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Post by cobhamstokey on May 2, 2021 15:57:23 GMT
Proactive? Young boy hanging on top of the net laughing his head of with his mates taking selfies? 🤣 That isn't fans frustration of the owners. Ask him what the super league is, he probably doesn't even know what it is. The Chelsea fans were great. Sat down in the street outside and protested in a large group. Liverpool fans had flares outside. These today thought lets show who's has the biggest following and try act hard on the tele. They are now trying to kick off with the police outside and throw things at them. Souness said it, and even neville has just said it. This won't make a scrap of difference to the glazers sitting thousands of miles away eating their meal, probably not even knowing they are playing today. It will take something more productive, like no bugger turning up for games, and new legislation hitting them where it hurts, not kids on top of the net 😁 They haven't hurt anybody, have they? Are they supposed to act solemn or what! You are making an awful lot of assumptions about these people. Different people have different ways of expressing what they want to express. The fact is this story was already under the carpet, anything that keeps it alive is good imo. What did these owners expect? This will be a huge embarrassment for the club in a way that those outside protests wont, if only because all those global TV companies who pay millions for the rights are having to show this, instead of the match and having to make changes to their schedules. I don't care if they are all in their nappies tbh. The pressure and the profile needs to be maintained. It's on the front page of all major news outlets, the outside protests would not have achieved that. If they hurt people that is a different matter, but all news media have so far reported that the ground protests were peaceful. I do have respect for those genuine supporters taking a stand as this shouldn’t be forgotten. Interesting that the 2 clubs fans whove benefited most from their current owners aren’t making much fuss. Scared that they may go back to being the clubs that they were pre takeover. 1 in the Championship and the other a mid table PL club.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 2, 2021 15:57:31 GMT
The Glazers bought that club on debt and have taken over a billion pounds out of it and put it into their own pockets.
People need to do their research.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 2, 2021 15:58:50 GMT
They haven't hurt anybody, have they? Are they supposed to act solemn or what! You are making an awful lot of assumptions about these people. Different people have different ways of expressing what they want to express. The fact is this story was already under the carpet, anything that keeps it alive is good imo. What did these owners expect? This will be a huge embarrassment for the club in a way that those outside protests wont, if only because all those global TV companies who pay millions for the rights are having to show this, instead of the match and having to make changes to their schedules. I don't care if they are all in their nappies tbh. The pressure and the profile needs to be maintained. It's on the front page of all major news outlets, the outside protests would not have achieved that. If they hurt people that is a different matter, but all news media have so far reported that the ground protests were peaceful. But if like you say, you want all the media to keep on it, and go global, then they should be trying to show a hatred for what's happening,by having banners, chanting, looking titsed off. The only images going global and in the papers tomorrow are the chavs laughing their bags off at how naughty they are being. That's the point I'm making. You're right about it being embarrassing! A protest outside the stadium without any disruption would hardly even make the news. Just because you've passed them all of as chavs that aren't proper fans doesn't mean that's the case, as always with any mass gatherings you will get people there for the wrong reasons but that's no different to every protest on the planet.......
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Post by kustokie on May 2, 2021 15:59:09 GMT
Don't think this game would go ahead, wouldn't gmp have to do a security search of the whole stadium? The fact the players are "Still in hotel rooms" proves everything whats wrong with the game today. Why the fuck do Liverpool need a hotel when its less than a hour down the road? I used to work in the kitchen at the Old Post House Hotel (now a Hilton) in Clayton. All the away teams arrived that morning, had their lunch in the hotel, had the pre-match team talk and then rested prior to the match.
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Post by sportsman on May 2, 2021 15:59:26 GMT
The Glazers bought that club on debt and have taken over a billion pounds out of it and put it into their own pockets. People need to do their research. Don't think anyone has disagreed with that?
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Post by sportsman on May 2, 2021 16:01:01 GMT
But if like you say, you want all the media to keep on it, and go global, then they should be trying to show a hatred for what's happening,by having banners, chanting, looking titsed off. The only images going global and in the papers tomorrow are the chavs laughing their bags off at how naughty they are being. That's the point I'm making. You're right about it being embarrassing! A protest outside the stadium without any disruption would hardly even make the news. Just because you've passed them all of as chavs that aren't proper fans doesn't mean that's the case, as always with any mass gatherings you will get people there for the wrong reasons but that's no different to every protest on the planet....... Well that peaceful sit down protest by thousands outside Chelsea happened to stop the super league happening on its own, with their owner stopping it within the hour 😁
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2021 16:01:59 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 2, 2021 16:03:21 GMT
Obviously it's the few hundred that actually come from Manchester!!!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 2, 2021 16:03:59 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 2, 2021 16:06:10 GMT
The Glazers bought that club on debt and have taken over a billion pounds out of it and put it into their own pockets. People need to do their research. Don't think anyone has disagreed with that? I think Souness did. £719m net spend since Ferguson left was his suggestion and that ultimately they’re business people so people shouldn’t be surprised that they’re making money as well. But he did add the club was an institution which it is. I have no issues with the fans protesting.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 2, 2021 16:06:43 GMT
A protest outside the stadium without any disruption would hardly even make the news. Just because you've passed them all of as chavs that aren't proper fans doesn't mean that's the case, as always with any mass gatherings you will get people there for the wrong reasons but that's no different to every protest on the planet....... Well that peaceful sit down protest by thousands outside Chelsea happened to stop the super league happening on its own, with their owner stopping it within the hour 😁 Nothing to do with the obvious outrage the 24 hours after the announcement that made all the teams realise how bad they had misjudged it at all then......
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Post by spitthedog on May 2, 2021 16:08:07 GMT
They haven't hurt anybody, have they? Are they supposed to act solemn or what! You are making an awful lot of assumptions about these people. Different people have different ways of expressing what they want to express. The fact is this story was already under the carpet, anything that keeps it alive is good imo. What did these owners expect? This will be a huge embarrassment for the club in a way that those outside protests wont, if only because all those global TV companies who pay millions for the rights are having to show this, instead of the match and having to make changes to their schedules. I don't care if they are all in their nappies tbh. The pressure and the profile needs to be maintained. It's on the front page of all major news outlets, the outside protests would not have achieved that. If they hurt people that is a different matter, but all news media have so far reported that the ground protests were peaceful. I do have respect for those genuine supporters taking a stand as this shouldn’t be forgotten. Interesting that the 2 clubs fans whove benefited most from their current owners aren’t making much fuss. Scared that they may go back to being the clubs that they were pre takeover. 1 in the Championship and the other a mid table PL club. What these owners did was totally out of order, they crossed a massive line, so they should expect emotions get stirred and people get carried away when they do. It's to be expected and not looked down on. But things have to change and I'm not surprised about these frustrations when these owners in the last week have come out, despite all this, and said categorically ....Nothing is going to change!!!...in other words...Fuck You....which is basically what they are saying to football supporters.
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Post by TinkerT on May 2, 2021 16:10:33 GMT
Don't think this game would go ahead, wouldn't gmp have to do a security search of the whole stadium? The fact the players are "Still in hotel rooms" proves everything whats wrong with the game today. Why the fuck do Liverpool need a hotel when its less than a hour down the road? I used to work in the kitchen at the Old Post House Hotel (now a Hilton) in Clayton. All the away teams arrived that morning, had their lunch in the hotel, had the pre-match team talk and then rested prior to the match. All teams even in the championship now stay in hotels even the home teams. Far too much money involved.
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Post by sportsman on May 2, 2021 16:11:49 GMT
Well that peaceful sit down protest by thousands outside Chelsea happened to stop the super league happening on its own, with their owner stopping it within the hour 😁 Nothing to do with the obvious outrage the 24 hours after the announcement that made all the teams realise how bad they had misjudged it at all then...... But it was that peaceful protest by Chelsea fans outside the ground that got Chelsea to issue a statement pulling out within the hour.
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Post by Cns on May 2, 2021 16:12:40 GMT
Like souttar yesterday that
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Post by kustokie on May 2, 2021 16:12:59 GMT
I used to work in the kitchen at the Old Post House Hotel (now a Hilton) in Clayton. All the away teams arrived that morning, had their lunch in the hotel, had the pre-match team talk and then rested prior to the match. All teams even in the championship now stay in hotels even the home teams. Far too much money involved. Not like the old days, when the players used to travel to the match on the bus with the fans.
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Post by toppercorner on May 2, 2021 16:15:39 GMT
second video are they the famous mib i just can't get scared by any firm (or anyone really) wearing what looks like pyjamas. They look anything but dangerous, they simply look like they hang around outside a JD sports. Todays 'hooligan' uniform is such a sad sight. Standards have slipped.
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Post by felonious on May 2, 2021 16:17:25 GMT
I have little time for the Glaziers and their type of owners running football, but these bunch of chavs are no different to the dicks involved in recent disorder in Bristol and London where they couldn’t hold a reasonable debate over just what they were protesting for. I mean, who takes cans of lager to a protest, it’s just an excuse to be a cock. They were protesting about the Glazers big time in May 2010 when they beat us 5:0 on the last day of the season but Chelsea hammered Wigan to narrowly pip them to the title. Their scum fans threatened my lad and his mate, two eleven year olds. I had to drag them back to the ground out of the way so I'm not holding my breath that this lot is any better. The only ground in the entire Premier League or Championship that the kids had a problem.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 2, 2021 16:17:49 GMT
second video are they the famous mib i just can't get scared by any firm (or anyone really) wearing what looks like pyjamas. They look anything but dangerous, they simply look like they hang around outside a JD sports. Todays 'hooligan' uniform is such a sad sight. Standards have slipped. Nice one Wayne Hemmingway.......
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Post by spitthedog on May 2, 2021 16:18:59 GMT
Nothing to do with the obvious outrage the 24 hours after the announcement that made all the teams realise how bad they had misjudged it at all then...... But it was that peaceful protest by Chelsea fans outside the ground that got Chelsea to issue a statement pulling out within the hour. That was because if they didn't they knew it would get nasty. But things have moved on since then. These owners (Man Utd and Arsenal) have basically come out in the last few days with a huge FUCK YOU to these supporters, saying unequivocally that nothing is going to change and they are going nowhere. So what did they expect?
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 2, 2021 16:25:29 GMT
But it was that peaceful protest by Chelsea fans outside the ground that got Chelsea to issue a statement pulling out within the hour. That was because if they didn't they knew it would get nasty. But things have moved on since then. These owners (Man Utd and Arsenal) have basically come out in the last few days with a huge FUCK YOU to these supporters, saying unequivocally that nothing is going to change and they are going nowhere. So what did they expect? Suck it up like the faceless cash cow they want you to be. Getting fucked over by the government? Go and hold a placard quietly and know your place. Work for a company that's trying to fire and rehire you on less favourable terms? Don't join a union just get on with it, and if you don't like it get another job. The modern world we live in......
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Post by kustokie on May 2, 2021 16:27:32 GMT
Most of the money in the game at the top comes from tv, memorabilia and advertising, not gates receipts. However, fans in the stadium are essential because they create the sound and the atmosphere. So the fans in the stadium are being played for fools because they pay a lot of money to be part of the show. The owners are playing a dangerous game by using the American of sport, which is very different. I have been here 40 years and been to many sporting events and the atmosphere is always very tame and rarely reaches the intensity of even a championship match. Attending a live sporting event is more like going to a concert or a play - it’s a total day out. Food, drink and socializing are all part of the experience. The game is a spectacle geared mainly for the TV audience. That’s why there are so many breaks in play to cater to tv commercials. The biggest event at the Super Bowl is often the half time show and the game is almost incidental. The 30 second commercials can cost as much as a $1 million. I am not in any way defending it because football will not be same if it goes in this direction.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 2, 2021 16:31:10 GMT
Match postponed. Now that's how to get your message across.......
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Post by 1982stokie on May 2, 2021 16:34:57 GMT
The Glazers bought that club on debt and have taken over a billion pounds out of it and put it into their own pockets. People need to do their research. If the Glazzers are doing damage to Man U then I hope they stay along time
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Post by theonlooker on May 2, 2021 16:37:15 GMT
Game postponed. Well done to all. It's the only way of getting a message across.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 2, 2021 16:37:28 GMT
Wank. Was looking forward to some footy with a trip to the pub cancelled🤨
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Post by werrington on May 2, 2021 16:38:07 GMT
Match postponed....heroes the vast majority of them and they should be applauded
The ones who caused violence and wanton damage are not part of what the rest are trying to achieve
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Post by dexta on May 2, 2021 16:40:11 GMT
Jesus mary n Joseph and the wee donkey game off can we move on now
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Post by dexta on May 2, 2021 16:41:32 GMT
Jesus mary n Joseph and the wee donkey game off can we move on now
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Post by theonlooker on May 2, 2021 16:42:02 GMT
Match postponed....heroes every single one of them they should be applauded I don't think this is the last we've seen of these types of protests.
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