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Post by lordb on Feb 28, 2022 19:23:29 GMT
So where does that leave Stoke and their left back options, if Tymon is injured? Of course the manager never considered that this situation (i.e. suspension and injury) could happen at exactly the same time, so he sent Eddy Jones, the Welsh U-21 defender, out on loan, instead of keeping him as cover...leaving us with Chester, Thompson, and Clucas, possibly in that order, none of them exactly experienced in that position. Chester and Clucas have both played left back, in the Premier League too However it's scary isn't it
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2022 19:33:39 GMT
So it wasn't a dangerous tackle just a dangerous follow through? The follow through is part of the tackle. They aren't 2 separate things. He goes through the player after winning the ball. That's reckless and dangerous. They are the rules. We've had some shit decisions this season but that wasn't one of them. We need to stop playing the victim and own it. Fair enough. My opinion is that it wasn't a foul let alone a red. But with your rulebook head on was the tackle on Brown a foul/yellow/red? In my opinion it was equally dangerous and out of control but the ref deemed it worthy of a throw in. And what about the 'penalty' on Maja? Or are we still playing victims? And isn't the point that we've been on the end of some outrageously poor decisions recently engender a 'victim mentality'. Compare the 3 red blatant cards not given for the opposition against the one given against us and tell me there is not room for complaint even if we concede Fox's was merited?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 19:35:59 GMT
The follow through is part of the tackle. They aren't 2 separate things. He goes through the player after winning the ball. That's reckless and dangerous. They are the rules. We've had some shit decisions this season but that wasn't one of them. We need to stop playing the victim and own it. Fair enough. My opinion is that it wasn't a foul let alone a red. But with your rulebook head on was the tackle on Brown a foul/yellow/red? In my opinion it was equally dangerous and out of control but the ref deemed it worthy of a throw in. And what about the 'penalty' on Maja? Or are we still playing victims? And isn't the point that we've been on the end of some outrageously poor decisions recently engender a 'victim mentality'. Compare the 3 red blatant cards not given for the opposition against the one given against us and tell me there is not room for complaint even if we concede Fox's was merited? You can compare a dozen bad decisions to this ome, but its completely irrelevant. Two wrongs don't make a right. I've already said we've had some awful decisions this season. I just don't think this was one of them, and I don't understand the uproar. It was very naive from Fox. He should have known better.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2022 19:38:41 GMT
Fair enough. My opinion is that it wasn't a foul let alone a red. But with your rulebook head on was the tackle on Brown a foul/yellow/red? In my opinion it was equally dangerous and out of control but the ref deemed it worthy of a throw in. And what about the 'penalty' on Maja? Or are we still playing victims? And isn't the point that we've been on the end of some outrageously poor decisions recently engender a 'victim mentality'. Compare the 3 red blatant cards not given for the opposition against the one given against us and tell me there is not room for complaint even if we concede Fox's was merited? You can compare a dozen bad decisions to this ome, but its completely irrelevant. Two wrongs don't make a right. I've already said we've had some awful decisions this season. I just don't think this was one of them, and I don't understand the uproar. It was very naive from Fox. He should have known better. Ok forget the others. What about the one on Brown in the same game by the same ref?
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Post by bigdave1 on Feb 28, 2022 19:44:22 GMT
What riles me is that it isn’t even a tackle, the Bournemouth player didn’t have the ball or was anywhere near in possession of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 19:44:25 GMT
You can compare a dozen bad decisions to this ome, but its completely irrelevant. Two wrongs don't make a right. I've already said we've had some awful decisions this season. I just don't think this was one of them, and I don't understand the uproar. It was very naive from Fox. He should have known better. Ok forget the others. What about the one on Brown in the same game by the same ref? Not seen it. Didn't watch the game. Only seen the Fox one back. And it's a red. Everything else is irrelevant in relation to that incident.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 28, 2022 19:45:19 GMT
Do we have a fit left back for tomorrow ?
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Post by stuammo on Feb 28, 2022 19:51:03 GMT
Any referee in Select Group 2 is ear marked for the Prem mate,this clown would fit in brilliantly I'm speechless, I really am. You'd have a good chance to argue it wasn't even a yellow. I find it difficult to see that it was a foul
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2022 19:51:15 GMT
It's barely a foul. There were 3/4 tackles that were worse in the same game.
Joke of a decisions..........twice.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2022 19:54:06 GMT
It's barely a foul. There were 3/4 tackles that were worse in the same game. Joke of a decisions..........twice. Bugger me I agree with Bayern. Give me a minute and I'll find something
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 28, 2022 19:54:38 GMT
Pathetic decision.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2022 20:02:08 GMT
Ok forget the others. What about the one on Brown in the same game by the same ref? Not seen it. Didn't watch the game. Only seen the Fox one back. And it's a red. Everything else is irrelevant in relation to that incident. It isn't irrelevant though is it? You cannot simply view that tackle in isolation even if you do view it as a foul. There are enough non Stoke fans including pundits and ex players who have commented and who didn't view it as a foul let alone one worthy of a red card. It might be a sending off in your literal interpretation of the rules for that particular incident. But you can't just dismiss all the other incidents that have gone against us recently as if they didn't happen. Had that been a stand alone red card and none of the other's taken place we might have been a bit upset but the outrage that has manifested itself against that decision would have been nowhere near as bad if it had been a simple one off.
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Post by DC1863 on Feb 28, 2022 20:03:58 GMT
Can we recall Doughty?
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Post by stokefc on Feb 28, 2022 20:05:39 GMT
Ok forget the others. What about the one on Brown in the same game by the same ref? Not seen it. Didn't watch the game. Only seen the Fox one back. And it's a red. Everything else is irrelevant in relation to that incident. convenient
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:10:02 GMT
Not seen it. Didn't watch the game. Only seen the Fox one back. And it's a red. Everything else is irrelevant in relation to that incident. convenient Just a fact. Calm down.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2022 20:11:21 GMT
Ok forget the others. What about the one on Brown in the same game by the same ref? Not seen it. Didn't watch the game. Only seen the Fox one back. And it's a red. Everything else is irrelevant in relation to that incident. It might be a good idea to watch at least the extended highlights in order to be able to contextualise your comments. It would give you an indication why those of us who watched the shambolic nature of Robinson's performance unfold are somewhat put out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:14:22 GMT
Not seen it. Didn't watch the game. Only seen the Fox one back. And it's a red. Everything else is irrelevant in relation to that incident. It isn't irrelevant though is it? You cannot simply view that tackle in isolation even if you do view it as a foul. There are enough non Stoke fans including pundits and ex players who have commented and who didn't view it as a foul let alone one worthy of a red card. It might be a sending off in your literal interpretation of the rules for that particular incident. But you can't just dismiss all the other incidents that have gone against us recently as if they didn't happen. Had that been a stand alone red card and none of the other's taken place we might have been a bit upset but the outrage that has manifested itself against that decision would have been nowhere near as bad if it had been a simple one off. It is irrelevant. If you want to look at other incidents and make arguments for them, that's fair enough. Huddersfield being a prime example. That decision was awful and an absolute shocker. It has no relevance on the Fox one though. The bottom line is, the referees at this level are, on the whole, pretty awful. They say the decisions even themselves out over a course of the season, and I can get on board with the notion that we've definitely had more go against us than for us this season. That is probably a fair point. None of the above changes the Fox decision though. That's a red card.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:15:12 GMT
Not seen it. Didn't watch the game. Only seen the Fox one back. And it's a red. Everything else is irrelevant in relation to that incident. It might be a good idea to watch at least the extended highlights in order to be able to contextualise your comments. It would give you an indication why those of us who watched the shambolic nature of Robinson's performance unfold are somewhat put out. I'm not passing comment or opinion on anything I haven't seen with my own eyes.
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Post by stokefc on Feb 28, 2022 20:16:35 GMT
You seem to have gone Bayernesque while Bayern has gone all WD
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2022 20:18:48 GMT
It might be a good idea to watch at least the extended highlights in order to be able to contextualise your comments. It would give you an indication why those of us who watched the shambolic nature of Robinson's performance unfold are somewhat put out. I'm not passing comment or opinion on anything I haven't seen with my own eyes. Which is why I suggested you watched it to allow you to put it into context.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:19:35 GMT
You seem to have gone Bayernesque while Bayern has gone all WD I just understand the laws of the game. This "but he won the ball" nonsense hasn't been a valid point for years, and yet people still churn it out. Its completely irrelevant. Some clearly don't know the rules of the game.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 28, 2022 20:19:44 GMT
It might be a good idea to watch at least the extended highlights in order to be able to contextualise your comments. It would give you an indication why those of us who watched the shambolic nature of Robinson's performance unfold are somewhat put out. I'm not passing comment or opinion on anything I haven't seen with my own eyes. You're being a bit of an idiot to be fair. You are saying it's a red card and everyone needs to own it. When people say to you.....but why weren't the identical tackles in the same game red cards.....your response is.....I can't comment I havent seen them. Ladies and gentlemen.....we have ourselves a referee
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:20:49 GMT
I'm not passing comment or opinion on anything I haven't seen with my own eyes. Which is why I suggested you watched it to allow you to put it into context. Not sure why context is needed. Unless the argument is "but he got other decisions wrong". And I've already said that's completely irrelevant. The incident in question was a red card.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2022 20:22:09 GMT
It isn't irrelevant though is it? You cannot simply view that tackle in isolation even if you do view it as a foul. There are enough non Stoke fans including pundits and ex players who have commented and who didn't view it as a foul let alone one worthy of a red card. It might be a sending off in your literal interpretation of the rules for that particular incident. But you can't just dismiss all the other incidents that have gone against us recently as if they didn't happen. Had that been a stand alone red card and none of the other's taken place we might have been a bit upset but the outrage that has manifested itself against that decision would have been nowhere near as bad if it had been a simple one off. It is irrelevant. If you want to look at other incidents and make arguments for them, that's fair enough. Huddersfield being a prime example. That decision was awful and an absolute shocker. It has no relevance on the Fox one though. The bottom line is, the referees at this level are, on the whole, pretty awful. They say the decisions even themselves out over a course of the season, and I can get on board with the notion that we've definitely had more go against us than for us this season. That is probably a fair point. None of the above changes the Fox decision though. That's a red card. You say tomayto I say tomato. I've made my point. You've made yours Can't be arsed arguing this any further mate because, in best Bayern fashion, I'm obviously right. Have a good night
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:22:40 GMT
I'm not passing comment or opinion on anything I haven't seen with my own eyes. You're being a bit of an idiot to be fair. You are saying it's a red card and everyone needs to own it. When people say to you.....but why weren't the identical tackles in the same game red cards.....your response is.....I can't comment I havent seen them. Ladies and gentlemen.....we have ourselves a referee It's fairly straightforward. It is a red card. If there were 1000 other decisions in the game that were incorrect, then fair enough. That's completely shyte. Not got an issue with that. Just don't get up in arms about the 1 decision he did get right. Focus on the mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:23:17 GMT
It is irrelevant. If you want to look at other incidents and make arguments for them, that's fair enough. Huddersfield being a prime example. That decision was awful and an absolute shocker. It has no relevance on the Fox one though. The bottom line is, the referees at this level are, on the whole, pretty awful. They say the decisions even themselves out over a course of the season, and I can get on board with the notion that we've definitely had more go against us than for us this season. That is probably a fair point. None of the above changes the Fox decision though. That's a red card. You say tomayto I say tomato. I've made my point. You've made yours Can't be arsed arguing this any further mate because, in best Bayern fashion, I'm obviously right. Have a good night Yeah, agree to disagree pal. All the best.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2022 20:27:23 GMT
You seem to have gone Bayernesque while Bayern has gone all WD A drunken mess who gets too emotional and starts taking it out on people on here with insults?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:29:10 GMT
You seem to have gone Bayernesque while Bayern has gone all WD A drunken mess who gets too emotional and starts taking it out on people on here with insults? A bloke who has literally no life, spends all his time posting on an Internet message board making hundreds of thousands of posts and who is universally despised for his constant drivel of absolute arse gravy?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2022 20:30:26 GMT
A drunken mess who gets too emotional and starts taking it out on people on here with insults? A bloke who has literally no life, spends all his time posting on an Internet message board making hundreds of thousands of posts and who is universally despised for his constant drivel of absolute arse gravy? And who couldn't care less and is very happy. Crack on WD. I've never posted anything as batshit as your Powell thread and never will
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 20:31:04 GMT
A bloke who has literally no life, spends all his time posting on an Internet message board making hundreds of thousands of posts and who is universally despised for his constant drivel of absolute arse gravy? And who couldn't care less and is very happy. Crack on WD. I've never posted anything as batshit as your Powell thread and never will Objection your honour.
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