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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 10, 2021 17:36:52 GMT
There's no chance Etebo will be playing for us again, is there? MON couldn't have been much clearer. He's made it a point of principle Probably more chance of Peter Sutcliffe lining up in our midfield than Peter Etebo, and that would be quite something! At least Sutcliffe would have been “committed”...😎
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 10, 2021 17:39:40 GMT
To be fair, whenever he was on the pitch he always appeared committed. I agree he clearly didn't want to be here but I never saw that on the pitch. I'd love to see him and Mikel in our midfield next season. Going on what I saw/remember his last few games for us he was poor. Great for squad morale bringing back a lad that doesn’t want to be here and will be gone the minute anything else comes along. Yeah I mean it’s far better to have shit players who want to stay their whole career. Get real 99% of them want to fuck off as soon as they get a better offer. As for his last few games I think your memory has been formed to fit your opinion. Like a jilted lover who says their partner wasn’t, all that in the sack. He’s no Messi on the ball but there was nothing wrong with his final performances he was one of our better players.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 10, 2021 17:44:43 GMT
There's no chance Etebo will be playing for us again, is there? MON couldn't have been much clearer. He's made it a point of principle Probably more chance of Peter Sutcliffe lining up in our midfield than Peter Etebo, and that would be quite something! Hate it when managers do that. It’s like playing Shotton right wing instead of Pennant because he’s been out on the lash.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 10, 2021 17:49:07 GMT
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Post by yyy on May 10, 2021 17:49:49 GMT
Going on what I saw/remember his last few games for us he was poor. Great for squad morale bringing back a lad that doesn’t want to be here and will be gone the minute anything else comes along. Yeah I mean it’s far better to have shit players who want to stay their whole career. Get real 99% of them want to fuck off as soon as they get a better offer. As for his last few games I think your memory has been formed to fit your opinion. Like a jilted lover who says their partner wasn’t, all that in the sack. He’s no Messi on the ball but there was nothing wrong with his final performances he was one of our better players. He's not all that anyway, infact he's pretty crap with no end product. He's had a statisticaly good euros and done nothing since, so has Joe Allen. He's let us struggle for a couple of seasons well we pay him handsomely
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Post by dirtclod on May 10, 2021 17:53:28 GMT
That tweet sounds like a message from his agent - "Hey Stoke, he's not going away...so fork over the $$$".
He can't just come galloping back here in a "triumphant return" - we can't swing his wages. Gone as soon as his agent finds him some money somewhere else - he's not running a charity. I also don't recall him being much of a factor in his last few games for us.
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Post by ab61 on May 10, 2021 17:55:36 GMT
Fuck him off ASAP. Right off
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 10, 2021 18:00:15 GMT
Yeah I mean it’s far better to have shit players who want to stay their whole career. Get real 99% of them want to fuck off as soon as they get a better offer. As for his last few games I think your memory has been formed to fit your opinion. Like a jilted lover who says their partner wasn’t, all that in the sack. He’s no Messi on the ball but there was nothing wrong with his final performances he was one of our better players. He's not all that anyway, infact he's pretty crap with no end product. He's had a statisticaly good euros and done nothing since, so has Joe Allen. He's let us struggle for a couple of seasons well we pay him handsomely I agree to some extent, he’s nowhere near as good on the ball as he thinks he is however he has something our midfield lacks in spades, physical presence. I’d want him playing a more disciplined role than expecting him to provide goals and assists. Think he’d make a better DM than Badou who’s temperament frightened the life out of me. Yet some of you will say he lacked commitment on the pitch too because he fucked about for 45 mins vs Leeds.
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Post by canadianmoose on May 10, 2021 18:06:54 GMT
Hes made it clear he doesn't want to be at Stoke and doesn't want to play in the championship. Its not like hes some wayward soul that's lost his way. He has made it abundantly clear that hes not interested. Doesn't matter about MON's managerial talents or style or anything else at this point. I really don't know why its so hard for the reality of this to sink in with some folk.
Why would MON even want somebody with that attitude around the place?
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Post by numpty40 on May 10, 2021 19:09:30 GMT
To be fair, whenever he was on the pitch he always appeared committed. I agree he clearly didn't want to be here but I never saw that on the pitch. I'd love to see him and Mikel in our midfield next season. Going on what I saw/remember his last few games for us he was poor. Great for squad morale bringing back a lad that doesn’t want to be here and will be gone the minute anything else comes along. It's finding that balance though, we seem to have recently signed a few professionals with 'good attitude' but are pretty useless footballers. Etebo doesn't want to be at Stoke but has he been disruptive? He is a different class footballer to the likes of Thompson, Cousins and Tymon and if he is willing to come back to the club and play for a move it can only be to our advantage as opposed to paying his wage while he plays for someone else.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 10, 2021 19:12:06 GMT
Going on what I saw/remember his last few games for us he was poor. Great for squad morale bringing back a lad that doesn’t want to be here and will be gone the minute anything else comes along. It's finding that balance though, we seem to have recently signed a few professionals with 'good attitude' but are pretty useless footballers. Etebo doesn't want to be at Stoke but has he been disruptive? He is a different class footballer to the likes of Thompson, Cousins and Tymon and if he is willing to come back to the club and play for a move it can only be to our advantage as opposed to paying his wage while he plays for someone else. Is he though, is he really that good? I’m not convinced. And to be honest a player that doesn’t want to play for you, is a terrible player. End of.
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Post by numpty40 on May 10, 2021 19:15:06 GMT
It's finding that balance though, we seem to have recently signed a few professionals with 'good attitude' but are pretty useless footballers. Etebo doesn't want to be at Stoke but has he been disruptive? He is a different class footballer to the likes of Thompson, Cousins and Tymon and if he is willing to come back to the club and play for a move it can only be to our advantage as opposed to paying his wage while he plays for someone else. Is he though, is he really that good? I’m not convinced. And to be honest a player that doesn’t want to play for you, is a terrible player. End of. I've seen the three players mentioned and I've seen Etebo, Etebo is a far better footballer and I'm surprised anyone would think otherwise.
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Post by potter1989 on May 10, 2021 19:21:03 GMT
Etebo is by far the better player but Etebo doesn’t want to play for stoke, Thompson does, end of subject!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 10, 2021 19:23:26 GMT
This Danny Cooke lad who Pete Smith is calling out for chatting shit. Is he he same Danny Cooke that Bayern was lauding as the font of all knowledge (on the Development Squad thread) when it came to inside info at the club regarding the Development Squads being ordered by MON to play hoofball? I think we should be told.
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Post by numpty40 on May 10, 2021 19:26:51 GMT
Etebo is by far the better player but Etebo doesn’t want to play for stoke, Thompson does, end of subject! I want to play for Stoke......
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Post by crapslinger on May 10, 2021 19:34:29 GMT
It's finding that balance though, we seem to have recently signed a few professionals with 'good attitude' but are pretty useless footballers. Etebo doesn't want to be at Stoke but has he been disruptive? He is a different class footballer to the likes of Thompson, Cousins and Tymon and if he is willing to come back to the club and play for a move it can only be to our advantage as opposed to paying his wage while he plays for someone else. Is he though, is he really that good? I’m not convinced. And to be honest a player that doesn’t want to play for you, is a terrible player. End of. Most of our squad look as if they don't want to play for us , the dirty dozen will be back soon stinking the place out, what a fucking shambles.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 19:37:21 GMT
There's no chance Etebo will be playing for us again, is there? MON couldn't have been much clearer. He's made it a point of principle Probably more chance of Peter Sutcliffe lining up in our midfield than Peter Etebo, and that would be quite something! Hate it when managers do that. It’s like playing Shotton right wing instead of Pennant because he’s been out on the lash. One of many reasons why you would make a shit football manager
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 11, 2021 6:57:01 GMT
Hate it when managers do that. It’s like playing Shotton right wing instead of Pennant because he’s been out on the lash. One of many reasons why you would make a shit football manager Yeah because they’re such special people ffs just about sums up the club’s incompetent approach. That’s why it’s called management, you manage the resources you have to provide the best outcomes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 11, 2021 7:04:03 GMT
Thought Pulis was right to sideline Pennant tbh. You have to have rules in any group and consequences for those who don't follow them.
His real folly and mismanagement of resources was spunking his summer budget on a striker we didn't really need instead of at least one winger we desperately did.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 11, 2021 7:19:40 GMT
Etebo signed for us as a Championship side, that's what I find the most confusing thing. If he didn't want to play in this league then why sign in the first place?
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Post by neddy on May 11, 2021 7:22:11 GMT
Etebo signed for us as a Championship side, that's what I find the most confusing thing. If he didn't want to play in this league then why sign in the first place? £40k per week maybe?
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 11, 2021 7:31:30 GMT
Etebo signed for us as a Championship side, that's what I find the most confusing thing. If he didn't want to play in this league then why sign in the first place? £40k per week maybe? Well yeah, money is normally the reason. The timing was weird too, just before he played in a World Cup? most players leave it until after.
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Post by raythesailor on May 11, 2021 7:36:10 GMT
If he says he does not want to play for us is that not a breach of contract, and if so why continue paying him ?
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Post by neddy on May 11, 2021 7:39:21 GMT
Well yeah, money is normally the reason. The timing was weird too, just before he played in a World Cup? most players leave it until after. The only other thought he was sold a really good line about we’d be back in one season!?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 11, 2021 7:56:47 GMT
Etebo signed for us as a Championship side, that's what I find the most confusing thing. If he didn't want to play in this league then why sign in the first place? I think he thought we were going to walk it and he'd be a Prem player in a year.
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Post by crouchbot on May 11, 2021 8:09:05 GMT
This Danny Cooke lad who Pete Smith is calling out for chatting shit. Is he he same Danny Cooke that Bayern was lauding as the font of all knowledge (on the Development Squad thread) when it came to inside info at the club regarding the Development Squads being ordered by MON to play hoofball? I think we should be told. Funny conclusion to come to, he’s literally asking Pete if he can confirm the story, where you got Pete calling him out for chatting shit I have no idea.
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Post by LGH87 on May 11, 2021 8:10:53 GMT
Despite what Pete says, I wouldn't underestimate the power of Mikel in all this just yet. (For the record I don't believe Etebo will play a competitive game for us again.)
We all know how much MON loves Mikel, Etebo has a close relationship with him too. Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that Mikel has firstly convinced Etebo to give it another go in the red & white and then sat down with MON and convinced him of Etebo's quality and commitment to the cause?
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 11, 2021 8:14:31 GMT
Thought Pulis was right to sideline Pennant tbh. You have to have rules in any group and consequences for those who don't follow them. His real folly and mismanagement of resources was spunking his summer budget on a striker we didn't really need instead of at least one winger we desperately did. Rules and proportionate consequences. Break the rules and it affects your performance is a more serious offence than breaking a rule and being able to carry out your duties. He got it wrong because he didn’t wait and see if his lifestyle adversely affected his performances. When he started cutting off his nose to spite his face Pennant was still one of our top performers so fines etc would have sufficed. I’m not saying his lifestyle wouldn’t have caught up with him, just it hadn’t at the time. Marginalising him IMO only hastened the demise of what was one of our most effective players. They’re only managers not sure why they feel the need to behave like cult leaders.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 11, 2021 9:21:14 GMT
Thought Pulis was right to sideline Pennant tbh. You have to have rules in any group and consequences for those who don't follow them. His real folly and mismanagement of resources was spunking his summer budget on a striker we didn't really need instead of at least one winger we desperately did. Rules and proportionate consequences. Break the rules and it affects your performance is a more serious offence than breaking a rule and being able to carry out your duties. He got it wrong because he didn’t wait and see if his lifestyle adversely affected his performances. When he started cutting off his nose to spite his face Pennant was still one of our top performers so fines etc would have sufficed. I’m not saying his lifestyle wouldn’t have caught up with him, just it hadn’t at the time. Marginalising him IMO only hastened the demise of what was one of our most effective players. They’re only managers not sure why they feel the need to behave like cult leaders. It's not just him though is it, it's about the group - if one is allowed to get away with it it sends the message others can try their luck. Pennant only has himself to blame for the path his career that took, sadly. But Pulis made his own bed with a starry-eyed transfer window that didn't address what we actually needed.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 11, 2021 9:58:47 GMT
This Danny Cooke lad who Pete Smith is calling out for chatting shit. Is he he same Danny Cooke that Bayern was lauding as the font of all knowledge (on the Development Squad thread) when it came to inside info at the club regarding the Development Squads being ordered by MON to play hoofball? I think we should be told. Funny conclusion to come to, he’s literally asking Pete if he can confirm the story, where you got Pete calling him out for chatting shit I have no idea. Perhaps it was the bit where he said "We'd be nuts not to want him round..." what with his abundance of talent and all that. And then in Pete's response the word 'baloney' was a big give away. Just call me a bluff old traditionalist but it seemed to me like a bit of a put down.
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