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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2021 10:15:03 GMT
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 21, 2021 10:30:19 GMT
Didn't he have one arm? Don't tell me we are signing a one armed keeper... For info. The "one armed" drummer is Rick Allen of Def Leppard. Had his arm ripped off in an accident, and sewn back on. Still plays. Not sure he had it sewn back on...when I last saw them at NEC he was playing without it, single handedly the best drummer around (sorry ) He adapted his foot pedal to compensate
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 21, 2021 11:48:47 GMT
I’d rather we cash in on Davies and have Bursik as Number 1 to be honest. Nothing against Davies but Bursik needs to be playing and if we can get a few quid for him to get us out of the shit I’m all for it. Risky if he gets injured or loses confidence.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2021 12:00:50 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Jun 21, 2021 12:02:13 GMT
Maybe we thinking of playing with two keepers to get those extra clean sheets
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Post by march4 on Jun 21, 2021 13:56:45 GMT
I thought we were uncluttering the squad.
We have promising youngsters whose progress will be blocked by this type of signing.
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Post by reddipotter on Jun 21, 2021 14:05:36 GMT
He was good in Led Zeppelin.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 21, 2021 14:24:17 GMT
Didn't he have one arm? Don't tell me we are signing a one armed keeper... For info. The "one armed" drummer is Rick Allen of Def Leppard. Had his arm ripped off in an accident, and sewn back on. Still plays. With a massively modified drum kit of his own design.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 21, 2021 17:04:31 GMT
That’s funny as we signed Davies in June 19 and butland left in October 20. I called that back up. But hey who knows
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 21, 2021 17:07:10 GMT
My point is that loads on here reckon they know this n they know that but really they know fuck all but they are guessing. I wasn’t saying this goalie wouldn’t be cheaper but it does my head in when folk 2nd guess people’s wages etc So you're just venting then? Ok, fair enough. It's a messageboard. What would you like people to talk about? If it's only about things they can see with their own eyes people would only talk about 90 minutes of football and nothing else. What a dull board that would be. Anyway, you crack on. Something factual now and again. So anyway you crack on
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Post by neddy on Jun 21, 2021 17:10:48 GMT
Maybe we thinking of playing with two keepers to get those extra clean sheets Crikey that got me thinking can you actually play 2 goalkeepers in an 11? I have no idea!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2021 17:42:26 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 21, 2021 18:09:38 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2021 18:27:13 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. Seems a bit of an odd one Wonder if Bursik may yet end up on loan somewhere? It's rare that there isn't a clearly-defined No.1 and No. 2 at any club. And if Bursik stays, he's got to be No.1. And that means a demotivated, messed around, on relatively big money Davies spending his final year on the bench, with no intention of re-signing and joining the list of squad members who'll definitely be leaving this time next year I know Bonham probably won't be on much money, but very surprised his best option is sitting in our main stand. And strange that even with our FFP situation, we can make him an offer as maybe our No.3 keeper that he considers more attractive, in the round, than starting for a League 1 club
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Post by Trouserdog on Jun 21, 2021 18:27:15 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. Yet only last season we were scrabbling around signing Lonergan and some Finnish bloke on short-term deals because we didn't have a third-choice keeper when Davies, Bursik and Gunn were all unavailable for one reason or another. If we can get someone competent in on a low wage to be third choice, it makes sense to me. One injury to a keeper and without a third choice you're already struggling to fill the bench. We probably want to loan out the young keepers and develop them- much better they can play 30 to 40 games further down the leagues than be hanging around our training ground just in case of emergencies.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 21, 2021 18:33:58 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. Yet only last season we were scrabbling around signing Lonergan and some Finnish bloke on short-term deals because we didn't have a third-choice keeper when Davies, Bursik and Gunn were all unavailable for one reason or another. If we can get someone competent in on a low wage to be third choice, it makes sense to me. One injury to a keeper and without a third choice you're already struggling to fill the bench. We probably want to loan out the young keepers and develop them- much better they can play 30 to 40 games further down the leagues than be hanging around our training ground just in case of emergencies. Which worked. Sign someone who is expecting to play 0 games. Not someone who will be on ok money and wants to play.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 21, 2021 18:36:35 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. Seems a bit of an odd one Wonder if Bursik may yet end up on loan somewhere? It's rare that there isn't a clearly-defined No.1 and No. 2 at any club. And if Bursik stays, he's got to be No.1. And that means a demotivated, messed around, on relatively big money Davies spending his final year on the bench, with no intention of re-signing and joining the list of squad members who'll definitely be leaving this time next year I know Bonham probably won't be on much money, but very surprised his best option is sitting in our main stand. And strange that even with our FFP situation, we can make him an offer as maybe our No.3 keeper that he considers more attractive, in the round, than starting for a League 1 club Bursik needs to play most of the games this season for me. Sending him out on loan would be beyond fucked up. Like we didn't need Gunn unless we got rid of Davies, we don't need this fella.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jun 21, 2021 18:38:38 GMT
Yet only last season we were scrabbling around signing Lonergan and some Finnish bloke on short-term deals because we didn't have a third-choice keeper when Davies, Bursik and Gunn were all unavailable for one reason or another. If we can get someone competent in on a low wage to be third choice, it makes sense to me. One injury to a keeper and without a third choice you're already struggling to fill the bench. We probably want to loan out the young keepers and develop them- much better they can play 30 to 40 games further down the leagues than be hanging around our training ground just in case of emergencies. Which worked. Sign someone who is expecting to play 0 games. Not someone who will be on ok money and wants to play. Might not be anyone available who fits the bill. Ideally you're looking for a 35+ year old who's still Ok but happy to get a final pay day. However, I'd rather have someone signed up now rather than be in a mad panic having to bring in a free agent at short notice if the worst-case scenario happens. Most clubs have 3 keepers on the books these days don't they?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 21, 2021 18:43:19 GMT
Which worked. Sign someone who is expecting to play 0 games. Not someone who will be on ok money and wants to play. Might not be anyone available who fits the bill. Ideally you're looking for a 35+ year old who's still Ok but happy to get a final pay day. However, I'd rather have someone signed up now rather than be in a mad panic having to bring in a free agent at short notice if the worst-case scenario happens. Most clubs have 3 keepers on the books these days don't they? They do but 3 all expecting to be number one? I mean ideally yeah that's where you want to do. We're an FFP mess with a fragile bunch of blokes who don't seem to like the motivation competition can bring. I dunno, I just don't think we need 3 keepers challenging for #1 spot.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jun 21, 2021 18:45:31 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. Seems a bit of an odd one Wonder if Bursik may yet end up on loan somewhere? It's rare that there isn't a clearly-defined No.1 and No. 2 at any club. And if Bursik stays, he's got to be No.1. And that means a demotivated, messed around, on relatively big money Davies spending his final year on the bench, with no intention of re-signing and joining the list of squad members who'll definitely be leaving this time next year I know Bonham probably won't be on much money, but very surprised his best option is sitting in our main stand. And strange that even with our FFP situation, we can make him an offer as maybe our No.3 keeper that he considers more attractive, in the round, than starting for a League 1 club I'd be surprised if Bursik was loaned out- at least initially. Reckon MON will want to give him a chance to stake a claim at the start of the season. However, what if he looks shaky and MON decides he's not ready for Championship football? Having a competent third choice at least gives us the option of going down the loan route should we need to, as that would be infinitely preferable to him spending the whole season on our bench at his age. This signing looks to me like a sensible insurance policy to cover a couple of scenarios: mainly injury, but also the possibility of JB needing another loan. Bonham's not going to need to be on high wages here to be bettering his salary at Gillingham. I'd be surprised if he's even on 2k a week there.
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Post by theonlooker on Jun 21, 2021 18:46:16 GMT
Might not be anyone available who fits the bill. Ideally you're looking for a 35+ year old who's still Ok but happy to get a final pay day. However, I'd rather have someone signed up now rather than be in a mad panic having to bring in a free agent at short notice if the worst-case scenario happens. Most clubs have 3 keepers on the books these days don't they? They do but 3 all expecting to be number one? I mean ideally yeah that's where you want to do. We're an FFP mess with a fragile bunch of blokes who don't seem to like the motivation competition can bring. I dunno, I just don't think we need 3 keepers challenging for #1 spot. That's why I think well see Bursik as 1, Bonham as 2 with Blondy out on a good loan with a recall. Davies out to the highest bidder. Bursik and Bonham will be a lot cheaper than Davies and Gunn surely, which will help ease FFP elsewhere in the squad?
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Post by Trouserdog on Jun 21, 2021 18:49:25 GMT
They do but 3 all expecting to be number one? I mean ideally yeah that's where you want to do. We're an FFP mess with a fragile bunch of blokes who don't seem to like the motivation competition can bring. I dunno, I just don't think we need 3 keepers challenging for #1 spot. That's why I think well see Bursik as 1, Bonham as 2 with Blondy out on a good loan with a recall. Davies out to the highest bidder. Bursik and Bonham will be a lot cheaper than Davies and Gunn surely, which will help ease FFP elsewhere in the squad? This is a possibility as well. Could be that we know someone's interested in Davies and we've decided it's better to get this guy in ahead of that happening. Who knows?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2021 18:51:46 GMT
Seems a bit of an odd one Wonder if Bursik may yet end up on loan somewhere? It's rare that there isn't a clearly-defined No.1 and No. 2 at any club. And if Bursik stays, he's got to be No.1. And that means a demotivated, messed around, on relatively big money Davies spending his final year on the bench, with no intention of re-signing and joining the list of squad members who'll definitely be leaving this time next year I know Bonham probably won't be on much money, but very surprised his best option is sitting in our main stand. And strange that even with our FFP situation, we can make him an offer as maybe our No.3 keeper that he considers more attractive, in the round, than starting for a League 1 club I'd be surprised if Bursik was loaned out- at least initially. Reckon MON will want to give him a chance to stake a claim at the start of the season. However, what if he looks shaky and MON decides he's not ready for Championship football? Having a competent third choice at least gives us the option of going down the loan route should we need to, as that would be infinitely preferable to him spending the whole season on our bench at his age. This signing looks to me like a sensible insurance policy to cover a couple of scenarios: mainly injury, but also the possibility of JB needing another loan. Bonham's not going to need to be on high wages here to be bettering his salary at Gillingham. I'd be surprised if he's even on 2k a week there. Yeah - fair point on the wage disparity with the lower leagues. Just depends on how much he'll value having a sniff of the pitch. If Davies stays, he won't get one here. But, as you say, at that level, an extra grand will be very attractive, even if it comes with no pitch time and hinder him when he's going for his next deal. I think we've just got to roll with Bursik now, and we must've seen enough of him to know whether that's what we'll be doing. He's just going to get better and better.
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Post by christhepotter on Jun 21, 2021 19:02:07 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. Don’t most squads have 3 keepers 🤷♂️
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 21, 2021 19:05:43 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. Don’t most squads have 3 keepers 🤷♂️ They do - but this guy seems to have an unusual profile for a Championship No.3 A 27 year-old who has been a regular for his various clubs over the last 4 seasons, who has turned down a new deal to remain the starter for a decent League 1 club, and who has rattled up nearly 200 games.
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Post by christhepotter on Jun 21, 2021 19:53:42 GMT
Don’t most squads have 3 keepers 🤷♂️ They do - but this guy seems to have an unusual profile for a Championship No.3 A 27 year-old who has been a regular for his various clubs over the last 4 seasons, who has turned down a new deal to remain the starter for a decent League 1 club, and who has rattled up nearly 200 games. Maybe MoN wants all 3 to fight for the two places in the match day squad
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 21, 2021 20:25:46 GMT
Totally unecessary unless we sell Davies. We don’t need another keeper we have 2 good keepers who can fight for the number 1 spot. This will be a total waste of a signing when we clearly need to fill other positions
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 21, 2021 22:01:42 GMT
It's like the twilight zone from last summer.
Yet even with experience of what actually happened refuse to accept we need 3 keepers.
They just rather micro annalise and 'worry' about what choice a player is.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 22, 2021 7:20:39 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 22, 2021 7:30:18 GMT
What about a bottom 12 Championship side?
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