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Post by neddy on Mar 13, 2022 18:18:37 GMT
I think he will head back to Swansea.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 13, 2022 18:18:53 GMT
Has he signed somewhere else or do we have an option on him? Would you keep him at a lot lower wages? He and Baker play well together. Surely the ownership knows this a decision for a manger to make and not MON. I would keep him. The issue will be that he is one of the highest earners in the squad - with FFP breathing down our neck I can't see him being offered a new deal unless it's on vastly reduced terms.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 13, 2022 18:27:20 GMT
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Post by westgatelakes on Mar 13, 2022 20:00:47 GMT
He sold his farm in Slindon months ago and has been living in digs since apparently, which would suggest that he's not going to be offered a new contract
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 13, 2022 20:19:34 GMT
"Joe Allen-out of contract."
My eyesight must be deteriorating. I read the OP Headline as "Joe Allen out of control".
Maybe that's what the OP wanted to say.
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 13, 2022 20:23:30 GMT
I think the question is can we get someone younger and equal/better than Joe in the midfield harry-er role on a contract level Joe would accept. If yes then let Joe move on.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 13, 2022 20:48:20 GMT
He sold his farm in Slindon months ago and has been living in digs since apparently, which would suggest that he's not going to be offered a new contract Where is this from? Is there any truth in it or just Chinese Whispers? I remember this rumour surfacing when we were relegated and it turned out not to be true then. Wherever he goes (or if he stays) he's going to get a fraction of what he's on now. Swansea aren't going to pay him more than we can offer even with FFP hanging over us. Probably the main factor would be South West Wales is home where his family live and let's face it where would you rather live, Tenby or Eccleshall? Mmmmm. Let me think about that for a fraction of a second.
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 13, 2022 20:55:08 GMT
I think the question is can we get someone younger and equal/better than Joe in the midfield harry-er role on a contract level Joe would accept. If yes then let Joe move on. Yes
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 13, 2022 20:57:24 GMT
I really feel that Joe has more connection with and feeling for the club than any other player. I get the impression that it really hurts him that we haven't got anywhere near promotion again. Not my favourite player but he never hides or shirks and sometimes like against Luton it seems he is the only player prepared to fight for us. I think he will be sorely missed next season for his attitude and spirit even if we replace him with a player of equal ability.
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Post by masterpotter on Mar 13, 2022 21:02:09 GMT
Typical Stoke moaners. He is head and shoulders our best player. Be careful what you wish for
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 13, 2022 21:02:41 GMT
I really feel that Joe has more connection with and feeling for the club than any other player. I get the impression that it really hurts him that we haven't got anywhere near promotion again. Not my favourite player but he never hides or shirks and sometimes like against Luton it seems he is the only player prepared to fight for us. I think he will be sorely missed next season for his attitude and spirit even if we replace him with a player of equal ability. hes been much better this last 3 months or so and definitely likes playing with Baker. if we play a midfield 3 then new DM - break up play Baker (box to box with goals) Allen (break up play) looks good. However if we can 'upgrade' then I think we should. I have slated him in the past but I would not be against him being here next year (just the age issue)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 21:06:19 GMT
I really feel that Joe has more connection with and feeling for the club than any other player. I get the impression that it really hurts him that we haven't got anywhere near promotion again. Not my favourite player but he never hides or shirks and sometimes like against Luton it seems he is the only player prepared to fight for us. I think he will be sorely missed next season for his attitude and spirit even if we replace him with a player of equal ability. Really? He doesn’t look like he’s ever given a shit to me.
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 13, 2022 21:12:48 GMT
I really feel that Joe has more connection with and feeling for the club than any other player. I get the impression that it really hurts him that we haven't got anywhere near promotion again. Not my favourite player but he never hides or shirks and sometimes like against Luton it seems he is the only player prepared to fight for us. I think he will be sorely missed next season for his attitude and spirit even if we replace him with a player of equal ability. Really? He doesn’t look like he’s ever given a shit to me. He doesn't give a rat's arse about Stoke City but you'd be hard pressed to find a player who does, for any club. Just all a bit fanciful that type of thinking.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 21:16:22 GMT
Really? He doesn’t look like he’s ever given a shit to me. He doesn't give a rat's arse about Stoke City but you'd be hard pressed to find a player who does, for any club. Just all a bit fanciful that type of thinking. I agree generally. Allen has always seemed that little bit more disconnected though. He’s always seemed a spare part bar actually playing sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 22:03:17 GMT
Typical Stoke moaners. He is head and shoulders our best player. Be careful what you wish for Which is why we are so shit.
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Post by maine on Mar 13, 2022 22:24:19 GMT
If I were right wing (which I'm definitely not) I'd say that as Joe Allen does the work of 3 or 4 other team-mates, he should be paid accordingly. Heck-I'll say it anyway.
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Post by kerouac on Mar 13, 2022 22:29:17 GMT
I really feel that Joe has more connection with and feeling for the club than any other player. I get the impression that it really hurts him that we haven't got anywhere near promotion again. Not my favourite player but he never hides or shirks and sometimes like against Luton it seems he is the only player prepared to fight for us. I think he will be sorely missed next season for his attitude and spirit even if we replace him with a player of equal ability. Really? He doesn’t look like he’s ever given a shit to me. Apparently not according to a mate of mine who was talking a while back to Mick Harford during the Jones era,i live in a village close to Poluton.....he couldn't give a shit and couldn't wait to get his bib off and fuck off home.
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Post by pushon on Mar 13, 2022 22:29:40 GMT
Typical Stoke moaners. He is head and shoulders our best player. Be careful what you wish for I totally agree with this sentiment. Joe Allen is easily our best and most influential player.
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 14, 2022 2:25:50 GMT
Typical Stoke moaners. He is head and shoulders our best player. Be careful what you wish for I totally agree with this sentiment. Joe Allen is easily our best and most influential player. Me to, he's the most influential player in getting us to where we are. May the massive success that we have witnessed since his coming continue. 🤦
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2022 7:57:15 GMT
Staggering to think anyone could've watched us for the last five years and come to the conclusion that Joe Allen is 'head and shoulders our best player'.
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Post by Gods on Mar 14, 2022 8:09:25 GMT
We should beg him to sign, he's our only decent player who isn't injured half the time.
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Post by wuzza on Mar 14, 2022 8:10:47 GMT
Staggering to think anyone could've watched us for the last five years and come to the conclusion that Joe Allen is 'head and shoulders our best player'. Well I’m prepared to stagger you. Might not be head and shoulders but he is certainly one of our better players and it will be a retrograde step if and when he does go. Mind you it’s not untypical of the way things are that people can watch what we’ve produced and come to conclusion that Joe Allen is the source of our problems - confused thinking everywhere seems to typify the state of play.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2022 8:11:42 GMT
We should beg him to sign, he's our only decent player. I mean, that, palpably, is absolute nonsense on a number of levels isn't it? The only way anyone could seriously believe that is if they'd not seen us for five years, casually picked noticed us on the tv and said 'oh so that's what happened to Joe Allen'? It's based on a reputation he hasn't really warranted for a good half-decade at this point.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2022 8:13:28 GMT
Staggering to think anyone could've watched us for the last five years and come to the conclusion that Joe Allen is 'head and shoulders our best player'. Well I’m prepared to stagger you. Might not be head and shoulders but he is certainly one of our better players and it will be a retrograde step if and when he does go. Mind you it’s not untypical of the way things are that people can watch what we’ve produced and come to conclusion that Joe Allen is the source of our problems - confused thinking everywhere seems to typify the state of play. I didn't say it was staggering if people thought Joe Allen wasn't a terrible player or wasn't the source of all our problems though did I?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 14, 2022 8:14:11 GMT
He’s been ok last few weeks.
But overall he’s not been good enough.
It’s also getting rid of a player which should help signify a fresh start.
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Post by masterpotter on Mar 14, 2022 8:14:31 GMT
Staggering to think anyone could've watched us for the last five years and come to the conclusion that Joe Allen is 'head and shoulders our best player'. So who is better then
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Post by Gods on Mar 14, 2022 8:17:46 GMT
Staggering to think anyone could've watched us for the last five years and come to the conclusion that Joe Allen is 'head and shoulders our best player'. So who is better then And not injured half the time? It's a very short list, let's put it like that!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2022 8:19:33 GMT
Staggering to think anyone could've watched us for the last five years and come to the conclusion that Joe Allen is 'head and shoulders our best player'. So who is better then Souttar, Powell, Baker. Talk me through the attributes that make him 'head and shoulders our best player'?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2022 8:20:16 GMT
And not injured half the time? It's a very short list, let's put it like that! He's missed his fair share of time with injuries over the last few seasons as well though?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 14, 2022 8:20:38 GMT
Get rid the bloke has been an absolute Jonah for our club. Just got to break that link.
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