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Post by theoptimist on Mar 12, 2022 17:19:47 GMT
I haven't heard it but if he's making excuses its because he's too scared to rock the boat. He basically said anyone who calls in to blame the manager doesn’t know what they’re talking about. He didn’t clarify who exactly we should hold responsible for assembling the biggest bunch of losers known to man, and playing 5 at the back in consecutive games against the 23rd and 24th placed sides. Assume it's just his risible attempt at being a shock-jock. Either that, or he's a pure simpleton.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 12, 2022 17:20:36 GMT
I haven't heard it but if he's making excuses its because he's too scared to rock the boat. He basically said anyone who calls in to blame the manager doesn’t know what they’re talking about. He didn’t clarify who exactly we should hold responsible for assembling the biggest bunch of losers known to man, and playing 5 at the back in consecutive games against the 23rd and 24th placed sides. He was covering MON before the game too, how well we played in the last game etc etc blah blah blah, if they criticize they won't get the interviews they do so I just don't take anything they say seriously. Nige had a rant a little while ago about how poor we are and there he is today saying the complete opposite.
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Post by jeycov on Mar 12, 2022 17:21:36 GMT
So will he chop and change the starting 11 on Wednesday?
We can put out a much stronger starting 11 IMO
Conversely! Constantly changing the personnel is proving to be very disruptive
It’s so demoralising for everyone, fans, players, owners and management
The latter 2 have to take responsibility now and initiate a change of direction
Season ticket renewals will be a big decision for a lot of fans who right now may be thinking Why bother?
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Mar 12, 2022 17:24:17 GMT
So will he chop and change the starting 11 on Wednesday? We can put out a much stronger starting 11 IMO Conversely! Constantly changing the personnel is proving to be very disruptive It’s so demoralising for everyone, fans, players, owners and management The latter 2 have to take responsibility now and initiate a change of direction Season ticket renewals will be a big decision for a lot of fans who right now may be thinking Why bother? I'd stick to the Matchday Tombola. It seems to be working.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 12, 2022 17:25:59 GMT
So will he chop and change the starting 11 on Wednesday? We can put out a much stronger starting 11 IMO Conversely! Constantly changing the personnel is proving to be very disruptive It’s so demoralising for everyone, fans, players, owners and management The latter 2 have to take responsibility now and initiate a change of direction Season ticket renewals will be a big decision for a lot of fans who right now may be thinking Why bother? Hopefully he won't have that problem on Weds .........yeh I know.....
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 12, 2022 17:26:06 GMT
So will he chop and change the starting 11 on Wednesday? We can put out a much stronger starting 11 IMO Conversely! Constantly changing the personnel is proving to be very disruptive It’s so demoralising for everyone, fans, players, owners and management The latter 2 have to take responsibility now and initiate a change of direction Season ticket renewals will be a big decision for a lot of fans who right now may be thinking Why bother? Bursik, Sawyers, Campbell, and one of JPB or DWP need to play.......
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 12, 2022 17:26:29 GMT
So will he chop and change the starting 11 on Wednesday? We can put out a much stronger starting 11 IMO Conversely! Constantly changing the personnel is proving to be very disruptive It’s so demoralising for everyone, fans, players, owners and management The latter 2 have to take responsibility now and initiate a change of direction Season ticket renewals will be a big decision for a lot of fans who right now may be thinking Why bother? The manager would take responsibility and initiate a change of direction if he was capable of doing it, clearly he has lost his way. The Coates's will do nothing to change that is my prediction. I reckon even poor sales won't change things.
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 12, 2022 17:33:31 GMT
of all the potential penalty calls the one that would have helped me paper over the cracks was not given..... some creative tautology there for sure.
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Post by jwhpotter on Mar 12, 2022 17:40:18 GMT
A little dig at the fans there? “Showing their frustrations won’t help, especially the younger players.” People pay a lot of money to go and enjoy football, it’s horrendous at the moment so we’re entitled to be frustrated!
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 12, 2022 17:42:50 GMT
A little dig at the fans there? “Showing their frustrations won’t help, especially the younger players.” People pay a lot of money to go and enjoy football, it’s horrendous at the moment so we’re entitled to be frustrated! and it starts (he started to do this earlier this season as well). and the person slagging the team and younger players most recently in the press has been him. Edit. Last time Mon slagged the team in the press (not behind closed doors mind)- lets see - Tuesday and Wednesday this week. Last time Mon slagged a young player in the press (not behind closed doors mind). lets see - that would be yesterday.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 12, 2022 17:52:43 GMT
of all the potential penalty calls the one that would have helped me paper over the cracks was not given..... some creative tautology there for sure. Yes it would have papered over the cracks but yes it was a clear penalty
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 12, 2022 17:57:08 GMT
of all the potential penalty calls the one that would have helped me paper over the cracks was not given..... some creative tautology there for sure. Yes it would have papered over the cracks but yes it was a clear penalty I agree. Both teams should have had 1 penalty so it evened out. Im sure Mon agrees our first wasn't a penalty. Bad decision from the ref on the Maja one though. However if that had won us the game that would have been harsh on Posh.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 12, 2022 17:58:41 GMT
Yes it would have papered over the cracks but yes it was a clear penalty I agree. Both teams should have had 1 penalty so it evened out. Im sure Mon agrees our first wasn't a penalty. Bad decision from the ref on the Maja one though. However if that had won us the game that would have been harsh on Posh. All 3 were clear penalties
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Post by thevoid on Mar 12, 2022 18:01:14 GMT
How many points gained from losing positions? Must be much less Forest and Blues games fits both categories as we were losing then winning in both games Only the 2:1 win v Hudds at home have we gained points from a losing position this season (including draws) and in that game points were only gained by an own goal by Hudds. IMO This would indicate we have no backbone or poor game management, but evidence shows it is both. Not quite- we came from behind to draw at Huddersfield and Barnsley so that's the princely sum of 5 points. As for points dropped from winning positions, 23 (I expected it to be more) Still, have a good life and c'mon Stoke 😆
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 12, 2022 18:05:14 GMT
I agree. Both teams should have had 1 penalty so it evened out. Im sure Mon agrees our first wasn't a penalty. Bad decision from the ref on the Maja one though. However if that had won us the game that would have been harsh on Posh. All 3 were clear penalties we will have to disagree. the ball for the first didn't even touch the blokes arm from the replays. doesn't change anything the record books show a plucky 2-2 draw at the bottom club, we gave up 2 leads in the game and Mons still lost at sea. Edit - I know, you lost your winnings on that decision (not to say we would not have given up another lead in the game)
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Post by Veritas on Mar 12, 2022 18:38:43 GMT
All 3 were clear penalties we will have to disagree. the ball for the first didn't even touch the blokes arm from the replays. doesn't change anything the record books show a plucky 2-2 draw at the bottom club, we gave up 2 leads in the game and Mons still lost at sea. Edit - I know, you lost your winnings on that decision (not to say we would not have given up another lead in the game) Given our recent history of leaking late goals why didn't I cash in? I even looked and decided not to!!
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 12, 2022 18:40:09 GMT
we will have to disagree. the ball for the first didn't even touch the blokes arm from the replays. doesn't change anything the record books show a plucky 2-2 draw at the bottom club, we gave up 2 leads in the game and Mons still lost at sea. Edit - I know, you lost your winnings on that decision (not to say we would not have given up another lead in the game) Given our recent history of leaking g Kate goals why didn't I cash in? I even looked and decided not to!! I feel for you mate. Stoke fans never learn. We moan our bags off but we are eternal optimists.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 12, 2022 18:44:28 GMT
I don't remember a team falling apart so much in one season, from top four to unlikely to beat anyone in the bottom four. Incredible really. Building
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Post by peepin on Mar 12, 2022 18:53:32 GMT
of all the potential penalty calls the one that would have helped me paper over the cracks was not given..... some creative tautology there for sure. Absolutely agree, if we have to rely on potential penalty shouts after ballsing up an 84th minute lead AGAIN, then we are swimming in dog shit.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Mar 12, 2022 19:14:16 GMT
Only the 2:1 win v Hudds at home have we gained points from a losing position this season (including draws) and in that game points were only gained by an own goal by Hudds. IMO This would indicate we have no backbone or poor game management, but evidence shows it is both. Not quite- we came from behind to draw at Huddersfield and Barnsley so that's the princely sum of 5 points. As for points dropped from winning positions, 23 (I expected it to be more) Still, have a good life and c'mon Stoke 😆 Plus a point gained against Forest.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 12, 2022 19:15:31 GMT
So will he chop and change the starting 11 on Wednesday? We can put out a much stronger starting 11 IMO Conversely! Constantly changing the personnel is proving to be very disruptive It’s so demoralising for everyone, fans, players, owners and management The latter 2 have to take responsibility now and initiate a change of direction Season ticket renewals will be a big decision for a lot of fans who right now may be thinking Why bother? Dressing room lost matey. The whole point of being a “manager” is getting everybody to do what you want them to do. I’ve been doing it for 20 years, some might say I’m just like MON😉. But the point is, in any business if the team don’t do what the manager wants them to do or they’re not following instructions then it’s on him, it’s what he’s paid to do. He’s out of his depth, he needs to go this week.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 12, 2022 19:38:43 GMT
Not quite- we came from behind to draw at Huddersfield and Barnsley so that's the princely sum of 5 points. As for points dropped from winning positions, 23 (I expected it to be more) Still, have a good life and c'mon Stoke 😆 Plus a point gained against Forest. We dropped points at Forest.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Mar 12, 2022 19:53:47 GMT
Plus a point gained against Forest. We dropped points at Forest. We were losing 1-0 and ended up drawing - hence gained a point. Yes we were winning and it felt like 2 points dropped, but technically it was a point gained.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 12, 2022 20:01:24 GMT
We dropped points at Forest. We were losing 1-0 and ended up drawing - hence gained a point. Yes we were winning and it felt like 2 points dropped, but technically it was a point gained. The team who concede the last goal have dropped the points. If it's a high scoring draw where the lead has changed several times you wouldn't say both sides dropped the points
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 12, 2022 20:13:15 GMT
At the end of the day they were shit and we were shit. Hats off to the 2k that turned out to watch it This bloke is out of his depth
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Post by samba :) on Mar 12, 2022 20:21:23 GMT
Duhaney should never of worn a sky blue shirt
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Post by stokecitytalke on Mar 12, 2022 20:35:07 GMT
We were losing 1-0 and ended up drawing - hence gained a point. Yes we were winning and it felt like 2 points dropped, but technically it was a point gained. The team who concede the last goal have dropped the points. If it's a high scoring draw where the lead has changed several times you wouldn't say both sides dropped the points It was both! We gained a point from a losing position - and lost 2 from a winning position.
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Post by hughjarse on Mar 12, 2022 20:54:41 GMT
of all the potential penalty calls the one that would have helped me paper over the cracks was not given..... some creative tautology there for sure. Yes it would have papered over the cracks but yes it was a clear penalty By this stage the referee was thinking ffs I can't give three penalties in eight minutes........therefore no penalty. He was already feeling stressed and couldn't face any more analysis.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 12, 2022 21:24:29 GMT
The team who concede the last goal have dropped the points. If it's a high scoring draw where the lead has changed several times you wouldn't say both sides dropped the points It was both! We gained a point from a losing position - and lost 2 from a winning position. You can't have both, it's either one or the other. Reports don't say 'Both teams came from behind to save a point' 😆 The only exception would be if you'd had players sent off and you lost the lead. Then you could probably say it's a point gained. But even allowing for that, it was Forest who had the dismissal so it was a point gained for them and two dropped by us. I'm not discussing this any further
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Post by apb1 on Mar 13, 2022 21:04:52 GMT
Anyone got a video of the pen that wasn't given?
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