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Post by cdf on Jun 23, 2021 20:53:53 GMT
I’m not nervous about playing Germany 🇩🇪 with what I have seen tonight. It’s coming home!
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Post by starkiller on Jun 23, 2021 20:55:01 GMT
Pretty much always being in easier groups never helps us later on.
We'll see. But it's been pedestrian from us so far.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 23, 2021 20:56:10 GMT
Germany haven't been very good, but they look better than England.
They have had to play much tougher opposition.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2021 20:56:24 GMT
Well the Germans are toothless up front and paceless at the back but they have know how as usual. Great chance for us to beat them but I do fear the worst.
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Post by franklin on Jun 23, 2021 20:56:58 GMT
The worst possible game I'd want.
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2021 20:57:13 GMT
Fair play to Hungary, been competitive in each game
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Post by foster on Jun 23, 2021 20:57:51 GMT
Rather play France or Portugal tbh
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2021 20:58:26 GMT
Rather play France or Portugal tbh Than Germany? Bonkers
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Post by telfordstokie on Jun 23, 2021 20:59:04 GMT
We are massively on the weaker side of the draw now - just somehow need to get past the Germans next week.
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2021 21:00:20 GMT
We are massively on the weaker side of the draw now - just somehow need to get past the Germans next week. We will beat them Everyone will go crazy Then lose the next game
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Post by Goonie on Jun 23, 2021 21:02:01 GMT
I don't think I can cope with the media hype/bollocks playing Germany
Wembley 66 Wembley 96 2 world Wars blah blah blah
Funnily enough the Germans see Italy as their real rivals
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Post by foster on Jun 23, 2021 21:02:20 GMT
Rather play France or Portugal tbh Than Germany? Bonkers I'm half German so I have my reasons.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 23, 2021 21:02:26 GMT
Rather play France or Portugal tbh Than Germany? Bonkers Ze Germans were a totally different team than when they played Portugal. Fancy us after what I've seen. Need to step up a gear now. Then again.. This is England.
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2021 21:02:45 GMT
I don't think I can cope with the media hype/bollocks playing Germany Wembley 66 Wembley 96 2 world Wats blah blah blah Funnily enough the Germans see Italy as their real rivals Not the Dutch or French? Interesting
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2021 21:03:02 GMT
I'm half German so I have my reasons. Ah, more at stake
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 23, 2021 21:03:17 GMT
I’m not nervous about playing Germany 🇩🇪 with what I have seen tonight. It’s coming home! If Germany play at the same level they did tonight, it’s up for grabs. If the one that annihilated Portugal show up, it’s gonna be a messy exit from the tournament.
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Post by cdf on Jun 23, 2021 21:08:45 GMT
We are massively on the weaker side of the draw now - just somehow need to get past the Germans next week. We will. It will be the most boring game to watch next Tuesday but we will get through
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Post by dexta on Jun 23, 2021 21:52:28 GMT
Ze Germans were a totally different team than when they played Portugal. Fancy us after what I've seen. Need to step up a gear now. Then again.. This is England. cracking drama series this is England was
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Post by musik on Jun 23, 2021 21:57:35 GMT
That player Schäfer in Hungary was very good and very sad at the end, of course.
I felt sorry for them, considering how surprisingly well they fought.
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Post by zerps on Jun 24, 2021 6:59:40 GMT
I don't think I can cope with the media hype/bollocks playing Germany Wembley 66 Wembley 96 2 world Wars blah blah blah Funnily enough the Germans see Italy as their real rivals Holland Shirley
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Post by franklin on Jun 24, 2021 7:27:58 GMT
I don't think I can cope with the media hype/bollocks playing Germany Wembley 66 Wembley 96 2 world Wars blah blah blah Funnily enough the Germans see Italy as their real rivals Holland Shirley You would think so but in one of the pre game chats Italy were named as the the number 1 rivals.
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Post by zerps on Jun 24, 2021 7:51:53 GMT
You would think so but in one of the pre game chats Italy were named as the the number 1 rivals. The Germans I know class the dutch as their rivals If you go back far enough I guess they’re all Germany’s rivals. 1939 ish.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 11:46:47 GMT
Germans and Dutch massive rivalry. I don't think the England/Germany thing works both ways too much. Italy an odd one. Hardly met in major tournaments , one in recent memory .
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 24, 2021 20:38:27 GMT
You would think so but in one of the pre game chats Italy were named as the the number 1 rivals. I think that’s more of a “hoodoo” thing for the Germans, the perception is that Italy always beat them and they have a bit of a complex about it (bit like us with them really). Holland are the “natural” #1 rivals I’d say.
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Post by foster on Jun 24, 2021 22:55:25 GMT
I'm half German so I have my reasons. Ah, more at stake At least one guaranteed to make it through to the quarters though.
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Post by franklin on Jun 25, 2021 7:16:54 GMT
You would think so but in one of the pre game chats Italy were named as the the number 1 rivals. I think that’s more of a “hoodoo” thing for the Germans, the perception is that Italy always beat them and they have a bit of a complex about it (bit like us with them really). Holland are the “natural” #1 rivals I’d say. In our eyes it makes sense I was surprised when I think Klinsman said Italy.
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Post by bighatbilly on Jun 25, 2021 9:11:28 GMT
Yeah - don't think we even appear on the rivalry radar of most German fans. Without exception all of my German friends are completely mystified and dismayed by the England rivalry and especially our wonderful press whipping things up.
I'd agree with others here - it's Holland for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 9:38:32 GMT
I don't think I can cope with the media hype/bollocks playing Germany Wembley 66 Wembley 96 2 world Wars blah blah blah Funnily enough the Germans see Italy as their real rivals If you do the drinking game where you have to take a hot every time 1966 is mentioned on Tuesday on TV you'll be out cold by kick off. The usual stupid cliches they go through. Germany have been to many finals since then and won and lost them. Hardly one for them to still worry about.
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Post by kingdong on Jun 26, 2021 3:32:41 GMT
I think that’s more of a “hoodoo” thing for the Germans, the perception is that Italy always beat them and they have a bit of a complex about it (bit like us with them really). Holland are the “natural” #1 rivals I’d say. In our eyes it makes sense I was surprised when I think Klinsman said Italy. It probably stems from the 2006 World Cup semi final when Italy knocked out the hosts in the semi final.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 4:48:32 GMT
I saw that interview before the Germany game where Klinsmann was asked about who the Germans considered as their main rivals.
He mentioned France and the Netherlands as geographic rivals, but said to most Germans it would definitely be Italy as football rivals. England weren't even on the radar for most Germans.
(The Italians had won the World Cup 4 times (1934, 1938, 1982, and 2006) and the Euros once (1968). Germany also have 4 World Cup wins (1954, 1974, 1990, 2014) and 3 Euros (1972, 1980, 1996)).
He also said the Italians have the best overall record against the Germans. I've since googled this and Italy have won 15, drawn 12, and lost just 8 out of 35 games versus the Germans.
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