:18:53 GMT
Hes 6ft 6 and averages a goal ever 6 or 7 games. That's better than pretty much all of our squad. I'm not overly arsed at what his "progressive passing" stats are, nor his ability to bring it out from the back. Sign the fucker up. And stick the ball on his noggin. Chester out / Flint in = improvement. Stick him upfront
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 9, 2022 16:19:17 GMT
Yeah but that was a time when we by and large had a plan and stuck to it... Yes I agree with that and let’s hope O’Neill has a similar plan to get the best out of the players he signs along with the injured players coming back We can hope but it there's not a lot to base it on at the moment.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 9, 2022 16:22:09 GMT
You obviously weren’t at Liverpool in the 1st premier league season then🤔he was outstanding that day I certainly was and the whole defence was bloody brilliant that day Generally thiugh I didnt rate him as a defender Agree on your 1st point mate but on the 2nd one it takes all sorts of different players to make a good team and not just ‘names’.Who’d have thought that team Pulis put together would have got us promoted?but with the maverick that was Fuller and keeping it tight at the back plus Delap’s missiles it worked.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 9, 2022 16:30:09 GMT
I certainly was and the whole defence was bloody brilliant that day Generally thiugh I didnt rate him as a defender Agree on your 1st point mate but on the 2nd one it takes all sorts of different players to make a good team and not just ‘names’.Who’d have thought that team Pulis put together would have got us promoted?but with the maverick that was Fuller and keeping it tight at the back plus Delap’s missiles it worked. Very true mate and he ultimately played his part in getting us to the promised land
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 9, 2022 17:56:25 GMT
A few years ago, I bemoaned the fact that Flint had signed for Middlesborough and that we didn't seem to be in for him.
That move to Boro was a bit of a disaster for him and he doesn't seem to have torn up any trees at Cardiff.
It just seems strange that we are in for him given the resources we already have in that position and if these links are true, it seems unlikely we'll see the end of a back 3 any time soon which is mildly disappointing at the very least.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jun 9, 2022 18:14:05 GMT
I certainly was and the whole defence was bloody brilliant that day Generally thiugh I didnt rate him as a defender Agree on your 1st point mate but on the 2nd one it takes all sorts of different players to make a good team and not just ‘names’.Who’d have thought that team Pulis put together would have got us promoted?but with the maverick that was Fuller and keeping it tight at the back plus Delap’s missiles it worked. However, we aren't tight at the back, we don't have a long throw and we don't have a Fuller
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Post by biglad180 on Jun 9, 2022 18:36:55 GMT
We don't want to go down the road of signing old has been again.I would rather us give Conner Taylor a chance.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Jun 9, 2022 18:45:50 GMT
So my mate reckons he’s got a minimum of one costly mistake in him per game at Cardiff.
This’ll be fun, right?
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 9, 2022 19:04:02 GMT
I guess he will soon be Our Man Flint, to quote James Coburn 😉🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 19:50:21 GMT
I guess he will soon be Our Man Flint, to quote James Coburn 😉🤣 In like Flint if he signs. Cheesy but loved them. We concede too many from set pieces and don't score enough. What we need. Flint not James Coburn
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 9, 2022 20:22:03 GMT
So my mate reckons he’s got a minimum of one costly mistake in him per game at Cardiff. This’ll be fun, right? Sounds like 99% of every defender in the championship. They all make mistakes, hence the reason why they play at the level they do.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Jun 9, 2022 20:48:34 GMT
So my mate reckons he’s got a minimum of one costly mistake in him per game at Cardiff. This’ll be fun, right? Sounds like 99% of every defender in the championship. They all make mistakes, hence the reason why they play at the level they do. They do yeah. But you’d hope there’d be some occasions whereby he doesn’t. By the sounds of it, he’s a walking catastrophe more often than not. I thought we’d seen the last of that with Chester gone, but apparently not. Fantastic.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 9, 2022 20:52:09 GMT
Sounds like 99% of every defender in the championship. They all make mistakes, hence the reason why they play at the level they do. They do yeah. But you’d hope there’d be some occasions whereby he doesn’t. By the sounds of it, he’s a walking catastrophe more often than not. I thought we’d seen the last of that with Chester gone, but apparently not. Fantastic. I think Chester was very harshly treated by some of our supporters. For a free transfer I thought he was fine, albeit clearly past his best.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Jun 9, 2022 21:26:42 GMT
They do yeah. But you’d hope there’d be some occasions whereby he doesn’t. By the sounds of it, he’s a walking catastrophe more often than not. I thought we’d seen the last of that with Chester gone, but apparently not. Fantastic. I think Chester was very harshly treated by some of our supporters. For a free transfer I thought he was fine, albeit clearly past his best. I’ll be honest, I never particularly trusted him. He was ok those first 6 months on loan so I can see why we gave him a contract. But that was about as good as he got. After that he was a bit of a trainwreck (albeit with what was quite a good record wasn’t it initially?).
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Post by Goonie on Jun 9, 2022 22:12:30 GMT
Has a strong look reminiscent of Johnathon 'Living Dead' Woodgate
Do that's the right back position sorted 🤣
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Post by Gods on Jun 9, 2022 22:28:18 GMT
I must admit I've never heard of him. I just looked him up on wiki, he's about nine foot seven and covered in tatoos. I've no idea if he is any good at football but I would imagine not. However if we just want a big lump to put alongside Souttar, if he makes it back from a very serious knee injury, then I suppose he could be our man. This is the chap...
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Post by cousindupree on Jun 10, 2022 6:27:25 GMT
As someone else said above i was impressed with him when he went to Boro for 7m but that was 4 years ago. Now he seems to be just a slightly older Danny Baath with a body bizarelly covered with Tats. Is this the best the recruitment team can up with? Sound of barrel scraping
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 10, 2022 6:51:59 GMT
The way this works at Stoke city is the recruitment team say we have never heard of him but Dean says he’s a good egg , we sign him on a three year deal and Dean get’s the Blackpool job the following day
Taylor and Forrester are loaned out to promotion winning teams
Flint turns up for pre season and Michael asks him where he plays , Michael then gives an interview and says we haven’t go the players to play any other way
Andy Cousins tells Michael i told Dean he wasn’t what we needed
In January Flint is loaned to Blackpool after three starts at full back and 15 sub appearances , he goes on to be a star in there surge up the table in a solid 442 scoring the winning goal from a set piece in the play off final to make in 10 in 20 for the season just beating the combined total of brown and Campbell for SCFC
personally I’ve no problem signing him if he’s a warrior its what we desperately need in the squad power pace and resilience and he seems to have the first and the last but it’s down to the manager to find a system that’s suits the a players and makes us better at both ends fo the pitch and with which the players are comfortable
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jun 10, 2022 7:30:03 GMT
The way this works at Stoke city is the recruitment team say we have never heard of him but Dean says he’s a good egg , we sign him on a three year deal and Dean get’s the Blackpool job the following day Taylor and Forrester are loaned out to promotion winning teams Flint turns up for pre season and Michael asks him where he plays , Michael then gives an interview and says we haven’t go the players to play any other way Andy Cousins tells Michael i told Dean he wasn’t what we needed In January Flint is loaned to Blackpool after three starts at full back and 15 sub appearances , he goes on to be a star in there surge up the table in a solid 442 scoring the winning goal from a set piece in the play off final to make in 10 in 20 for the season just beating the combined total of brown and Campbell for SCFC personally I’ve no problem signing him if he’s a warrior its what we desperately need in the squad power pace and resilience and he seems to have the first and the last but it’s down to the manager to find a system that’s suits the a players and makes us better at both ends fo the pitch and with which the players are comfortable Bloody hell Benji, have you discovered spell checker!
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Post by etebojan on Jun 10, 2022 8:40:56 GMT
Stoke making Flint signing announcement this afternoon do we think? It's a Friday after all.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 10, 2022 8:57:45 GMT
Flint, Baath, just a chip off the old block.
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Post by xchpotter on Jun 10, 2022 9:00:46 GMT
The way this works at Stoke city is the recruitment team say we have never heard of him but Dean says he’s a good egg , we sign him on a three year deal and Dean get’s the Blackpool job the following day Taylor and Forrester are loaned out to promotion winning teams Flint turns up for pre season and Michael asks him where he plays , Michael then gives an interview and says we haven’t go the players to play any other way Andy Cousins tells Michael i told Dean he wasn’t what we needed In January Flint is loaned to Blackpool after three starts at full back and 15 sub appearances , he goes on to be a star in there surge up the table in a solid 442 scoring the winning goal from a set piece in the play off final to make in 10 in 20 for the season just beating the combined total of brown and Campbell for SCFC personally I’ve no problem signing him if he’s a warrior its what we desperately need in the squad power pace and resilience and he seems to have the first and the last but it’s down to the manager to find a system that’s suits the a players and makes us better at both ends fo the pitch and with which the players are comfortable Many a true word is spoken in jest 😂
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Post by tachyon on Jun 10, 2022 9:12:11 GMT
He's got an hilarious shot map, nearly every Championship goal he's scored has been in or immediately around the six yard box. Orange blob is where his goals were scored from. 0.13 xG/90, which is decent for a defender. 0.12 xG per attempt, which are also reasonable high quality chances. 77% of his chances come from set pieces or corners and 72% are headers. Defensively, he's a very good "blocks, clearances (in the air obviously) and interceptions" type of defender. Passing isn't a strength. Tends to go long and get rid, not the best knocking it around in his own half, but doesn't try to. The "got a mistake in him" narrative that the usuals have jumped all over, is typical fan hyperbole. He's made a mistake that's led directly to a goal once every 52 full games & he's given away a penalty once every 70 full games. Plays centre right of a back 4. He's 33 in a month, but defenders have an ageing curve than peaks later than other positions. We ranked him in the top five for Championship central defenders in 202122.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 10, 2022 9:19:47 GMT
Flint could provide the spark we need.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Jun 10, 2022 9:21:38 GMT
Centre Half is a funny position. I always thought Wes Morgan was a hopeless footballer, and a disaster waiting to happen, but then he marshalled that Leicester back line to the title and was absolutely outstanding well into his thirties!
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Post by mowlee on Jun 10, 2022 9:28:06 GMT
Centre Half is a funny position. I always thought Wes Morgan was a hopeless footballer, and a disaster waiting to happen, but then he marshalled that Leicester back line to the title and was absolutely outstanding well into his thirties! Wes Morgan marshalled Leicester too the title 😂😂😂😂 fucking hell that’s made my day hahahahahahah just forget the rest of the team an huth then fella hahahahahah that’s a good one that one
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 10, 2022 9:28:21 GMT
He's got an hilarious shot map, nearly every Championship goal he's scored has been in or immediately around the six yard box. Orange blob is where his goals were scored from. View Attachment0.13 xG/90, which is decent for a defender. 0.12 xG per attempt, which are also reasonable high quality chances. 77% of his chances come from set pieces or corners and 72% are headers. Defensively, he's a very good "blocks, clearances (in the air obviously) and interceptions" type of defender. Passing isn't a strength. Tends to go long and get rid, not the best knocking it around in his own half, but doesn't try to. The "got a mistake in him" narrative that the usuals have jumped all over, is typical fan hyperbole. He's made a mistake that's led directly to a goal once every 52 full games & he's given away a penalty once every 70 full games. Plays centre right of a back 4. He's 33 in a month, but defenders have an ageing curve than peaks later than other positions. We ranked him in the top five for Championship central defenders in 202122. Slightly more positive outlook and maybe as someone has already mentioned this signing does have something to do with MON mentioning lack of experience & physicality at times last season. Would appear he'd be utilised only in a back 4 or in the absence for Soutts or Jags in a 3. Does this mean we are shifting more towards a back 4 or does MON merely want to cover all the bases with that as an option.
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Post by mowlee on Jun 10, 2022 9:29:57 GMT
Flint could provide the spark we need. the spark hahaha the turn of a oil tanker will give us a spark alright
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 10, 2022 9:31:44 GMT
He's going to win his headers and make his blocks
But the change from playing in a team that doesn't value possession at all (one of the lowest in the league), and presumably sat pretty deep in a bit of an old-fashioned way, to a team that has (until now) tried to play it out from the back is still going to be an issue, you'd think.
Batth never really looked at home, and neither did the team with him there.
Suppose it all depends how we intend to set up next year, and how much he'll be used. On paper, he'd maybe be no.4 behind a fit Souttar, Jagielka and Wilmot in any back 4 pecking order?
(But would he have come if that was the case, who knows?. We'll never know how many other options he had)
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