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Post by claymore on Mar 22, 2021 12:20:55 GMT
Women's football would be much more watchable if they played it in peepo shirts and crotchless shorts, or better still with nowt on at all with access to they're changing rooms where the obligatory lesbian orgies take place everyone knows that, now that would make it more watchable, it would also give the women's game a really unique niche as it would be ideal for watching at home and not in stadiums.
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Post by claymore on Mar 22, 2021 12:24:46 GMT
I started the thread but my pry post has disappeared. I was saying I can’t watch it as much as I love football, nothing to do with it being women I find it just a completely different game. I would prefer to watch junior football than women’s. I think Sky and BBC should spend more time and money promoting the game to ethnic minorities and the less privileged that is how our game will thrive. They are trying to build it up to be on a level with the men’s game, RUBBISH, would you pay 40 or 50 pounds to watch a women’s game ? I think football already is accessible to BAME groups in the UK - you could argue that sports like football are among the few true examples of meritocracy in our society when it comes to race. Just look at the England squad and the likes of Belllingham, Rashford, Sterling, Calvert-Lewin, Walker, Lingard, Saka, Phillips etc, all of whom are from BAME backgrounds. I think investment into the women's game is warranted as it gives it a chance to grow. I don't doubt that the standard will never be close to the men's game, but marketing the WSL and investing into it at grassroots level gives the women's game the chance to meet its potential. BAME players is not even an issue is it ?, I would think every club has a number of them in their squads these days, unlike the 60s and 70s when you rarely saw any of them on the pitch.
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Post by brizzlestokie on Mar 22, 2021 12:29:46 GMT
I think football already is accessible to BAME groups in the UK - you could argue that sports like football are among the few true examples of meritocracy in our society when it comes to race. Just look at the England squad and the likes of Belllingham, Rashford, Sterling, Calvert-Lewin, Walker, Lingard, Saka, Phillips etc, all of whom are from BAME backgrounds. I think investment into the women's game is warranted as it gives it a chance to grow. I don't doubt that the standard will never be close to the men's game, but marketing the WSL and investing into it at grassroots level gives the women's game the chance to meet its potential. BAME players is not even an issue is it ?, I would think every club has a number of them in their squads these days, unlike the 60s and 70s when you rarely saw any of them on the pitch. I don't think so. I suppose there are a surprising lack of Asian-British professional footballers given Asian-British people apparently comprise around 8% of people in England, but I don't know enough about the reasons for that to say why that is
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Post by apb1 on Mar 22, 2021 12:35:45 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Mar 22, 2021 12:59:22 GMT
I don't know why people get wound up about women's football at all. It's just a sport and they seem to be playing it a very high level these days. The top female league is not quite at the level of the male game yet, but sexual dimorphism may never allow such a gap to be bridged.
What I do find odd, however, is the media are now trying to over-compensate in their reporting. There was a sports show a few months back on 5Live and they had Clare Balding on it, which was probably their biggest mistake to be fair. Balding spent between 5 and 10 minutes talking about the history of women's football in recent years. She repeatedly made statements like "Now that women's football is widely recognized as equally entertaining, if not more so, than the male game" and "Women's football is now widely regarded as a better option" etc. She kept making these statements, as if anyone was actually believing her.
Women's football is a great sport in its own right, but when you decide that you want to compare it to the men's game and make the debate about which is more entertaining, then obviously the male game which has been through probably 100 years worth of growth in comparison is more likely to be considered the more popular option entertainment wise.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Mar 22, 2021 13:00:24 GMT
I was genuinely looking forward to attending a few games at the Women's Euros this year,until Covid came along.Home support and a competitive England side,could've been some cracking occasions.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 22, 2021 13:05:53 GMT
The whole "get in the kitchen", "why aren't you behind the ironing board?", "let's hope they swap shirts at full time" routine is as unfunny as it is tedious. Like you say, if you have no interest in watching, don't watch......
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 22, 2021 13:39:52 GMT
Everybody has the choice whether they watch/interested in woman’s football.My own opinion is like Cns said earlier I feel it’s being forced upon the masses with the constant mentions of it on media outlets. Vidiprinter now includes the latest scores on both the BBC and SSN🤔reporters watching games on Sky also🤔 BBC News last night just before Match of the Day2,FA Cup action,Premier league snippets then a goal from Tottenham ladies v Bristol City ladies🤔(why?who gives a shit) it’s not sporting headlines for me and I suppose for the majority?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 22, 2021 13:48:01 GMT
Everybody has the choice whether they watch/interested in woman’s football.My own opinion is like Cns said earlier I feel it’s being forced upon the masses with the constant mentions of it on media outlets. Vidiprinter now includes the latest scores on both the BBC and SSN🤔reporters watching games on Sky also🤔 BBC News last night just before Match of the Day2,FA Cup action,Premier league snippets then a goal from Tottenham ladies v Bristol City ladies🤔(why?who gives a shit) it’s not sporting headlines for me and I suppose for the majority?
Did you have to turn down the TV in disgust and bat away any fearful images of women's scorelines....or did you just ignore them for the 3 seconds they were actually on for and then go about your business?
"Forced upon the masses"...for god's sake man, get a grip!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 13:50:52 GMT
Everybody has the choice whether they watch/interested in woman’s football.My own opinion is like Cns said earlier I feel it’s being forced upon the masses with the constant mentions of it on media outlets. Vidiprinter now includes the latest scores on both the BBC and SSN🤔reporters watching games on Sky also🤔 BBC News last night just before Match of the Day2,FA Cup action,Premier league snippets then a goal from Tottenham ladies v Bristol City ladies🤔(why?who gives a shit) it’s not sporting headlines for me and I suppose for the majority? I suppose what is interesting (to me) to discuss here is, who decides what is entertaining? The media have always found ways to influence people’s consideration of what they like to watch. It’s in everything from the language and tone that they use to the colours on the screens. Women’s football has been neglected, despite the fact that many, many women watch football. Why shouldn’t young girls get exposed to more information about the women’s game? Why should they have to find some niche place to put it? We don’t do the same with women’s tennis etc.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 22, 2021 13:50:58 GMT
Everybody has the choice whether they watch/interested in woman’s football.My own opinion is like Cns said earlier I feel it’s being forced upon the masses with the constant mentions of it on media outlets. Vidiprinter now includes the latest scores on both the BBC and SSN🤔reporters watching games on Sky also🤔 BBC News last night just before Match of the Day2,FA Cup action,Premier league snippets then a goal from Tottenham ladies v Bristol City ladies🤔(why?who gives a shit) it’s not sporting headlines for me and I suppose for the majority? Why are mentions of women's football in the media "forcing" it on the masses? There are far more mentions of men's football in the media but you don't claim that it is being forced on the masses. What is your alternative to mentions of women's football in the media? Full censorship or, perhaps, a quota system where media outlets are only allowed to print 10 words on women's football for every 300 or 500 words they print about men's football? Do you actually believe in the concept of a free press?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 22, 2021 14:22:29 GMT
Everybody has the choice whether they watch/interested in woman’s football.My own opinion is like Cns said earlier I feel it’s being forced upon the masses with the constant mentions of it on media outlets. Vidiprinter now includes the latest scores on both the BBC and SSN🤔reporters watching games on Sky also🤔 BBC News last night just before Match of the Day2,FA Cup action,Premier league snippets then a goal from Tottenham ladies v Bristol City ladies🤔(why?who gives a shit) it’s not sporting headlines for me and I suppose for the majority?
Did you have to turn down the TV in disgust and bat away any fearful images of women's scorelines....or did you just ignore them for the 3 seconds they were actually on for and then go about your business?
"Forced upon the masses"...for god's sake man, get a grip!
As I said we all have our opinions on the matter,if you don’t agree fair enough.It doesn’t warrant the coverage it gets for me
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 22, 2021 14:23:27 GMT
Everybody has the choice whether they watch/interested in woman’s football.My own opinion is like Cns said earlier I feel it’s being forced upon the masses with the constant mentions of it on media outlets. Vidiprinter now includes the latest scores on both the BBC and SSN🤔reporters watching games on Sky also🤔 BBC News last night just before Match of the Day2,FA Cup action,Premier league snippets then a goal from Tottenham ladies v Bristol City ladies🤔(why?who gives a shit) it’s not sporting headlines for me and I suppose for the majority? Why are mentions of women's football in the media "forcing" it on the masses? There are far more mentions of men's football in the media but you don't claim that it is being forced on the masses. What is your alternative to mentions of women's football in the media? Full censorship or, perhaps, a quota system where media outlets are only allowed to print 10 words on women's football for every 300 or 500 words they print about men's football? Do you actually believe in the concept of a free press? The interest level in men’s football may have something to do with that🤔
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 22, 2021 14:52:49 GMT
Why are mentions of women's football in the media "forcing" it on the masses? There are far more mentions of men's football in the media but you don't claim that it is being forced on the masses. What is your alternative to mentions of women's football in the media? Full censorship or, perhaps, a quota system where media outlets are only allowed to print 10 words on women's football for every 300 or 500 words they print about men's football? Do you actually believe in the concept of a free press? The interest level in men’s football may have something to do with that🤔 The interest level in men's football isn't as high as you think. No way are a majority of people in the UK interested in men's football. Obviously a majority of people on this message board are - but not the populace as a whole.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 22, 2021 15:06:57 GMT
The interest level in men’s football may have something to do with that🤔 The interest level in men's football isn't as high as you think. No way are a majority of people in the UK interested in men's football. Obviously a majority of people on this message board are - but not the populace as a whole. I think the attendances in all the 4 main leagues before Covid may tell a different story
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 22, 2021 16:09:57 GMT
The interest level in men's football isn't as high as you think. No way are a majority of people in the UK interested in men's football. Obviously a majority of people on this message board are - but not the populace as a whole. I think the attendances in all the 4 main leagues before Covid may tell a different story 66 million people in the UK. Say 60 million of secondary school age and over. Over 30 million interested in football - I don't think so.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 22, 2021 17:10:36 GMT
The interest level in men's football isn't as high as you think. No way are a majority of people in the UK interested in men's football. Obviously a majority of people on this message board are - but not the populace as a whole. I think the attendances in all the 4 main leagues before Covid may tell a different story
Not if you know what the word "majority" means
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Post by claymore on Mar 23, 2021 9:10:38 GMT
Just wondering if there is a Bristol derby in the women's game ?, I hope so, it would be great to see both Bristols at the same time, and if they exchanged shirts at the end, we could see both Bristols Bristols.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 24, 2021 18:16:34 GMT
I’m sure it’s got it’s fans and they have as much right to be on the box as any other sport, I won’t complain about that. But it’s utter shite to watch in my opinion. It’s got the same attraction as indoor bowls or whatever other rubbish BBC churns out.
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Post by independent on Mar 29, 2021 20:11:21 GMT
I’m sure it’s got it’s fans and they have as much right to be on the box as any other sport, I won’t complain about that. But it’s utter shite to watch in my opinion. It’s got the same attraction as indoor bowls or whatever other rubbish BBC churns out. I don't care about women's football at all. Sky and BBC have paid £7/8 million for the rights. I think that tells a story about how valuable a commodity the rights are. The women's game cannot support itself financially and relies on the men's game to bankroll it. There is even talk of making it obligatory for every Premier club to have a Ladies team. They appear to be following a policy of getting their income from Sponsorship and TV in the future. This is probably a wise decision as attendances have fallen since the 2016 World Cup. The information below is from 2019 Their regular attendances are significantly lower: league leaders Atletico have averaged about 600 fans per game this season, while Serie A Femminile leaders Juve have an average of about 450. In the Women's Super League, Europe's only fully professional women's division, Chelsea and Manchester City enjoy the biggest crowds, averaging 1,864 and 1,409 respectively last season. In France, newly-crowned champions Lyon are a dominant force, and their success makes them the best-supported team in France with an average of 1,428 fans last season, while second-placed Paris St-Germain averaged 1,010. In Germany, two-time Champions League winners Wolfsburg are the best supported team with 1,689 fans on average last season, but there are also four other teams whose average is more than 1,000. World Cup: The bonuses are paid out of the Fifa prize fund. Whereas the French FA got $38m in prize money for its team’s triumph at the 2018 World Cup, the US Soccer federation received only $4m for winning the 2019 women’s competition.In total, Fifa awarded $30m to the competing women’s teams and $400m to the men. Where will Womens' football get it's audience from ? Women are not supporting it in any numbers and there is so much Men's football available that even if men were interested they don't have the time to go to games.
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