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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 3, 2021 11:13:59 GMT
11 players that the manager at the time wanted brought in on deals that the club could afford. That the players turned out to be shit and subsequently unsaleable isn't Tony Scholes fault. Your rested case has just been thrown out of court and the judge has struck you off for wasting his time. I see Tony ! Etebo, Bauer contract extension, due diligence, watched 25 times, long contracts on high salary's, 87m loss crippled by FFP but our CEO has no part to play in this clusterfuck I'm not sure where I've said he's played no part. In fact ive offered no personal opinion on the matter. Etebo didn't sign a contract extension. He was a new signing.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 3, 2021 11:28:27 GMT
11 players that the manager at the time wanted brought in on deals that the club could afford. That the players turned out to be shit and subsequently unsaleable isn't Tony Scholes fault. Your rested case has just been thrown out of court and the judge has struck you off for wasting his time. I see Tony ! Etebo, Bauer contract extension, due diligence, watched 25 times, long contracts on high salary's, 87m loss crippled by FFP but our CEO has no part to play in this clusterfuck Any proof that Scholes made the decision that Bauer should get a contract extension?
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Post by lordb on Apr 3, 2021 11:30:37 GMT
I see Tony ! Etebo, Bauer contract extension, due diligence, watched 25 times, long contracts on high salary's, 87m loss crippled by FFP but our CEO has no part to play in this clusterfuck Any proof that Scholes made the decision that Bauer should get a contract extension? We didn't have a manager at the time so it must have been his call.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 3, 2021 13:18:11 GMT
I see Tony ! Etebo, Bauer contract extension, due diligence, watched 25 times, long contracts on high salary's, 87m loss crippled by FFP but our CEO has no part to play in this clusterfuck I'm not sure where I've said he's played no part. In fact ive offered no personal opinion on the matter. Etebo didn't sign a contract extension. He was a new signing. I know that's why I put Bauer contract extension
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 3, 2021 14:31:24 GMT
Any proof that Scholes made the decision that Bauer should get a contract extension? We didn't have a manager at the time so it must have been his call. Must it, he wasn't the only person at the club.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 3, 2021 18:10:44 GMT
We didn't have a manager at the time so it must have been his call. Must it, he wasn't the only person at the club. Think people are missing the point he doesn’t make Every decision personally of course not like the captain on a ship doesn’t decode on dinner , cook the food drop the anchor , take the wheel . But the point of a ceo is they are paid big money to run the ship of it sinks on tiers watch they are accountable wjrejr they personally made the decision.S of not If decisions are being made they don’t agree with and they are unable to manage the to staff or control the key Influencers they are a poor ceo . Either way in his case the ship has sunk and the only debate seems to be did he make the decisions or not it’s not relevant they were made on his watch he’s accountable
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 3, 2021 18:34:21 GMT
Can anyone tell me what Tony Scholes actually does and what he is accountable for?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 3, 2021 19:24:09 GMT
Can anyone tell me what Tony Scholes actually does and what he is accountable for? According to the board statement and you would think they would know “The chief executive has overall responsibility for all football related matters “
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Post by lordb on Apr 3, 2021 19:26:11 GMT
We didn't have a manager at the time so it must have been his call. Must it, he wasn't the only person at the club. In terms of discussing contracts yes he was
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 4, 2021 8:21:18 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 4, 2021 8:45:11 GMT
Clearly that’s the logic for throwing the kitchen sink into the numbers it’s a one off opportunity where everyone’s numbers will be horrible and they can’t puck and choose who to focus on , and makes perfect sense .
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 4, 2021 9:06:00 GMT
Can anyone tell me what Tony Scholes actually does and what he is accountable for?
What is a CEO (Chief Executive Officer)?
A CEO, which stands for Chief Executive Officer, is the highest-ranking individual in a company or organization. The CEO is responsible for the overall success of a business entity or other organization and for making top-level managerial decisions. They may ask for input on major decisions, but they are the ultimate authority in making final decisions. There are other titles for CEOs, such as chief executive, president, and managing director.
And of course an £87m loss
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Apr 4, 2021 21:17:36 GMT
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Post by chiswickpotter on Apr 4, 2021 21:17:36 GMT
If Tony Scholes has managed the club finances to the extent that we write off player values whilst FFP rules are relaxed due to the pandemic to put us in a stronger position once the rules are back in place (or removed) then he's done his job, probably very well, given the stormy waters we've had to steer through. It is abundantly clear we are a manager led club. Scholes is there simply to ensure any deal is within the capabilities of the club to afford and if we can afford it, the manager gets the player he wants. It seems a bit unfair to blame him for absolutely everything and then, when there are signs that he's actually done his job well, to dismiss any credit as standard accounting and "no big deal". If he's done that, lets make him club accountant and not CEO and use his talents where they clearly lie He effectively is the CFO as well as the CEO we don’t have a CFO just a Finance Director which goes some way to explaining his value
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Apr 4, 2021 22:40:07 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 4, 2021 22:40:07 GMT
If he's done that, lets make him club accountant and not CEO and use his talents where they clearly lie He effectively is the CFO as well as the CEO we don’t have a CFO just a Finance Director which goes some way to explaining his value No way does a business our size need a FD and a CFO .
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 4, 2021 23:09:12 GMT
The dong is starting to shrivel up.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 5, 2021 13:43:15 GMT
Can anyone tell me what Tony Scholes actually does and what he is accountable for?
What is a CEO (Chief Executive Officer)?
A CEO, which stands for Chief Executive Officer, is the highest-ranking individual in a company or organization. The CEO is responsible for the overall success of a business entity or other organization and for making top-level managerial decisions. They may ask for input on major decisions, but they are the ultimate authority in making final decisions. There are other titles for CEOs, such as chief executive, president, and managing director.
And of course an £87m loss
Scholes out.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 5, 2021 13:46:40 GMT
Can anyone tell me what Tony Scholes actually does and what he is accountable for? It is very, very clear that he has absolutely zero accountability and gets paid the thick end of a million a year for the pleasure. Seriously one of the best jobs in all of football. He is one lucky lucky man. I'd do it for 10% of what he gets.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 27, 2021 6:30:46 GMT
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Post by nonameface on May 27, 2021 6:51:20 GMT
£30m reduction due to covid seems reasonable 😉
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May 27, 2021 6:59:52 GMT
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Post by telfordstokie on May 27, 2021 6:59:52 GMT
Seeing it set out like that is so stark. So so many bad decisions since relegation have led us to a point where we are paying over £1m a week in wages to a squad who aren’t even good enough to finish above Luton.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 27, 2021 7:12:19 GMT
How are the Coates’ so blind re Scholes?
It’s ridiculous.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 27, 2021 7:13:01 GMT
WOW !...just WOW
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Post by nonameface on May 27, 2021 7:17:57 GMT
This was the final year for parachute payments too, c£18m. The wage bill will need to be decimated this year, which will be tricky when considering we will want to sell to at least get the players amortised value.
Looks more and more likely we will need to sell at least one of the kids (if not more) if we can't get rid of the bomb squad, just to be able to meet FFP demands and not sign any decent new players.
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Post by LGH87 on May 27, 2021 7:18:27 GMT
How are the Coates’ so blind re Scholes? It’s ridiculous. Because they all just blame the managers. Not to mention episodes such as Rowett going over Scholes' head to get the McClean deal done.
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Post by Billy the kid on May 27, 2021 7:18:40 GMT
So in relation to FFP how screwed are we?
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Post by thestatusquo on May 27, 2021 7:20:32 GMT
They only need to look down the back of the sofa to replace it.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 27, 2021 7:25:29 GMT
£30m reduction due to covid seems reasonable 😉 inews.co.uk/sport/football/financial-fair-play-rule-change-covid-19-efl-transfer-value-800073Do we know definitively whether the EFL have accepted this? Presumably we've been in negotiation with them and we know they've signed off on it and is in line with EFL guidance with regard to acceptable Covid costs and FFP? Just waiting for some clever accountant to tell us how deep the FFP shit we're in is. It seems quite deep
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Post by theonlooker on May 27, 2021 7:26:43 GMT
Dear me. Loyal to a fault. By rights, the whole lot should go. If I were Denise I'd be having stern words with her brother and I'd be placing her husband in temporary charge whilst I searched for a competent football person to run the football club.
106% wages to revenue? Seriously? I know you have to back your managers but christ, at what point does a competent CEO stop it all? When does a competent owner step in and say enough is enough?
Seriously, if we get away with this three card trick we've done well. Expect a serious sanction incoming. No way will the other clubs rollover and allow that to happen. They will be queueing up to put the knife in.
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Post by LGH87 on May 27, 2021 7:41:17 GMT
And to think we haven't even come close to even challenging for promotion in 3 seasons.
What an absolute fucking shit show, yet they don't seem to believe anything they do is wrong and they just carry on as they were. It honestly beggars belief.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 27, 2021 7:44:36 GMT
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