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Post by onefatcopper on Jun 29, 2022 19:47:57 GMT
He’s not the one who strangely looks like Gollum !
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 29, 2022 19:53:15 GMT
Given all of the discussions around the legality of contracts etc and how nobody can offer him a contract until he's seventeen, how have we been able to get him to sign a deal, albeit one starting in September? Could any club have done that, then?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 29, 2022 19:56:55 GMT
Given all of the discussions around the legality of contracts etc and how nobody can offer him a contract until he's seventeen, how have we been able to get him to sign a deal, albeit one starting in September? Could any club have done that, then? I think he and his family have simply pledged that he will be staying
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Post by riproaringagain on Jun 29, 2022 19:59:28 GMT
I was thinking more City or Chelsea
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 29, 2022 20:00:16 GMT
Good on him. If he carries on developing and we don't get anywhere, then we'll all wish him well if he moves on up. I think he's made the right decision. I'll second that. Good lad. Gone for continuity and sticking with what you know, rather than having his head turned with probable promises and dream scenarios.
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Post by stokiemac on Jun 29, 2022 20:01:42 GMT
Given all of the discussions around the legality of contracts etc and how nobody can offer him a contract until he's seventeen, how have we been able to get him to sign a deal, albeit one starting in September? Could any club have done that, then? I think he and his family have simply pledged that he will be staying I think that signing the scholarship has helped in some sort of protection, getting him officially on a scholarship program from 16-18 with presumably a pre written contract ready for his 17th Birthday which will end the scholarship
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 29, 2022 20:03:49 GMT
I was thinking more City or Chelsea Dunner matter now mate. I suppose it'll come out in the wash. If he keeps on developing like he is he'll be playing for one of those clubs eventually though for sure.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 29, 2022 20:05:44 GMT
Given all of the discussions around the legality of contracts etc and how nobody can offer him a contract until he's seventeen, how have we been able to get him to sign a deal, albeit one starting in September? Could any club have done that, then? The way I read it is he's signed a scholarship deal which takes him into a contract on his 17th birthday.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 20:06:28 GMT
Mad how people always miss the word if 🤣🤣🤣 Bayern you and a few others have completely lost your shit over this today. Just gracefully admit you jumped the gun with your criticism of the club and made yourself look a bit of a nob. Sits back in the full knowledge it'll never happen. No. I said if it was to happen. As I said we should have always been the best offer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 20:07:09 GMT
But they did. We should have always been the best offer and we were. It’s basic stuff. Can never admit you got it wrong I didn’t get anything wrong. Seriously do people not know what the if means?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 20:07:41 GMT
But they did. We should have always been the best offer and we were. It’s basic stuff. Everything is black and white in your world isn't it. Real life just doesn't work that way. In real life we got the deal done like we always should have done. Happy days.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 20:08:29 GMT
I don’t think it needs praise tbh. As I said our package should have absolutely been the best. Good stuff that it was but it should have been. One of the basic tenets of man management is the 'reward'. It is widely accepted that 'what is rewarded, is repeated'. The efficacy of encouragement for a task well done should not be underestimated. The task, in this instance, was not guaranteed to be simple or straightforward ( as various disparate people were involved on both sides). Nothing could be taken for granted and the club needed to be consistent in it's attitude and appraoch. A pat on all backs is appropriate and deserved. For doing the basics? That’s why it would have been such a fuck up if they didn’t do it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 29, 2022 20:09:33 GMT
I know for a fact he's going to Leeds. Believe me or not. Ooops!!!
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Post by Robo10 on Jun 29, 2022 20:13:50 GMT
I'm glad people spent several pages last night saying he is shit and its no great loss, thats a full on facepalm
16 years old, plays u23s, plays for England, regarded as a hot property by all, one of our own and here to stay
Good lad
Knicker wetters were proper out in force last night!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 29, 2022 20:20:20 GMT
I genuinely hope he has a great career ahead of him and even if he’s only with us for a short period it would be great if he did go on to play at the highest level for club and country.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 29, 2022 20:27:19 GMT
Bayern you and a few others have completely lost your shit over this today. Just gracefully admit you jumped the gun with your criticism of the club and made yourself look a bit of a nob. Sits back in the full knowledge it'll never happen. No. I said if it was to happen. As I said we should have always been the best offer. As predicted
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Post by liathroid on Jun 29, 2022 20:28:23 GMT
Can never admit you got it wrong I didn’t get anything wrong. Seriously do people not know what the if means?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 20:29:34 GMT
No. I said if it was to happen. As I said we should have always been the best offer. As predicted But I did 🤣 That’s why not doing would have been so bad and the repercussions for that so severe. There should have been no one offering a better package than us.
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Post by Northy on Jun 29, 2022 20:30:34 GMT
Come on Emre, do eet for oatcakes and lime kiln back Sign a contract in September and then move on if you want to, you know it makes sense for us Stokies. He obviously listened to me earlier today 😁
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 20:30:39 GMT
One of the basic tenets of man management is the 'reward'. It is widely accepted that 'what is rewarded, is repeated'. The efficacy of encouragement for a task well done should not be underestimated. The task, in this instance, was not guaranteed to be simple or straightforward ( as various disparate people were involved on both sides). Nothing could be taken for granted and the club needed to be consistent in it's attitude and appraoch. A pat on all backs is appropriate and deserved. For doing the basics? That’s why it would have been such a fuck up if they didn’t do it. The basics? To be fair you don't know what was going on, neither do any of us but if a far bigger club were interested then they deserve credit. By basics you mean what exactly? You know the details of the deal? Please share with us sll
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Post by Billy the kid on Jun 29, 2022 20:31:03 GMT
I'm glad people spent several pages last night saying he is shit and its no great loss, thats a full on facepalm 16 years old, plays u23s, plays for England, regarded as a hot property by all, one of our own and here to stay Good lad Knicker wetters were proper out in force last night! Chelsea, Manchester United. Manchester City, Liverpool and ehem Leeds were all watching closely..... yet he wouldn't have been a loss.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 20:35:19 GMT
For doing the basics? That’s why it would have been such a fuck up if they didn’t do it. The basics? To be fair you don't know what was going on, neither do any of us but if a far bigger club were interested then they deserve credit. By basics you mean what exactly? You know the details of the deal? Please share with us sll We don’t. As I said we should have always been the best offer in town. It’s the way youth players have been doing it for 3/4 seasons now. Game time is decider. And no one should have been offering more of that than us.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jun 29, 2022 20:38:13 GMT
Stoke City you little tease you...
Fucking great news
Good feelings about this season
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 29, 2022 20:41:07 GMT
As predicted But I did 🤣 That’s why not doing would have been so bad and the repercussions for that so severe. There should have been no one offering a better package than us.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 20:41:37 GMT
The basics? To be fair you don't know what was going on, neither do any of us but if a far bigger club were interested then they deserve credit. By basics you mean what exactly? You know the details of the deal? Please share with us sll We don’t. As I said we should have always been the best offer in town. It’s the way youth players have been doing it for 3/4 seasons now. Game time is decider. And no one should have been offering more of that than us. Players are poached by bigger clubs at that age constantly. Were simply not in a position to match Prem clubs at the moment if one made made a decent offer. It's not basics, it's the players decision at the end of the day
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Post by anchorman on Jun 29, 2022 20:41:48 GMT
Great news! I always thought (and hoped) he would see his future at Stoke & especially with him and his family being Stoke fans. Great stuff. Now Fuck off Leeds!
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jun 29, 2022 20:43:56 GMT
To be fair to Bayern, there are a fair few people sticking the boot in who were saying just a few hours ago how those running the club could do absolutely fuck all to stop him going to Leeds, now praising those running the club for stopping him going to Leeds! It's been a rollercoaster thread!
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 29, 2022 20:46:05 GMT
Suddenly I'm feeling a lot better after today's news.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 29, 2022 20:47:05 GMT
We don’t. As I said we should have always been the best offer in town. It’s the way youth players have been doing it for 3/4 seasons now. Game time is decider. And no one should have been offering more of that than us. Players are poached by bigger clubs at that age constantly. Were simply not in a position to match Prem clubs at the moment if one made made a decent offer. It's not basics, it's the players decision at the end of the day We are and we were. We have done. Like it should have always happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 20:49:11 GMT
Players are poached by bigger clubs at that age constantly. Were simply not in a position to match Prem clubs at the moment if one made made a decent offer. It's not basics, it's the players decision at the end of the day We are and we were. We have done. Like it should have always happened. Despite us only doing the basics am sure you'll agree is great news that yet another youngster has pledged his future to the club. 👍 They must be doing something right
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