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Jun 13, 2021 7:39:59 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jun 13, 2021 7:39:59 GMT
Didn't lose the bet though the game was postponed. Bets should be null and void if the game was never played it would of been null an void.. Denmark should of been at least 2 up before the incident.. but they weren’t.. it’s the joys of gambling They should do it as a good will gesture, they have coined millions off the back of somebody's unfortunate incident. All the money would have been piled on denmark
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Jun 13, 2021 7:44:07 GMT
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Post by mowlee on Jun 13, 2021 7:44:07 GMT
if the game was never played it would of been null an void.. Denmark should of been at least 2 up before the incident.. but they weren’t.. it’s the joys of gambling They should do it as a good will gesture, they have coined millions of somebody's unfortunate incident. All the money would have been piled on denmark yeah I get what your saying.. all the money would of been piled on Denmark.. Denise John an Peter have woke up a good few million richer this morning that’s for sure
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Jun 13, 2021 8:12:55 GMT
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Post by hotterpotter on Jun 13, 2021 8:12:55 GMT
Russia are mince. For all the crap England get, they've still won more than Belgium Belgium's population is 11m. 95% of the 11 million are men aged between 18 and 35 who like football. Fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 10:08:32 GMT
They should do it as a good will gesture, they have coined millions of somebody's unfortunate incident. All the money would have been piled on denmark yeah I get what your saying.. all the money would of been piled on Denmark.. Denise John an Peter have woke up a good few million richer this morning that’s for sure The game went ahead and was a cash out option. Why should they refund money? Nonsense to suggest. Was 0-0 at the time of the incident and Denmark agreed to play on. It wasn't a money making exercise it was a genuine result
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Jun 13, 2021 10:13:59 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jun 13, 2021 10:13:59 GMT
yeah I get what your saying.. all the money would of been piled on Denmark.. Denise John an Peter have woke up a good few million richer this morning that’s for sure The game went ahead and was a cash out option. Why should they refund money? Nonsense to suggest. Was 0-0 at the time of the incident and Denmark agreed to play on. It wasn't a money making exercise it was a genuine result A game suspended for 90 minutes after such circumstances should be null and void, it wasn't an injury it was a near fatality that stopped the game for a hour and half.
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Jun 13, 2021 10:15:45 GMT
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Post by samwidge on Jun 13, 2021 10:15:45 GMT
Not wanting to detract from all the wonderful outpouring of love and support for Christian Eriksen, which is of course fantastic and heart warming, however on a side note relating to the euros in general... I see that Daniel Bachmann is in the Austria squad for there game against North Macedonian. Arnie too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 10:17:39 GMT
The game went ahead and was a cash out option. Why should they refund money? Nonsense to suggest. Was 0-0 at the time of the incident and Denmark agreed to play on. It wasn't a money making exercise it was a genuine result A game suspended for 90 minutes after such circumstances should be null and void, it wasn't an injury it was a near fatality that stopped the game for a hour and half. the game was completed so why should it be null and void? It wasn't replayed justd elayed. Those who bet on Finland would have been paid out and rightly so so why should it be different to Denmark?
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Jun 13, 2021 10:19:59 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jun 13, 2021 10:19:59 GMT
A game suspended for 90 minutes after such circumstances should be null and void, it wasn't an injury it was a near fatality that stopped the game for a hour and half. the game was completed so why should it be null and void? It wasn't replayed justd elayed. Those who bet on Finland would have been paid out and rightly so so why should it be different to Denmark? Because of the circumstances, no way players played with their heads at the restart. I bet on a 90 minute game of football not a game of football of two halves 90 minutes apart where one teams player collapsed and nearly died. The odds given and bet placed were on a 90 minute game of football under normal circumstances
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 10:24:00 GMT
the game was completed so why should it be null and void? It wasn't replayed justd elayed. Those who bet on Finland would have been paid out and rightly so so why should it be different to Denmark? Because of the circumstances, no way players played with their heads at the restart. I bet on a 90 minute game of football not a game of football of two halves 90 minutes apart where one teams player collapsed and nearly died. I see that but had Denmark and was a cash out option at the time. For the sake of a few pence I could have taken the stake money back. These are circumstances that are out of a bookmakers hands and not their obligation to do so. Did any other bookie do that? by that logic they should have withheld money placed on Finland On a different note N Macedonia are 9/2. Not bad odds for a country that has had some real impressive results of late including the Germany game.
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Jun 13, 2021 10:27:48 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jun 13, 2021 10:27:48 GMT
Because of the circumstances, no way players played with their heads at the restart. I bet on a 90 minute game of football not a game of football of two halves 90 minutes apart where one teams player collapsed and nearly died. I see that but had Denmark and was a cash out option at the time. For the sake of a few pence I could have taken the stake money back. These are circumstances that are out of a bookmakers hands and not their obligation to do so. Did any other bookie do that? by that logic they should have withheld money placed on Finland I Don't know if any other bookie did it but they should have all done it as a good will gesture. Odds given and bets placed were on a game of football under normal circumstances. They have profited massively out of a near tradedgy. Denmark were heavy favourites and millions would have been placed on them
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 10:32:14 GMT
I see that but had Denmark and was a cash out option at the time. For the sake of a few pence I could have taken the stake money back. These are circumstances that are out of a bookmakers hands and not their obligation to do so. Did any other bookie do that? by that logic they should have withheld money placed on Finland I Don't know if any other bookie did it but they should have all done it as a good will gesture. Odds given and bets placed were on a game of football under normal circumstances If Denmark had not wanted to play then maybe or the game replayed say today as was an option to them would agree. It lost me my acca but accept it as it went ahead. Either way , thankfully it did go ahead and the outcome we all hoped for off the pitch
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Jun 13, 2021 10:34:36 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jun 13, 2021 10:34:36 GMT
I Don't know if any other bookie did it but they should have all done it as a good will gesture. Odds given and bets placed were on a game of football under normal circumstances If Denmark had not wanted to play then maybe or the game replayed say today as was an option to them would agree. It lost me my acca but accept it as it went ahead. Either way , thankfully it did go ahead and the outcome we all hoped for off the pitch Thankful the player didn't die but don't agree that betting on that game should stand. People bet on a game under normal circumstances, they've been fleeced by billionaires
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 10:39:17 GMT
If Denmark had not wanted to play then maybe or the game replayed say today as was an option to them would agree. It lost me my acca but accept it as it went ahead. Either way , thankfully it did go ahead and the outcome we all hoped for off the pitch Thankful the player didn't die but don't agree that betting on that game should stand. People bet on a game under normal circumstances, they've been fleeced by billionaires We'll agree to disagree i don't think anyone fleeced. It was the result , circumstances aside and Finland were backed also by some no doubt. I would love my bet back but don't feel fleeced in any way. Hopefully my mad gut feeling for N Macedonia will see me right today
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 14, 2021 11:50:42 GMT
The opening games of this tournament have been pretty entertaining - lots of good attacking football, including by us.
Let’s hope it continues.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 14, 2021 12:46:43 GMT
It's been enjoyable so far. Watched the Italy, England, Netherlands and Austria games so far.
3 were really entertaining and 1 got the win for England.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 14, 2021 13:45:19 GMT
Ive been generally impressed with the refereeing on the whole.
Not being sucked in too much by playacting and screaming players and pretty much trying to allow the game to flow.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:03:01 GMT
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Post by hardcastle on Jun 14, 2021 19:03:01 GMT
Talking today with a mate about England's record against the bigger teams over the past 50 years. If you take the top eight sides in the world to be Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland and Portugal (from Europe) plus Brazil and Argentina, how many times have England beaten one of the eight since 1970?
We could only recall Germany once, France once, Holland once and Argentina once. That's just four in 50 years unless we missed any?
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Jun 14, 2021 19:39:16 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 14, 2021 19:39:16 GMT
Talking today with a mate about England's record against the bigger teams over the past 50 years. If you take the top eight sides in the world to be Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland and Portugal (from Europe) plus Brazil and Argentina, how many times have England beaten one of the eight since 1970? We could only recall Germany once, France once, Holland once and Argentina once. That's just four in 50 years unless we missed any? Spain in the quarter finals of Euro 96? Aside from that, you’ve named them all. Pretty miserable record….
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Post by ratters on Jun 14, 2021 19:48:59 GMT
We beat spain in the nations league in 2018.
I think one issue is that its very rare we would draw one of them in a qualifying tournamnet, and then beyond that you are mainly looking at tournament games, so that means loosing to one of them once (or even someone else) and your out of the tournament. So friendlies aside how many times have we actually played those teams in a competitive game over that time?
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Jun 14, 2021 20:34:22 GMT
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Post by franklin on Jun 14, 2021 20:34:22 GMT
Oh dear it seems Arnies outburst after his goal contained some words he's had to apologise for and stated "I'm not a racist" stupid man.
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Jun 15, 2021 4:19:36 GMT
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Post by upthefud on Jun 15, 2021 4:19:36 GMT
I remember when I bet quite a bit on Celtic to qualify in the Europa league, they got pumped 3-0 but the other team were disqualified (I’ve forgotten why), was mildly peeved that I didn’t win my bet
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Jun 15, 2021 6:03:57 GMT
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Post by mowlee on Jun 15, 2021 6:03:57 GMT
Spain drawing last night another win for the Coates family.. bet they make afew million over this euro 2020.. every kind of upset the bookies clean up… Denmark an Spain would of fucked afew bets an accas up that’s for sure
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 15, 2021 6:28:23 GMT
Talking today with a mate about England's record against the bigger teams over the past 50 years. If you take the top eight sides in the world to be Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland and Portugal (from Europe) plus Brazil and Argentina, how many times have England beaten one of the eight since 1970? We could only recall Germany once, France once, Holland once and Argentina once. That's just four in 50 years unless we missed any? The depressing thing is all those wins came in the group stages. We invariably come a cropper in the knock out stages against the first half decent side we come up against. The exception that proves the rule is Spain in the quarter finals in 96, but, of course they weren’t then the side they become in later years.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jun 15, 2021 7:27:27 GMT
Talking today with a mate about England's record against the bigger teams over the past 50 years. If you take the top eight sides in the world to be Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland and Portugal (from Europe) plus Brazil and Argentina, how many times have England beaten one of the eight since 1970? We could only recall Germany once, France once, Holland once and Argentina once. That's just four in 50 years unless we missed any? The depressing thing is all those wins came in the group stages. We invariably come a cropper in the knock out stages against the first half decent side we come up against. The exception that proves the rule is Spain in the quarter finals in 96, but, of course they weren’t then the side they become in later years. That being said Greece won the thing, so have some faith even if it is for another week
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 15, 2021 7:51:30 GMT
The depressing thing is all those wins came in the group stages. We invariably come a cropper in the knock out stages against the first half decent side we come up against. The exception that proves the rule is Spain in the quarter finals in 96, but, of course they weren’t then the side they become in later years. That being said Greece won the thing, so have some faith even if it is for another week I gave up on England in 2010 after the Bloemfontein debacle. But, I have to say, the current crop of players is rekindling the fire to some degree.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 15, 2021 7:51:46 GMT
Working out what's going to happen, and who could potentially finish 2nd in the Germany/France/Portugal/Hungary group is impossible.
All the games are in Budapest or Munich, so got to be a chance of Germany winning against Portugal or France, and maybe Hungary pulling off an upset win in front of a full house against someone in their 3 home games in front of 70,000?
Maybe it won't be a French procession.
Suppose we'd maybe rather face Germany (assuming England win the group) - depending on how they look in the group games
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Jun 15, 2021 9:40:50 GMT
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Post by hardcastle on Jun 15, 2021 9:40:50 GMT
We beat spain in the nations league in 2018. I think one issue is that its very rare we would draw one of them in a qualifying tournamnet, and then beyond that you are mainly looking at tournament games, so that means loosing to one of them once (or even someone else) and your out of the tournament. So friendlies aside how many times have we actually played those teams in a competitive game over that time? You're right, the weakness in my observation is that l wasn't able to say how often we've actually played one of those 'top eight' countries over the past 50 years / 25 tournaments. (Spain, btw, l count as a draw, we won on pens, didn't we?)
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 15, 2021 9:47:03 GMT
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Jun 15, 2021 9:51:41 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2021 9:51:41 GMT
Bursik is better already.
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Jun 15, 2021 9:52:12 GMT
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Post by ParaPsych on Jun 15, 2021 9:52:12 GMT
Talking today with a mate about England's record against the bigger teams over the past 50 years. If you take the top eight sides in the world to be Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland and Portugal (from Europe) plus Brazil and Argentina, how many times have England beaten one of the eight since 1970? We could only recall Germany once, France once, Holland once and Argentina once. That's just four in 50 years unless we missed any? The depressing thing is all those wins came in the group stages. We invariably come a cropper in the knock out stages against the first half decent side we come up against. The exception that proves the rule is Spain in the quarter finals in 96, but, of course they weren’t then the side they become in later years. I say this every tournament, but we've only ever beaten one of the 8 mentioned teams in the knockout stages of a World Cup or Euros when the game was at Wembley. Wonder what would have happened if the '66 semi had been held at Goodison as originally planned?
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