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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 5, 2022 21:20:40 GMT
If the powers that be, made us play in the 1st Div. Next season with these players I would'nt bet on us finishing in the top 8.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 5, 2022 21:24:29 GMT
This is a repeat of last season isn't it, yet the happy clappers will be along soon to tell us everything will miraculously be different next season. No injuries, no poor ref decisions, the right new signings, no player errors, better game management. Who the hell are they kidding ? We're stinking the place out week after week with this manager in charge. MON OUT ! Is it possible to “like” twice?
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 5, 2022 21:38:31 GMT
Awful awful performance, that looked like a team about to be relegated. Reading are toss but they were still far too good for us.. That sort of performance gets managers the sack. Players unable to do basic stuff. Game were you watching… Battered them second half, been story of the season, blow chances and dominate large spells but lose by one goal again after poor mistakes. Good lord.
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Post by caine on Apr 5, 2022 21:44:14 GMT
Game were you watching… Battered them second half, been story of the season, blow chances and dominate large spells but lose by one goal again after poor mistakes. Good lord. Dropped points in what 15 games from winning positions now and only lost one game all season by more than one goal… I ain’t saying we are playing well but it’s the same story every week which is what I said. Can’t believe I had to explain that 🙈
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Post by ilikelamp on Apr 5, 2022 21:54:39 GMT
“ It was disappointing Thomas couldn't play. The two clubs could uhave agreed. It would've been nice if Stoke had done us a favour. They refused to do that. Which is disappointing, very disappointing.”
Is Paul ince for real? No clubs let loan players play against their parent team, it’s very very rare. Tool
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Post by callas12 on Apr 5, 2022 21:58:32 GMT
Be an interesting conversation in the Coate's helicopter on the way back north tonight! Plenty of what if's & maybe's again I'm sure..
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 5, 2022 22:03:10 GMT
Dropped points in what 15 games from winning positions now and only lost one game all season by more than one goal… I ain’t saying we are playing well but it’s the same story every week which is what I said. Can’t believe I had to explain that 🙈 I had to catch my breath at the word 'battered', to be honest. As I said earlier, making excuses and looking for positives when there are none, people simply get what they deserve. You don't 'unluckily' finish 15th or 16th after a season full of 'if onlys'. We're rancid. A poorly-assembled squad, with a manager who's simply out of his depth, at this level of club football. If we get out of this god-forsaken league under this manager, it'll be through the bottom end, not the top. This only ends one way, and we'll part company with MON at some point. Why we'd choose to prolong the inevitable, I'm not quite sure.
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Post by sheds1862 on Apr 5, 2022 22:20:33 GMT
Comes to something when a few people are seeing the shining light that Derby are as good as gone. They were pretty much down from day one and have given it a real go.
As for ourselves...well an embarrassing season. More bothered about our inadequacy than showing delight about Derby .
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 5, 2022 22:21:25 GMT
Just seen 561 Stokies reported on Twitter, fair play to every one of them…..
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 5, 2022 22:22:45 GMT
Comes to something when a few people are seeing the shining light that Derby are as good as gone. They were pretty much down from day one and have given it a real go. As for ourselves...well an embarrassing season. More bothered about our inadequacy than showing delight about Derby . They'd be 3pts off us with the 21pts back, having played all season with a tiny squad, containing a number of kids.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Apr 5, 2022 22:34:59 GMT
In MON we trust we have a turnip.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 5, 2022 23:50:14 GMT
Dropped points in what 15 games from winning positions now and only lost one game all season by more than one goal… I ain’t saying we are playing well but it’s the same story every week which is what I said. Can’t believe I had to explain that 🙈 I had to catch my breath at the word 'battered', to be honest. As I said earlier, making excuses and looking for positives when there are none, people simply get what they deserve. You don't 'unluckily' finish 15th or 16th after a season full of 'if onlys'. We're rancid. A poorly-assembled squad, with a manager who's simply out of his depth, at this level of club football. If we get out of this god-forsaken league under this manager, it'll be through the bottom end, not the top. This only ends one way, and we'll part company with MON at some point. Why we'd choose to prolong the inevitable, I'm not quite sure. The longer he stays the worse it'll get. Maybe part of it is he feels his job is ultra safe so he's not motivated as he's on 'Easy Street'? I actually think managers being too close to the owners can be detrimental as it may cloud their judgement- they're not supposed to be pals
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Post by thevoid on Apr 5, 2022 23:54:08 GMT
Dropped points in what 15 games from winning positions now and only lost one game all season by more than one goal… I ain’t saying we are playing well but it’s the same story every week which is what I said. Can’t believe I had to explain that 🙈 Better to lose five games 0-2 or 1-3 than 10 games 0-1 or 1-2 How many times have we scored more than twice this season?
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Post by caine on Apr 6, 2022 4:24:31 GMT
Dropped points in what 15 games from winning positions now and only lost one game all season by more than one goal… I ain’t saying we are playing well but it’s the same story every week which is what I said. Can’t believe I had to explain that 🙈 I had to catch my breath at the word 'battered', to be honest. As I said earlier, making excuses and looking for positives when there are none, people simply get what they deserve. You don't 'unluckily' finish 15th or 16th after a season full of 'if onlys'. We're rancid. A poorly-assembled squad, with a manager who's simply out of his depth, at this level of club football. If we get out of this god-forsaken league under this manager, it'll be through the bottom end, not the top. This only ends one way, and we'll part company with MON at some point. Why we'd choose to prolong the inevitable, I'm not quite sure. Ok but we did dominate that second half and play some ok stuff wasn’t a terrible performance but I understand this season has been a farce. Not sure how he’s deserving of a another season but we can’t keep blaming mangers I guess…
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 6, 2022 4:52:31 GMT
I had to catch my breath at the word 'battered', to be honest. As I said earlier, making excuses and looking for positives when there are none, people simply get what they deserve. You don't 'unluckily' finish 15th or 16th after a season full of 'if onlys'. We're rancid. A poorly-assembled squad, with a manager who's simply out of his depth, at this level of club football. If we get out of this god-forsaken league under this manager, it'll be through the bottom end, not the top. This only ends one way, and we'll part company with MON at some point. Why we'd choose to prolong the inevitable, I'm not quite sure. Ok but we did dominate that second half and play some ok stuff wasn’t a terrible performance but I understand this season has been a farce. Not sure how he’s deserving of a another season but we can’t keep blaming mangers I guess… Only this season been a farce have you forgotten last season 😉
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 6, 2022 4:52:45 GMT
I had to catch my breath at the word 'battered', to be honest. As I said earlier, making excuses and looking for positives when there are none, people simply get what they deserve. You don't 'unluckily' finish 15th or 16th after a season full of 'if onlys'. We're rancid. A poorly-assembled squad, with a manager who's simply out of his depth, at this level of club football. If we get out of this god-forsaken league under this manager, it'll be through the bottom end, not the top. This only ends one way, and we'll part company with MON at some point. Why we'd choose to prolong the inevitable, I'm not quite sure. Ok but we did dominate that second half and play some ok stuff wasn’t a terrible performance but I understand this season has been a farce. Not sure how he’s deserving of a another season but we can’t keep blaming mangers I guess… Only this season been a farce have you forgotten last season 😉
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Post by stokie1947 on Apr 6, 2022 5:17:42 GMT
also next season with MON in charge
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2022 7:44:40 GMT
I had to catch my breath at the word 'battered', to be honest. As I said earlier, making excuses and looking for positives when there are none, people simply get what they deserve. You don't 'unluckily' finish 15th or 16th after a season full of 'if onlys'. We're rancid. A poorly-assembled squad, with a manager who's simply out of his depth, at this level of club football. If we get out of this god-forsaken league under this manager, it'll be through the bottom end, not the top. This only ends one way, and we'll part company with MON at some point. Why we'd choose to prolong the inevitable, I'm not quite sure. Ok but we did dominate that second half and play some ok stuff wasn’t a terrible performance but I understand this season has been a farce. Not sure how he’s deserving of a another season but we can’t keep blaming mangers I guess… You can it that's the brand of football they dish out.
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Post by felonious on Apr 6, 2022 8:06:27 GMT
After the last two games OG needs to keep his place
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Post by caine on Apr 6, 2022 8:30:03 GMT
Ok but we did dominate that second half and play some ok stuff wasn’t a terrible performance but I understand this season has been a farce. Not sure how he’s deserving of a another season but we can’t keep blaming mangers I guess… You can it that's the brand of football they dish out. So who do we blame, jones and rowett have left and done well and jones was by far the worst manager we have had. Some blame has to put on the players but this squad is better than last season. For me the only positives are the kids we have coming through and baker. We can improve but I ain’t sure if we will under MON.
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Post by shooters on Apr 6, 2022 10:02:13 GMT
not the best outing for WP and getting yanked by MON before 65 minutes says a lot. He was lucky to last that long as he went ballistic at him in the first 5 mins. He knew he could nt beat his man from the first minute and did n't bother again.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Apr 6, 2022 10:57:32 GMT
That was embarrassing and predictable.
The players are playing tippy tap across the line in our own half because they don’t know what to do or aren’t confident enough to do it.
That’s either the managers fault or both the manager and the players fault.
MON out. I’ve seen more than enough.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Apr 6, 2022 11:02:12 GMT
Oh and Luton are 4th.
4th.
And how did we fare against the bottom 4?
Reading LOST Barnsley DRAWN Derby LOST Peterboro DRAWN
Awful.
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Post by steve66 on Apr 6, 2022 14:19:02 GMT
Don’t know if been discussed but Paul Ince having a go at stoke constantly in the media is a gripe that is starting piss me off! No clubs allow on loan players to play against the parent club do they?
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Post by jokker on Apr 6, 2022 15:28:34 GMT
After the last two games OG needs to keep his place Your decision was our undoing :-)
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Post by silsdenstokie on Apr 6, 2022 16:01:06 GMT
Oh and Luton are 4th. 4th. And how did we fare against the bottom 4? Reading LOST Barnsley DRAWN Derby LOST Peterboro DRAWN Awful. Shite isnt it? Oneill seems to be getting out-thought every week by very average managers Worry that if hes still in charge next season we’ll be in a relegation battle
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Post by blade on Apr 6, 2022 18:54:57 GMT
As MON seems to now be a dead man walking would it not be good idea to bring in his predecessor now. Reasons being that :-
a) this season is now officially finished
b) players are packing their holiday suitcase's
c) avoid the close season bunfight for the best candidate
d) give the new manager time to assess this seasons squad
e) see if a new broom can motivate the players
f) give the fans some reason to believe
g) encourage supporters to renew their season tickets
h) "promote" MON upstairs
Think that managers at the club have an easy ride from the benevolent SCFC board but they cannot seriously impressed by the current managers strategy because next season could be even worse than this one. On a final note Luton Town 4th in table 15 pts and 11 positions above Stoke!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2022 19:19:51 GMT
there was a debate after the man utd v athletico madrid game in which paul scholes and rio ferdinand were adamant man utd need a coach with ' the fear factor 'such as a klopp, pep, conte or tuchel
At a lower level on a smaller scale , Stoke are the same ,the players aren't going to respond to softly softly , nicey nicey , its all too cosy and too rewarding of mediocrity .
IF you could speak to Rowett , NJ, MoN off the record , in private , i think they would confirm this . Obviously I am guessing , but its my hunch
we are a poor mans , man utd , the gravy train rolls on , regardless of whether the players , management and board give a hundred percent and are on it , or not
A total shake up is needed, from top to bottom .
If the attitude of the players , management and board is wrong , its never going to come right , no matter how much money you have.
Not even if you are man utd
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Post by stokeoptimist on Apr 7, 2022 10:56:33 GMT
This is a repeat of last season isn't it, yet the happy clappers will be along soon to tell us everything will miraculously be different next season. No injuries, no poor ref decisions, the right new signings, no player errors, better game management. Who the hell are they kidding ? We're stinking the place out week after week with this manager in charge. MON OUT ! If the kneejerkers get their way it will be a repeat of every season since Hughes was sacked. Or worse we finally get relegated. What the hell makes you thing getting another manager in and starting again is going to make any difference. Its time to stick, whether you like it or not, there are no quick fixes.
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Post by deeside2 on Apr 7, 2022 11:28:18 GMT
This is a repeat of last season isn't it, yet the happy clappers will be along soon to tell us everything will miraculously be different next season. No injuries, no poor ref decisions, the right new signings, no player errors, better game management. Who the hell are they kidding ? We're stinking the place out week after week with this manager in charge. MON OUT ! If the kneejerkers get their way it will be a repeat of every season since Hughes was sacked. Or worse we finally get relegated. What the hell makes you thing getting another manager in and starting again is going to make any difference. Its time to stick, whether you like it or not, there are no quick fixes. I hardly think it's a kneejerk reaction wanting O'Neill gone. Our form since Christmas-ish has been that of a bottom 6 team and we also saw the same collapse last season. If we have a full season continuing this form we most certainly will be in a relegation battle next year. He show's no sign whatsoever of knowing how to stop the decline or turn things around. I know it doesn't happen with every new managerial appointment (and it never happens at Stoke) but I disagree about no quick fixes - just look at the turn around in form of Forest, Sheff Utd, and Boro since their new managers took charge. We can also include Corboran at Huddersfield who has been in his role since July 2020 and spent no money, compared to MON who's been at Stoke since November 2019, and has been backed financially for new signings. We obviously disagree but I firmly believe enough is enough and he needs to be replaced.
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