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Post by Goonie on Mar 9, 2022 20:20:11 GMT
Out and upsyairs
6 weeks before end of season announce it
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 9, 2022 20:31:43 GMT
In
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 20:34:12 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 9, 2022 20:50:29 GMT
Masquerading as a championship manager 😉
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Post by questionable on Mar 9, 2022 20:58:51 GMT
I can only assume that Russian hackers are trying to influence the voting as theres no other reason for the 92 in votes 😡
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Post by Fred Merger on Mar 9, 2022 21:27:06 GMT
Out
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Post by StokieNath on Mar 9, 2022 21:33:02 GMT
Out
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 9, 2022 22:33:01 GMT
Out…. IF we get Farke in to replace him. Otherwise better the devil you know.
I just think the players we have suit Farke’s preferred formation, so he’d just need to build carefully on that in the summer. He also has the pedigree of two recent promotions behind him.
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Post by borat on Mar 9, 2022 22:34:26 GMT
I was in upto a couple of weeks ago but this is relegation form and it's not improving.
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 9, 2022 23:03:25 GMT
We need someone better, he's had enough time. He did well keeping us up but he cannot take us any further as far as I can see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 23:09:21 GMT
Masquerading as a championship manager 😉 He is a Championship manager.
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 9, 2022 23:26:16 GMT
Interesting that he still seems to have a bit of credit in the bank.
Not quite 50/50 but not a million miles off.
Wouldn’t it be some story if he turned it around and next season we were the real deal?
Unlikely…..but not impossible. I think there’s still a bit of MON love there waiting for an excuse to break out.
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Post by Absolution on Mar 9, 2022 23:51:37 GMT
For now, I'm in.
Bringing in youngsters, financial constraints, remembering what an abject mess we were when he took over, some key injuries to deal with, and liking how he's trying to get us to play.
Plenty to go at for the out voters too, but I'd stick with him for now.
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Post by upthefud on Mar 10, 2022 0:19:07 GMT
In
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Post by Rose City Potter on Mar 10, 2022 0:41:37 GMT
I’m just on the out side. New man given the rest of the season to see what can be done with the current squad. Easy reshape with the amount of players out of contract this summer. I would have no objection to MON staying and moving upstairs.
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Post by stokedons on Mar 10, 2022 6:51:54 GMT
IN
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 10, 2022 8:38:27 GMT
In!
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Mar 10, 2022 8:39:31 GMT
In
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Post by nott1 on Mar 10, 2022 8:47:53 GMT
In
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Post by nott1 on Mar 10, 2022 8:51:16 GMT
We want a manager who failed at Norwich, why?
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Post by dazpeak on Mar 10, 2022 9:12:08 GMT
OUT
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 10, 2022 9:30:29 GMT
Out. He initially did a great job and stabilised us but he's shown week in, week out that he's tactically inept and still doesn't know his best formation and starting 11. We have becoming boring to watch and our football is slow and predictable. I believe this squad in good hands is more than capable of top 6, yet we're in relegation form.
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Post by HarryTheHat on Mar 10, 2022 9:31:48 GMT
We want a manager who failed at Norwich, why? He got them out of this division Something MON will never do
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Post by trincostokie on Mar 10, 2022 16:19:48 GMT
I'm curious as to whether this is a moot point anyway, given how close we remain to falling foul of the financial fair play regulations and given that to get rid of M.O'N would likely push us over the edge.
Another reason why FFP needs some serious reviewing...it'd surely contravene some workplace law if a club were forced to hold onto a manager they no longer wanted on account of knowing they would be financially punished as a result.
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Post by redstriper on Mar 10, 2022 16:46:17 GMT
I can only assume that Russian hackers are trying to influence the voting as theres no other reason for the 92 in votes 😡 How arrogant. There are plenty of reasons for keeping him, but you clearly don't have respect for anyone else having a different viewpoint, you so I'm not going to waste my time explaining them to you.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 10, 2022 18:25:25 GMT
I'm curious as to whether this is a moot point anyway, given how close we remain to falling foul of the financial fair play regulations and given that to get rid of M.O'N would likely push us over the edge. Another reason why FFP needs some serious reviewing...it'd surely contravene some workplace law if a club were forced to hold onto a manager they no longer wanted on account of knowing they would be financially punished as a result. You're forgetting the 2m we got back from Surridge so there's some wiggle room I'm sure if it is even an issue.
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Post by trincostokie on Mar 10, 2022 18:41:23 GMT
I'm curious as to whether this is a moot point anyway, given how close we remain to falling foul of the financial fair play regulations and given that to get rid of M.O'N would likely push us over the edge. Another reason why FFP needs some serious reviewing...it'd surely contravene some workplace law if a club were forced to hold onto a manager they no longer wanted on account of knowing they would be financially punished as a result. You're forgetting the 2m we got back from Surridge so there's some wiggle room I'm sure if it is even an issue. If true, that's good to know, Gary. That said, the hypothetical situation I mentioned before remains an interesting one.
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Post by professorplump on Mar 11, 2022 2:04:02 GMT
IN until the end of the season. We are not in any danger of relegation and there are hardly any credible alternatives around at the moment so if we sacked him now, we would probably end up with a Paul Lambert type appointment. There may be more options available either in the UK or around Europe in the summer. Meanwhile if MON can turn things around and deliver a top ten finish then I would probably give him another season.
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 11, 2022 4:26:27 GMT
In til end of season. Not sold on the current crop of alternatives. Not sure about FFP ramifications.
Not sure of anything at this point, check back with me in a week.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 11, 2022 9:00:21 GMT
I'm curious as to whether this is a moot point anyway, given how close we remain to falling foul of the financial fair play regulations and given that to get rid of M.O'N would likely push us over the edge. Another reason why FFP needs some serious reviewing...it'd surely contravene some workplace law if a club were forced to hold onto a manager they no longer wanted on account of knowing they would be financially punished as a result. Completely and depressingly accurate. Jesus it's hard supporting Stoke. FFP is not an issue as far as sacking MON is concerned. Any cost would come through into this season and we are fine after the Collins sale. All of the financial hit was taken in the 2019/20 and 2020/21 accounts. As 2021/22 replaces 2017/18 in the FFP rolling calculation and we lost £35 million in 2017/18, FFP is not be an issue affecting whether or not we sack the manager and most manager sackings spread the cost over time anyway. If he stays, it is because the owners believe he should, there is nothing stopping them removing him. Chiswickpotter, who is really good on the financial stuff, says it wouldn't be an issue.
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