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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 20, 2022 17:41:51 GMT
Please God no. Tony Moanbray no no no.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2022 17:44:59 GMT
It’s a results business. The last two managers to get us out of this division were Durban and TP who played effective football. I prefer 1-0 and 0-0 and undefeated to losing 8-7 every game. Good for you but there’s absolutely no evidence that defensive low scoring football is successful football. Successful teams score a lot of goals and have been doing so for many years. 1-0 to the Arsenal is decades ago. But there is undeniable evidence that winning and drawing is more successful than losing every exciting game.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 20, 2022 17:45:20 GMT
I want O'Neill to stay but Mowbray would be far from the worst choice should we have to replace him. If you look at it objectively, he did a solid job at West Brom and has done very well at Blackburn taking them from League One to the Top 6 of the Championship where they are currently - not spending a great deal in the process.
The way he likes his teams to play is very similar to what MON is trying to do here, and there would be little risk in him not picking the younger players we have also.
I'm finding all this a bit odd though, as there isn't a vacancy at present but these stories must be coming from somewhere...
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2022 17:47:18 GMT
Mowbray is 58. Not a long term appointment in the stressful world of football management.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2022 17:48:47 GMT
Good for you but there’s absolutely no evidence that defensive low scoring football is successful football. Successful teams score a lot of goals and have been doing so for many years. 1-0 to the Arsenal is decades ago. But there is undeniable evidence that winning and drawing is more successful than losing every exciting game. Better to win one and lose one than draw two of course
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 20, 2022 17:50:16 GMT
Another yesterday's man imo.
If we're going to go for anyone in this division, I'd give Mark Robins a call. I'm sure we'd probably destroy him like we seem to with every half decent manager, before he went back to Coventry for more success.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2022 17:51:00 GMT
But there is undeniable evidence that winning and drawing is more successful than losing every exciting game. Better to win one and lose one than draw two of course Absolutely. And better to draw one without a shot on goal than lose in entertaining fashion.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2022 17:57:23 GMT
We stayed up with room to spare in his final season. TP’s time is over. He should retire in comfort until TPjr becomes our manager. I've said this before March, looks like I've got to say it again. We finished 6 points above the drop zone. I'd hardly call that 'room to spare'. We were a couple of defeats away from fucking it all up.
6 points - it’s a chasm when teams are scrapping for every point. I know the defeat to Villa left us all looking over our shoulders but the situation did stabilise a little over the final few games. I agree it was uncomfortable for a while.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2022 17:59:36 GMT
Six points isn’t and never has been a ‘chasm’.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2022 18:01:57 GMT
Six points isn’t and never has been a ‘chasm’. It is at the bottom. A huge chasm.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2022 18:03:05 GMT
Six points isn’t and never has been a ‘chasm’. It is at the bottom. A huge chasm. It really isn’t. Especially when you shouldn’t have been remotely in the mix in the first place.
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Post by Gods on Mar 20, 2022 18:09:47 GMT
I'd prefer someone styling themselves as a vision of smart-suited spiffiness: media-ready, grinningly flirtatious, pitched somewhere between corporate motivational speaker and twinkly, well-groomed man in a television advert for erectile disfunction medication!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2022 18:11:29 GMT
I'd prefer someone styling themselves as a vision of smart-suited spiffiness: media-ready, grinningly flirtatious, pitched somewhere between corporate motivational speaker and twinkly, well-groomed man in a television advert for erectile disfunction medication! You took the words right out of my mouth 🤣
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 20, 2022 18:11:47 GMT
I prefer to win too, but I do like the idea of enjoying watching the game rather than having to justify what I’ve just sat through with “well we won, didn’t we”. Realistically, if Pulis came in and didn’t succeed, he’s spoilt a legacy. Further, there’d be no chance of seeing Bursik, DWP, Forrester, Taylor etc playing routinely for us. I certainly couldn’t see DWP in a Pulis team. It has to be someone comfortable with playing the young players It's one argument for keeping O'Neill however there are other managers who play youth Rooney for example Farke? Agreed. Whether we will accept it or not, we have needed to prioritize youth players for seasons. We have a great crop of younger players who potentially could make it. We can’t afford to bring in another manager who is interested in short term gains over the expense of promoting youngsters that could be worth some money in the near future.
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 20, 2022 18:14:36 GMT
I've said this before March, looks like I've got to say it again. We finished 6 points above the drop zone. I'd hardly call that 'room to spare'. We were a couple of defeats away from fucking it all up.
6 points - it’s a chasm when teams are scrapping for every point. I know the defeat to Villa left us all looking over our shoulders but the situation did stabilise a little over the final few games. I agree it was uncomfortable for a while. Our record from Jan 1st read: P18 W3 D4 L11 GF13 GA28 Points per game 0.72 That’s not ‘uncomfortable’, it’s relegation form for half a season.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 20, 2022 18:18:32 GMT
It'd be awful to watch..... His sides play football!!!
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 20, 2022 18:24:21 GMT
Good for you but there’s absolutely no evidence that defensive low scoring football is successful football. Successful teams score a lot of goals and have been doing so for many years. 1-0 to the Arsenal is decades ago. But there is undeniable evidence that winning and drawing is more successful than losing every exciting game. But no evidence that you’re any more likely to lose an exciting high scoring game than a boring binary one.5
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Post by fraybentos on Mar 20, 2022 18:26:14 GMT
it would be like having Joe Biden as manager
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 20, 2022 18:30:27 GMT
Reality is despite his achievements his football was mindnumbingly boring for the vast majority of both his tenures as our manager. We seem to have quite a knack of choosing managers who think entertainment should be sought at a circus. Peak-Pulisball is the most entertaining football I've watched, and Crouch's volley from when the ball never touched the ground from Begovic's kick the best goal. I've seen mind-numbing games from all our recent managers. Pulis didn't replace the quality of Pennant and Etherington at their peak which I think was his main problem. Peak Pulisball was extremely short lived. Peak has got to be second half of cup final season and even then we were pretty bloody awful first half of the season and it didn’t even last to the end of the season. Out of about 10 seasons in total a very small percentage of our games were decent to watch.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 20, 2022 18:51:11 GMT
Six points isn’t and never has been a ‘chasm’. It is at the bottom. A huge chasm. Semantics
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Post by thevoid on Mar 20, 2022 18:52:10 GMT
6 points - it’s a chasm when teams are scrapping for every point. I know the defeat to Villa left us all looking over our shoulders but the situation did stabilise a little over the final few games. I agree it was uncomfortable for a while. Our record from Jan 1st read: P18 W3 D4 L11 GF13 GA28 Points per game 0.72 That’s not ‘uncomfortable’, it’s relegation form for half a season. Not far off our form before yesterday
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 18:59:22 GMT
Seems a sideway's move in all honesty, West From, Coventry, Middlesbrough and Blackburn. It would be like for like and would his heart be in it? Its either Pulis or a continental manager. Bore off and get a fucking life man Hard not to disagree with that fuck you very much!
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Post by lordb on Mar 20, 2022 19:11:38 GMT
It has to be someone comfortable with playing the young players It's one argument for keeping O'Neill however there are other managers who play youth Rooney for example Farke? Agreed. Whether we will accept it or not, we have needed to prioritize youth players for seasons. We have a great crop of younger players who potentially could make it. We can’t afford to bring in another manager who is interested in short term gains over the expense of promoting youngsters that could be worth some money in the near future. It's a strong reason I think Neil Critchly should be in the running
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 20, 2022 19:12:47 GMT
Our record from Jan 1st read: P18 W3 D4 L11 GF13 GA28 Points per game 0.72 That’s not ‘uncomfortable’, it’s relegation form for half a season. Not far off our form before yesterday Our last 18 games is better than that! Not much better, granted… W4, D6, L8
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Post by maninasuitcase on Mar 20, 2022 19:16:27 GMT
Think I'll stick rather than twist.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 20, 2022 19:31:10 GMT
Makes sense, would be the most Coates family appointment known to man.
Shite and from the English isles.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 20, 2022 19:42:39 GMT
Still not sure why emergency appointment was mentioned in the article, very odd choice of word.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 19:55:24 GMT
Better to win one and lose one than draw two of course Absolutely. And better to draw one without a shot on goal than lose in entertaining fashion. I disagree. Winning or drawing does not have to be at all costs. I would rather have a go and lose than watch another "binary" season.
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 20, 2022 19:59:17 GMT
No. Beige United
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 20, 2022 21:48:54 GMT
Bore off and get a fucking life man Hard not to disagree with that fuck you very much! To clarify, my comment was aimed at your TP comment... Nothing else 👍🏼
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