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Zouma
May 14, 2021 16:52:59 GMT
Post by nott1 on May 14, 2021 16:52:59 GMT
He was a lot better than Wolly the sausage eater! Wrong. Don't be daft!
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Post by nott1 on May 14, 2021 16:54:23 GMT
He was a lot better than Wolly the sausage eater! yeah no he wasn’t, You were in Vicar Of Dibley!
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Zouma
May 14, 2021 18:56:33 GMT
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 14, 2021 18:56:33 GMT
If him and Choupo had applied themselves more to football and less to Instagram and African dances we’d maybe have stayed up. Self obsessed cocks the pair of them. I don't have instagram myself and I don't spend anytime there at all, but if it was like you wrote then one should ask why they seem more interested in playing now. Is it a question of money only? I bet they're on even higher wages now. He’d signed a new contract on over £100,000 a week before coming to us on loan. Money was certainly not an issue. It’s not major criticism of the player just that a player of his age who’d achieved fuck all should be hungrier and not fucking about thinking he’s a superstar.
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Post by kjpt140v on May 15, 2021 11:43:36 GMT
He was a let down. Came with a good reputation, but was all over the shop. I didn't rate him at all. How is it that these players have reached the dizzy heights yet some Stokies don't rate them. Is it possible that they were mismanaged during their time at Stoke? If so it could be a clue to why we eventually went down.
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Post by kjpt140v on May 15, 2021 12:14:39 GMT
He was a let down. Came with a good reputation, but was all over the shop. I didn't rate him at all. How is it that these players have reached the dizzy heights yet some Stokies don't rate them. Is it possible that they were mismanaged during their time at Stoke? If so it could be a clue to why we eventually went down.
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Zouma
May 15, 2021 13:57:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 13:57:45 GMT
He was a let down. Came with a good reputation, but was all over the shop. I didn't rate him at all. How is it that these players have reached the dizzy heights yet some Stokies don't rate them. Is it possible that they were mismanaged during their time at Stoke? If so it could be a clue to why we eventually went down. Of course they were mismanaged. At the same time, some players didn't apply themselves.
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Zouma
May 16, 2021 0:31:59 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2021 0:31:59 GMT
He was a let down. Came with a good reputation, but was all over the shop. I didn't rate him at all. How is it that these players have reached the dizzy heights yet some Stokies don't rate them. Is it possible that they were mismanaged during their time at Stoke? If so it could be a clue to why we eventually went down. No. He still looks fucking shit now.
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Zouma
May 16, 2021 10:52:12 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on May 16, 2021 10:52:12 GMT
How is it that these players have reached the dizzy heights yet some Stokies don't rate them. Is it possible that they were mismanaged during their time at Stoke? If so it could be a clue to why we eventually went down. No. He still looks fucking shit now. How often do you see him? We'd have him in a heartbeat
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Zouma
May 16, 2021 10:53:15 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on May 16, 2021 10:53:15 GMT
How is it that these players have reached the dizzy heights yet some Stokies don't rate them. Is it possible that they were mismanaged during their time at Stoke? If so it could be a clue to why we eventually went down. Of course they were mismanaged. At the same time, some players didn't apply themselves. That's probably because part of the mismanagement was discipline.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 16, 2021 10:59:35 GMT
Of course they were mismanaged. At the same time, some players didn't apply themselves. That's probably because part of the mismanagement was discipline. Players have some level of responsibility for themselves surely though? He looks a weak link for Chelsea every time he plays.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 16, 2021 11:28:07 GMT
That's probably because part of the mismanagement was discipline. Players have some level of responsibility for themselves surely though? He looks a weak link for Chelsea every time he plays. He’s a fine athlete but an awful footballer. People used to wax lyrical about his last ditch tackles but it was his lack of a footballing brain and inability to read the game that put him in the position to have to use his athleticism to make the last ditch tackle in the first place.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2021 12:10:38 GMT
No. He still looks fucking shit now. How often do you see him? We'd have him in a heartbeat I honestly wouldn’t want him in the side now.
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Post by kustokie on May 16, 2021 12:47:44 GMT
He was a lot better than Wolly the sausage eater! No he wasn't. Just to be clear, in your opinion Wollscheidt who no longer plays professional football is better than Zouma who plays for one of the best teams in Europe. With respect, you’re wrong, dead wrong. Wollscheidt was an awful player and he had an attitude to match. He was poison in the dressing room and a very negative influence. Zouma played well enough to be recalled by Chelsea and is now a regular.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 16, 2021 13:02:28 GMT
Just to be clear, in your opinion Wollscheidt who no longer plays professional football is better than Zouma who plays for one of the best teams in Europe. With respect, you’re wrong, dead wrong. Wollscheidt was an awful player and he had an attitude to match. He was poison in the dressing room and a very negative influence. Zouma played well enough to be recalled by Chelsea and is now a regular. Woolly was actually very popular in the dressing room and well liked around the club so I'm calling bullshit on this one im afraid.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 14:36:22 GMT
2 Prem titles and still playing for Chelsea. not bad for an apparently 'shit' player.
Wasn't outstanding for us but neither were those around him.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 16, 2021 18:15:24 GMT
Just to be clear, in your opinion Wollscheidt who no longer plays professional football is better than Zouma who plays for one of the best teams in Europe. With respect, you’re wrong, dead wrong. Wollscheidt was an awful player and he had an attitude to match. He was poison in the dressing room and a very negative influence. Zouma played well enough to be recalled by Chelsea and is now a regular. Woolly was actually very popular in the dressing room and well liked around the club so I'm calling bullshit on this one im afraid. Wolly had two major problems at Stoke. First, he wasn’t Huth and, Second, he wasn’t Huth. Bit simplistic but it was a major part of the problem. He was never as bad as he’s portrayed.
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Zouma
May 16, 2021 20:28:24 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2021 20:28:24 GMT
Woolly was actually very popular in the dressing room and well liked around the club so I'm calling bullshit on this one im afraid. Wolly had two major problems at Stoke. First, he wasn’t Huth and, Second, he wasn’t Huth. Bit simplistic but it was a major part of the problem. He was never as bad as he’s portrayed. I honestly couldn’t give a fuck who he wasn’t. He was just toss.
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Zouma
May 17, 2021 12:55:12 GMT
Post by damagedswan on May 17, 2021 12:55:12 GMT
Just to be clear, in your opinion Wollscheidt who no longer plays professional football is better than Zouma who plays for one of the best teams in Europe. With respect, you’re wrong, dead wrong. Wollscheidt was an awful player and he had an attitude to match. He was poison in the dressing room and a very negative influence. Zouma played well enough to be recalled by Chelsea and is now a regular. I didn't say anything about one player being better than another, I responded to the original comment saying that Zouma was better than Wollscheid was - the implication being that we are comparing their Stoke careers. Wollscheid wasn't particularly good overall and had major flaws but he played better for Stoke than Zouma did. It's irrelevant what happened to their careers afterwards.
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Zouma
May 17, 2021 19:01:39 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on May 17, 2021 19:01:39 GMT
How often do you see him? We'd have him in a heartbeat I honestly wouldn’t want him in the side now. Rubbish
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Zouma
May 17, 2021 19:02:37 GMT
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Post by kjpt140v on May 17, 2021 19:02:37 GMT
That's probably because part of the mismanagement was discipline. Players have some level of responsibility for themselves surely though? He looks a weak link for Chelsea every time he plays. That is Chelsea you are talking about not York City
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