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Post by kjpt140v on Jul 7, 2022 0:20:32 GMT
I'd like to have seen him sign for us.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Jul 7, 2022 3:42:06 GMT
I'd like to have seen him sign for us. Yes not a bad player, but in honesty we are better off with a younger player. For what it's worth I rated Sawyers but it's not the end of the world. Be interesting to see how well he does at Cardiff.
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 8, 2022 5:36:58 GMT
The bigger point is being missed here. It's not about if we rated him as supporters, it's about him being a target for this manager of some description, and the how and why he has ended up at a rival who have a much more reduced budget than us, allegedly.
Why has he chose to move further away from home at a totally new club with an alleged smaller budget when he could have signed here, for a club he knew from last season at a localish club with supposedly more to spend?
I've heard game time mentioned more than once but Cardiff's midfield has more bodies than ours?
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Post by mowlee on Jul 8, 2022 5:46:49 GMT
The bigger point is being missed here. It's not about if we rated him as supporters, it's about him being a target for this manager of some description, and the how and why he has ended up at a rival who have a much more reduced budget than us, allegedly. Why has he chose to move further away from home at a totally new club with an alleged smaller budget when he could have signed here, for a club he knew from last season at a localish club with supposedly more to spend? I've heard game time mentioned more than once but Cardiff's midfield has more bodies than ours? maybe he might be giving etebo another chance.. there surely must be a reason as am sure if we really wanted Romaine would could of offered more wages than Cardiff
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Post by lordb on Jul 8, 2022 7:19:17 GMT
The bigger point is being missed here. It's not about if we rated him as supporters, it's about him being a target for this manager of some description, and the how and why he has ended up at a rival who have a much more reduced budget than us, allegedly. Why has he chose to move further away from home at a totally new club with an alleged smaller budget when he could have signed here, for a club he knew from last season at a localish club with supposedly more to spend? I've heard game time mentioned more than once but Cardiff's midfield has more bodies than ours? maybe he might be giving etebo another chance.. there surely must be a reason as am sure if we really wanted Romaine would could of offered more wages than Cardiff No chance re Etebo Sawyers only got 2 year deal so it isn't that It's either game time or money Or both If it's game time then no issue If it's money given we know Cardiff have slashed their budget then that's alarming
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 8, 2022 7:31:26 GMT
It's got very quiet around Etebo, any rumours of interest?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 8, 2022 8:06:15 GMT
The bigger point is being missed here. It's not about if we rated him as supporters, it's about him being a target for this manager of some description, and the how and why he has ended up at a rival who have a much more reduced budget than us, allegedly. Why has he chose to move further away from home at a totally new club with an alleged smaller budget when he could have signed here, for a club he knew from last season at a localish club with supposedly more to spend? I've heard game time mentioned more than once but Cardiff's midfield has more bodies than ours? maybe he might be giving etebo another chance.. there surely must be a reason as am sure if we really wanted Romaine would could of offered more wages than Cardiff I like Etebo as a player but wouldn’t want him as an AM/10 not enough end product.
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Post by mowlee on Jul 8, 2022 9:34:24 GMT
maybe he might be giving etebo another chance.. there surely must be a reason as am sure if we really wanted Romaine would could of offered more wages than Cardiff I like Etebo as a player but wouldn’t want him as an AM/10 not enough end product. I like etebo.. a terrier.. was mixing up with the prem boys start of last season.. worth another chance in my opinion
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Post by NassauDave on Jul 8, 2022 9:39:28 GMT
Good luck to him.
Plenty of ability but his languid style could be frustrating for some.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 8, 2022 9:44:49 GMT
I like Etebo as a player but wouldn’t want him as an AM/10 not enough end product. I like etebo.. a terrier.. was mixing up with the prem boys start of last season.. worth another chance in my opinion Me too but realistically not going to happen. We basically cut our nose off to spite our face with him. Him saying he wanted to go was a really simple situation to deal with and we made a mountain out of a molehill.
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 8, 2022 15:48:16 GMT
maybe he might be giving etebo another chance.. there surely must be a reason as am sure if we really wanted Romaine would could of offered more wages than Cardiff If it's money given we know Cardiff have slashed their budget then that's alarming Why so? It may be true that we could have afforded to pay him more than Cardiff offered but weren't prepared to do so. Maybe they are paying more than we thought he was worth?
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Post by lordb on Jul 8, 2022 16:00:12 GMT
If it's money given we know Cardiff have slashed their budget then that's alarming Why so? It may be true that we could have afforded to pay him more than Cardiff offered but weren't prepared to do so. Maybe they are paying more than we thought he was worth? all the noises from Cardiff are that they are slashing their budget That seems at odds with the idea they are offering more than we can unless our budget is seriously limited, that's the alarming bit Maja hasn't signed either & we know the manager wants him we appear to be skint
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 8, 2022 16:14:25 GMT
Why so? It may be true that we could have afforded to pay him more than Cardiff offered but weren't prepared to do so. Maybe they are paying more than we thought he was worth? all the noises from Cardiff are that they are slashing their budget That seems at odds with the idea they are offering more than we can unless our budget is seriously limited, that's the alarming bit Maja hasn't signed either & we know the manager wants him we appear to be skint “We know the manager wants him”. Does he? How much does he want him. I could have swore I heard him state he thought we probably needed a bigger striker to give us more options.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 11, 2022 5:58:36 GMT
Well no sawyers and no Allen where will the moaners go next anyone who thinks losing these two will make us better is candidly deluded as each days passes I fear we are slipping into very uncomfortable territory Gravity Crocodile territory? ⏱️ Think ut depends on the forward signings but I’d say right now we are heading for a bottom 6 finish and a parting of te ways after a poor start during the World Cup at the latest, we simply don’t have the creativity or the goals in the squad obviously all has heir critics but we will start the season without surridge maje ince vranic fletcher Powell , sima Allen . Sawyers v last year and all but sima contributed something in terms of goals or assists in even then what was a low scoring team right now it’s looking pretty grim
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 11, 2022 6:33:09 GMT
Why so? It may be true that we could have afforded to pay him more than Cardiff offered but weren't prepared to do so. Maybe they are paying more than we thought he was worth? all the noises from Cardiff are that they are slashing their budget That seems at odds with the idea they are offering more than we can unless our budget is seriously limited, that's the alarming bit Maja hasn't signed either & we know the manager wants him we appear to be skint We are either much closer to sanctions than the club are letting on, already in an unofficial agreement with the league that we considerably cut costs to avoid further sanctions or we are putting ourselves under serious restrictions to prepare a case for the league. My guess is on the last one. The manager has been pretty unequivocal about this. We can't afford the best bosmans and we can't afford to buy players. We are only in the market for the cheap end of the freebies, very small fees for players like McCarron or loans. I'd rip your hands off for 50 points now and see where we are financially next summer.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 11, 2022 6:43:22 GMT
all the noises from Cardiff are that they are slashing their budget That seems at odds with the idea they are offering more than we can unless our budget is seriously limited, that's the alarming bit Maja hasn't signed either & we know the manager wants him we appear to be skint We are either much closer to sanctions than the club are letting on, already in an unofficial agreement with the league that we considerably cut costs to avoid further sanctions or we are putting ourselves under serious restrictions to prepare a case for the league. My guess is on the last one. The manager has been pretty unequivocal about this. We can't afford the best bosmans and we can't afford to buy players. We are only in the market for the cheap end of the freebies, very small fees for players like McCarron or loans. I'd rip your hands off for 50 points now and see where we are financially next summer. Doesn’t make sense though. 2021/22 was when our finances would be squeezed most and if we had been in risk of a breach we wouldn’t have been able to do what we did in January. If we were close to the wire now we wouldn’t have been allowed signings. More likely we are waiting on the loan market and a sale of Collins or another to free up cash. Maybe Sawyers is going to be Cardiff’s highest paid player and we prefer our new midfield and want to spend on a striker?
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 11, 2022 6:53:42 GMT
We are either much closer to sanctions than the club are letting on, already in an unofficial agreement with the league that we considerably cut costs to avoid further sanctions or we are putting ourselves under serious restrictions to prepare a case for the league. My guess is on the last one. The manager has been pretty unequivocal about this. We can't afford the best bosmans and we can't afford to buy players. We are only in the market for the cheap end of the freebies, very small fees for players like McCarron or loans. I'd rip your hands off for 50 points now and see where we are financially next summer. Doesn’t make sense though. 2021/22 was when our finances would be squeezed most and if we had been in risk of a breach we wouldn’t have been able to do what we did in January. If we were close to the wire now we wouldn’t have been allowed signings. More likely we are waiting on the loan market and a sale of Collins or another to free up cash. Maybe Sawyers is going to be Cardiff’s highest paid player and we prefer our new midfield and want to spend on a striker? From my limited position I also didn't think it made sense either but the manager seems pretty sure on this and has spelled it out quite clearly. I know he likes to spin a yarn on this front a fair bit but it strikes me he is being serious this summer and it is as bad as he's painting it. I can't argue with you on this as you know too much about this area, but Swiss Ramble also seemed to hint we would have a bit of trouble this year too?
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Post by Gods on Jul 11, 2022 6:55:57 GMT
We are either much closer to sanctions than the club are letting on, already in an unofficial agreement with the league that we considerably cut costs to avoid further sanctions or we are putting ourselves under serious restrictions to prepare a case for the league. My guess is on the last one. The manager has been pretty unequivocal about this. We can't afford the best bosmans and we can't afford to buy players. We are only in the market for the cheap end of the freebies, very small fees for players like McCarron or loans. I'd rip your hands off for 50 points now and see where we are financially next summer. Doesn’t make sense though. 2021/22 was when our finances would be squeezed most and if we had been in risk of a breach we wouldn’t have been able to do what we did in January. If we were close to the wire now we wouldn’t have been allowed signings. More likely we are waiting on the loan market and a sale of Collins or another to free up cash. Maybe Sawyers is going to be Cardiff’s highest paid player and we prefer our new midfield and want to spend on a striker? I think FFP says our wage bill is at its maximum given our incomings which are minimal and shrinking. See dwindling attendances, frozen ticket prices for 10 years, inflation at 10%. So effectively we traded Sawyers for the bloke from Reading whose name esacpaes me.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 11, 2022 8:13:51 GMT
Doesn’t make sense though. 2021/22 was when our finances would be squeezed most and if we had been in risk of a breach we wouldn’t have been able to do what we did in January. If we were close to the wire now we wouldn’t have been allowed signings. More likely we are waiting on the loan market and a sale of Collins or another to free up cash. Maybe Sawyers is going to be Cardiff’s highest paid player and we prefer our new midfield and want to spend on a striker? From my limited position I also didn't think it made sense either but the manager seems pretty sure on this and has spelled it out quite clearly. I know he likes to spin a yarn on this front a fair bit but it strikes me he is being serious this summer and it is as bad as he's painting it. I can't argue with you on this as you know too much about this area, but Swiss Ramble also seemed to hint we would have a bit of trouble this year too? Swiss Ramble was talking about 2021/22 as he was analysing the situation based on the 2020/21 accounts. We will certainly have much more freedom next season but outside of clubs with parachute payments, I suspect we are competitive this season. The reality is no club has money for signings and big wages unless they sell
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