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Post by mcw on Jan 28, 2022 22:15:33 GMT
This squad is more than good enough to beat anybody in this league and if we had it from the start of the season more than good enough to get automatic promotion. It’s just so frustrating how at times we look so good and and others we look clueless. There is still hope, if we can put a run together we can still make a challenge for the play offs. Find the formation and team that suits us and there’s hope. Slowly slowly catch monkey, stick with it and the inconsistencies will iron out. Push this season for top eight, clear out some more deadwood and keep pushing on.
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Post by karl on Jan 28, 2022 22:16:19 GMT
We really need to do well in the FA Cup as it could be our only chance to play at Wembley.
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Post by mcw on Jan 28, 2022 22:18:08 GMT
This squad is more than good enough to beat anybody in this league and if we had it from the start of the season more than good enough to get automatic promotion. It’s just so frustrating how at times we look so good and and others we look clueless. There is still hope, if we can put a run together we can still make a challenge for the play offs. Find the formation and team that suits us and there’s hope. Not convinced enough to put money on it here, I thought we'd turned a corner v Hull & Fulham. For all the huffing and puffing we're not picking up enough points. No play offs this season then a change of management please. This is a strong squad imo This is what really pisses me off. O’Neill will get us there, we just need patience and let him complete the clear out and get a consistent clear vision through the whole squad. Otherwise back to reactionary bullshit and loads of players in the books surplus to requirements….
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Post by yyy on Jan 28, 2022 22:18:53 GMT
Not convinced enough to put money on it here, I thought we'd turned a corner v Hull & Fulham. For all the huffing and puffing we're not picking up enough points. No play offs this season then a change of management please. This is a strong squad imo This is what really pisses me off. O’Neill will get us there, we just need patience and let him complete the clear out and get a consistent clear vision through the whole squad. Otherwise back to reactionary bullshit and loads of players in the books surplus to requirements…. He's signed a shit load, he's a mid table man, imo
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Post by mcw on Jan 28, 2022 22:33:24 GMT
This is what really pisses me off. O’Neill will get us there, we just need patience and let him complete the clear out and get a consistent clear vision through the whole squad. Otherwise back to reactionary bullshit and loads of players in the books surplus to requirements…. He's signed a shit load, he's a mid table man, imo It’s about bringing them together, clearing out the ones who are stop gaps and then developing consistency. We are 60% through, still relying on some stop gaps and remaining deadwood to stabilise the ship. Slowly, slowly develop until the some of the parts is greater than the individual pieces.
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Post by yyy on Jan 28, 2022 22:35:39 GMT
He's signed a shit load, he's a mid table man, imo It’s about bringing them together, clearing out the ones who are stop gaps and then developing consistency. We are 60% through, still relying on some stop gaps and remaining deadwood to stabilise the ship. Slowly, slowly develop until the some of the parts is greater than the individual pieces. Which deadwood? They're all relatively new signings. its January, 25 games in and we're winging it, we don't know our best formation or team. A couple of games of promise then back to square one, if we do make the play offs this division is very very overated
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Post by Championship Potter on Jan 28, 2022 22:46:26 GMT
Plenty of positives from that for me. All the new players have settled well and have clearly improved the team.
Key addition is another CM to play with Baker. He’s literally in a different class to everything else we’ve got in that area - we’ll start controlling games again if we can add the right player there.
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 28, 2022 22:51:57 GMT
Are you brain dead? In a game that in the first half we were kicked from pillar to post with no protection from the most dreadful refereeing display I have seen in a long while, we had the courage and resilience to fight back, take control and almost win the game. Too call that game "dreadful" is disgraceful! For long periods of that game we were dreadful. You have my sympathy! You must be!
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 28, 2022 22:52:28 GMT
All the haters must be wondering what the F**k happened, what made such a big turnaround we were crap then all of a sudden we bring on 2 subs and things change ?
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 28, 2022 22:53:20 GMT
Plenty of positives from that for me. All the new players have settled well and have clearly improved the team. Key addition is another CM to play with Baker. He’s literally in a different class to everything else we’ve got in that area - we’ll start controlling games again if we can add the right player there. Romaine Sawyers?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2022 22:59:16 GMT
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Post by houstonsteve on Jan 28, 2022 23:01:14 GMT
I am so happy no serious damage was done. Shocking and disgusting tackle.
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 28, 2022 23:04:15 GMT
One major factor for a team of players to achieve promotion or the play offs in a season is "Luck"! Of course it isn't the only factor. Michael O'Neil has just not had enough of it even though he is Irish. I never really thought that Stoke were ready to be promoted this season as I believed that we would come straight back down. If you watched the second half today the eleven players on the pitch were superb and they had almost total control of the game against a committed and physical team. It might be nice to make the play offs and there is always a late charge from some team but going back to "luck", how can any team who have so many serious injuries to key players in a period of twelve months ever be consistent and competitive enough to gain promotion. Michael O'Neill and his coaches must think that they have killed a black cat. In my eyes they are turning this club around and can't wait to see continued improvement next season.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 28, 2022 23:15:29 GMT
Really enjoyed that second half, Stokies in great voice.
Powell needs to stay fit for the rest of the season
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Post by sealion100 on Jan 28, 2022 23:22:10 GMT
Agree with Silverdoller No Luck this year but ..... after watching Stoke for over 50 years, think football as gone !!! Watching us tonight get shafted by decisions !!(I know we’ve been poor in a lot of games) that would have been picked up by VAR , as gutted me ! If THB was in. Man City shirt tonight the Huddersfield player would have walked End of ...... Football as had its day I’m sorry to say!!
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 28, 2022 23:44:07 GMT
This is what really pisses me off. O’Neill will get us there, we just need patience and let him complete the clear out and get a consistent clear vision through the whole squad. Otherwise back to reactionary bullshit and loads of players in the books surplus to requirements…. He's signed a shit load, he's a mid table man, imo just google how many Fergie signed in his early days, if it moved, he signed him.
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Post by steve66 on Jan 28, 2022 23:46:47 GMT
Unfortunate injury to mario but fortunate in that Powell then dictated the play, got to start next game with the eleven who finished apart from Campbell who I’m afraid we are carrying at the moment
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Post by Championship Potter on Jan 29, 2022 0:06:26 GMT
Plenty of positives from that for me. All the new players have settled well and have clearly improved the team. Key addition is another CM to play with Baker. He’s literally in a different class to everything else we’ve got in that area - we’ll start controlling games again if we can add the right player there. Ronaine Sawyers? Maybe. I do like watching him even if his workrate is questionable. Baker / Sawyers / Powell would certainly be entertaining.
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Post by Anto1962 on Jan 29, 2022 0:55:37 GMT
Why does Allen always get pushed off the ball so easily or go into a 70/30 challenge in his favour which he always loses? Why is every one of Allen's minor mistakes picked upon when he's clearly had a decent game since he came on? Absolutely spot on.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 29, 2022 2:35:43 GMT
This squad is more than good enough to beat anybody in this league and if we had it from the start of the season more than good enough to get automatic promotion. It’s just so frustrating how at times we look so good and and others we look clueless. There is still hope, if we can put a run together we can still make a challenge for the play offs. Find the formation and team that suits us and there’s hope. But right now in order for that to happen, we are relying on other teams losing. We don’t have a goalkeeper good enough for automatic promotion, no matter who we may have outfield. We also don’t concentrate for long enough to see out games. I do think though, that if Powell stays fit, he will bring out the best in Baker, Campbell, JPB, DWP, Fletcher and Brown. Hell, Surridge may even start to get back into scoring opportunities with him in the team. I’ve missed Powell. He makes the entire team click in possession and his energy helps Brown press out of it too.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 29, 2022 3:04:24 GMT
Maybe. I do like watching him even if his workrate is questionable. Baker / Sawyers / Powell would certainly be entertaining. I still prefer Thompson-Baker-Powell. Thompson can do the clean up while Baker can try and link up with him and Powell.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 29, 2022 3:09:08 GMT
Plenty of positives from that for me. All the new players have settled well and have clearly improved the team. Key addition is another CM to play with Baker. He’s literally in a different class to everything else we’ve got in that area - we’ll start controlling games again if we can add the right player there. Main positive was that we fought back, away from home, to get a point against a “rival” for playoffs.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 29, 2022 3:10:53 GMT
I support MoN and his plan looks to build a younger team. I see no point in going up as we simply would not be competitive and right back down. You can see the potential of what he is building but it will take another year. I see every point in going up. The money would make the team a lot better if we still chose the policy of investing in youth and development. We’d also get to watch us lose to Man City rather than to Derby.
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Post by Championship Potter on Jan 29, 2022 3:58:26 GMT
Maybe. I do like watching him even if his workrate is questionable. Baker / Sawyers / Powell would certainly be entertaining. I still prefer Thompson-Baker-Powell. Thompson can do the clean up while Baker can try and link up with him and Powell. Can’t argue with that. Thompson looked rusty today but he’s the best we’ve got for that role currently.
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Post by Championship Potter on Jan 29, 2022 4:00:08 GMT
Plenty of positives from that for me. All the new players have settled well and have clearly improved the team. Key addition is another CM to play with Baker. He’s literally in a different class to everything else we’ve got in that area - we’ll start controlling games again if we can add the right player there. Main positive was that we fought back, away from home, to get a point against a “rival” for playoffs. Can’t argue with that, particularly given we were well off our best in the first half. Points away against play off contenders aren’t to be sniffed at.
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Post by jokker on Jan 29, 2022 4:42:40 GMT
This squad is more than good enough to beat anybody in this league and if we had it from the start of the season more than good enough to get automatic promotion. It’s just so frustrating how at times we look so good and and others we look clueless. There is still hope, if we can put a run together we can still make a challenge for the play offs. Find the formation and team that suits us and there’s hope. But right now in order for that to happen, we are relying on other teams losing. Over 19 games that is unlikely not to happen. We'd still be relying on ourselves to win a lot of games. That is also unlikely to happen, as we, despite a strong set of players, don't know our best team, or should I say, haven't been able to play our best eleven at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 9:53:32 GMT
This squad is more than good enough to beat anybody in this league and if we had it from the start of the season more than good enough to get automatic promotion. It’s just so frustrating how at times we look so good and and others we look clueless. There is still hope, if we can put a run together we can still make a challenge for the play offs. Find the formation and team that suits us and there’s hope. But right now in order for that to happen, we are relying on other teams losing. All teamS are going to drop points to be fair. Any team wanting that 6 th spot just need a good run of form. Up for grabs and still a lot of games to play
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 29, 2022 11:13:59 GMT
I don’t normally complain too much about referees but this is an absolute disgrace. Yes we’ve been shit but he needs some kind of investigation! Don’t worry Met Police will sort it out. C'mon - give our marvellous chappies in the Met a fair crack - there are really serious for them to deal with, like whose eating the cake!! Oh sorry, we all know it is that fat twat in thye SNP.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 16:30:55 GMT
you normally get what you deserve in football but not this time we deserved to beat ten men huddersfield by 3 or 4 goals 9 out of 10 refs , you are sent off for a studs up lunge at a players knee 9 out 0f 10 refs , clean taking the player out, is a penalty
ludicrous result , totally unjustified
lucky huddersfield , unlucky us
i hate VAR
But with VAR , we comfortably won that game
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 18:56:17 GMT
you normally get what you deserve in football but not this time we deserved to beat ten men huddersfield by 3 or 4 goals 9 out of 10 refs , you are sent off for a studs up lunge at a players knee 9 out 0f 10 refs , clean taking the player out, is a penalty ludicrous result , totally unjustified lucky huddersfield , unlucky us i hate VAR But with VAR , we comfortably won that game The fact that one of their players was berating the ref and their fans were booing him were the most baffling thing. Just about every report have seen is critical of the ref's performance, not just the red card.
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