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Post by Cns on May 17, 2021 8:45:02 GMT
Our hands are tied, regardless of how minted our owners are. Sheff utd & wba have the parachute payments contributing to their ffp.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 17, 2021 8:50:35 GMT
If it's anything over a million we definitely can't afford anyone can we?
Unless our FFP situation isn't as bad as made out.
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Post by theonlooker on May 17, 2021 9:42:39 GMT
If it's anything over a million we definitely can't afford anyone can we? Unless our FFP situation isn't as bad as made out. It will be interesting to see how much it shifts when we sell Collins and Souttar.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 17, 2021 9:50:44 GMT
If it's anything over a million we definitely can't afford anyone can we? Unless our FFP situation isn't as bad as made out. It will be interesting to see how much it shifts when we sell Collins and Souttar. Can't see both leaving. PL clubs would be mad to go for Souttar. I know the stats crowd love him but he's not ready yet and imo it's pretty obvious if you've watched him regularly. He could be in 12 months though.
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Post by LGH87 on May 17, 2021 9:53:39 GMT
I've never been more convinced of a Striker flopping than I am this lad. Well I say flop he may be good for 8-12 goals in this league which at the £7-8m it's going to cost, would be seen as a flop.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 17, 2021 9:53:55 GMT
It will be interesting to see how much it shifts when we sell Collins and Souttar. Can't see both leaving. PL clubs would be mad to go for Souttar. I know the stats crowd love him but he's not ready yet and imo it's pretty obvious if you've watched him regularly. He could be in 12 months though. None of the two are ready, but they are bloody good prospects I'd say!
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Post by ash on May 17, 2021 9:57:41 GMT
We can but hope/dream Thank you Mark Hughes and gary Rowett Before anyone says scholes The managers wanted the sit we have and he just went out and got them And yes I know scholes got the managers too 😱 I always find it strange how most people seem to lay all of our transfer problems at Scholes's door.
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Post by Cns on May 17, 2021 10:04:14 GMT
It will be interesting to see how much it shifts when we sell Collins and Souttar. Can't see both leaving. PL clubs would be mad to go for Souttar. I know the stats crowd love him but he's not ready yet and imo it's pretty obvious if you've watched him regularly. He could be in 12 months though. I don't understand the hype, I think he's good,lots of mistakes in his game with plenty of room for improvement, very much overrated currently by what seems a majority of fans.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 17, 2021 10:07:03 GMT
We can but hope/dream Thank you Mark Hughes and gary Rowett Before anyone says scholes The managers wanted the sit we have and he just went out and got them And yes I know scholes got the managers too 😱 I always find it strange how most people seem to lay all of our transfer problems at Scholes's door. Scholes was instrumental in the recruitment strategy/policy that played a very significant part in our demise and relegation with the employment of a so called “expert and experienced”…….Mark Cartwright in 2012. Whether or not (in hindsight) there “has been” a complete overall of the recruitment strategy/policy (even with the expert and experienced Mark Cartwright leaving the club) it’s an unknown to us the supporters. It’s supporter conjecture who is fully responsible for the continued failures under Rowett and Jones
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 17, 2021 10:15:19 GMT
Can't see both leaving. PL clubs would be mad to go for Souttar. I know the stats crowd love him but he's not ready yet and imo it's pretty obvious if you've watched him regularly. He could be in 12 months though. None of the two are ready, but they are bloody good prospects I'd say! Collins is a lot more ready with the tools he has and that's even with the 2/3 year age difference too.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 17, 2021 10:16:59 GMT
Can't see both leaving. PL clubs would be mad to go for Souttar. I know the stats crowd love him but he's not ready yet and imo it's pretty obvious if you've watched him regularly. He could be in 12 months though. I don't understand the hype, I think he's good,lots of mistakes in his game with plenty of room for improvement, very much overrated currently by what seems a majority of fans. I don't think there's a lot of mistakes tbh and he's been one of the better CB's in the division this year. But his weaknesses are ones that in the PL will expose you massively. And that's where I think he needs to carry on learning at this level.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 17, 2021 10:33:34 GMT
None of the two are ready, but they are bloody good prospects I'd say! Collins is a lot more ready with the tools he has and that's even with the 2/3 year age difference too. I really think that is very debateable due to experince, but as said many times before everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Post by J-Roar on May 17, 2021 10:34:24 GMT
I've never been more convinced of a Striker flopping than I am this lad. Well I say flop he may be good for 8-12 goals in this league which at the £7-8m it's going to cost, would be seen as a flop. Can't see that coming back to bite you 😀
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 17, 2021 10:57:44 GMT
Collins is a lot more ready with the tools he has and that's even with the 2/3 year age difference too. I really think that is very debateable due to experince, but as said many times before everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The experience counts for something for sure but Collins is just a better class of player and has a lot more potential and if he was played regularly at CB would have shown he was a better player now too.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 17, 2021 11:19:48 GMT
I really think that is very debateable due to experince, but as said many times before everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The experience counts for something for sure but Collins is just a better class of player and has a lot more potential and if he was played regularly at CB would have shown he was a better player now too. We don't know that, do we? Opinions aren't the same as fact you know!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 12:26:41 GMT
We can but hope/dream Thank you Mark Hughes and gary Rowett Before anyone says scholes The managers wanted the sit we have and he just went out and got them And yes I know scholes got the managers too 😱 I always find it strange how most people seem to lay all of our transfer problems at Scholes's door. Easy to blame him when we don't have the full facts or know the workings of the club etc. not defending or blaming him as simply don't know what the procedure was on bringing certain players in, neither does anyone else
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Post by mcw on May 17, 2021 12:56:57 GMT
I've never been more convinced of a Striker flopping than I am this lad. Well I say flop he may be good for 8-12 goals in this league which at the £7-8m it's going to cost, would be seen as a flop. Can't see that coming back to bite you 😀 Let's put it this way, with our success with strikers nothing would be more certain than him rocking up here for £7-8M and turning out to be a total dud. If he goes somewhere else in the champ then it may be 50/50:)!
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Post by hardcastle on May 17, 2021 13:11:05 GMT
[/quote] The experience counts for something for sure but Collins is just a better class of player and has a lot more potential and if he was played regularly at CB would have shown he was a better player now too.
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I was convinced when Russell Osman and Terry Butcher we're coming through at Ipswich that, of the two, Osman would turn out to be the England regular. Didn't turn out that way, although Osman looked the real deal, Colin Todd-like, and Butcher the orthodox big 'stopper', it was Butcher who excelled and Osman kind of plateaued. Reminds me a lot of Souttar and Collins.
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by marylandstoke on May 17, 2021 13:29:41 GMT
I can't see it happening but I'll do a sex wee if we managed to sign a 33 goal season striker. Eff me ragged Voidy. When did we last have a 33 goal a season striker? And your ignoring the fact that we are in The Boslem Triangle where strikers careers go ‘never to be heard of, never to be seen’, again. Bonus marks if you can name the song!
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Post by nott1 on May 17, 2021 14:59:46 GMT
If it's anything over a million we definitely can't afford anyone can we? Unless our FFP situation isn't as bad as made out. When we sell all the talent on the books we don't want like Ince, Vokes,Wimmer,Afobe etc. we'll have a massive sum to spend on a good stiker eh?
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Post by thevoid on May 17, 2021 18:15:10 GMT
I can't see it happening but I'll do a sex wee if we managed to sign a 33 goal season striker. Eff me ragged Voidy. When did we last have a 33 goal a season striker? And your ignoring the fact that we are in The Boslem Triangle where strikers careers go ‘never to be heard of, never to be seen’, again. Bonus marks if you can name the song! Not a Scooby. Barry Manilow?
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Post by marylandstoke on May 17, 2021 20:04:04 GMT
Eff me ragged Voidy. When did we last have a 33 goal a season striker? And your ignoring the fact that we are in The Boslem Triangle where strikers careers go ‘never to be heard of, never to be seen’, again. Bonus marks if you can name the song! Not a Scooby. Barry Manilow? I don’t remember Barry getting 33 goals in a season. Love his jingles though.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 17, 2021 20:28:12 GMT
I think he would struggle here, he'd get Rotherham type figures here. 9 in 57 or something.
I don't think our new forward has to be a Goal getter as such. Just a good footballer with a better conversion rate than idk Gregory. A fit Stephen Fletcher. Whatever.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 17, 2021 20:31:37 GMT
The experience counts for something for sure but Collins is just a better class of player and has a lot more potential and if he was played regularly at CB would have shown he was a better player now too. [/quote] I was convinced when Russell Osman and Terry Butcher we're coming through at Ipswich that, of the two, Osman would turn out to be the England regular. Didn't turn out that way, although Osman looked the real deal, Colin Todd-like, and Butcher the orthodox big 'stopper', it was Butcher who excelled and Osman kind of plateaued. Reminds me a lot of Souttar and Collins. I guess we'll have to wait and see.[/quote] Tbh though when I've seen Collins at CB he looks better. I think Souttar will be a premier league CB but I think Collins could be top level. He's a stopper AND good on the ball. We're very lucky in that department
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 17, 2021 20:34:02 GMT
Anyway, if Rangers are after him the fee won't be too big.
They're still skint. Gerrard will leave this summer. He's come first in a two horse race so that gets him the Liverpool job now, either this summer or the summer after
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Post by a on May 17, 2021 21:25:39 GMT
Anyway, if Rangers are after him the fee won't be too big. They're still skint. Gerrard will leave this summer. He's come first in a two horse race so that gets him the Liverpool job now, either this summer or the summer after And sacked the season after
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 16, 2021 12:40:25 GMT
FA misconduct charge for something he posted on social media…. 8yrs ago.
Why is it being dragged up now? Ridiculous.
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Post by s7oke on Aug 16, 2021 12:42:52 GMT
FA misconduct charge for something he posted on social media…. 8yrs ago. Why is it being dragged up now? Ridiculous. Derby might have found our reported him so he will get sacked And then they can sign him.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 16, 2021 19:03:05 GMT
Watched him play against Derby, but wasn't too impressed really. £8M? Don't think we should pay remotely close to that amount!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2021 19:18:04 GMT
He's bang average, so glad we weren't in for him.
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