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Post by a on Mar 20, 2021 17:29:07 GMT
Exactly. There’ll be some gutted on here tonight as it makes their incessant moaning a bit invalid. Good times. Well done MON! Oh dont talk bollocks .. we're all stoke fans on here! ... we just dont all agree with everything. It’s really not bollocks. Some of our fans would rather we had lost so as to justify their vilification of O’Neill. I’m certain of it in fact.
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Post by greenhoff on Mar 20, 2021 17:29:30 GMT
Bad sight at the end there, Campbell hobbling down the steps... Yes I thought that, not only was he hobbling but he was grimacing every time he went down a step too. Can't see him back for the start of the season. Did we ever find out what the injury was?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 20, 2021 17:34:31 GMT
He did settle for a point, as I said in those last 5/10 its exactly what he did, Powell of for Tymon pretty much says it all. Powell went off injured. Allen went off exhausted. Any substitution we make weakens the 11 on the pitch. Powell injured or not doesn't matter, he could have brought on a more attacking player. Allen going off didn't make a difference to us going forward. Weather you like it or not its just the kind of manager he is, he's very very cautious, he's sat back time and time again since he got here, bloody hell it was hardly a controversial thing to say
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 20, 2021 17:39:33 GMT
Powell went off injured. Allen went off exhausted. Any substitution we make weakens the 11 on the pitch. Powell injured or not doesn't matter, he could have brought on a more attacking player. Allen going off didn't make a difference to us going forward. Weather you like it or not its just the kind of manager he is, he's very very cautious, he's sat back time and time again since he got here, bloody hell it was hardly a controversial thing to say Like who? For arguments sake, let's say Campbell had returned from injury and was on the bench today. Who do you think he'd have bought on for Powell? Tymon or Campbell? When Allen went off, had Clucas or Cousins been on the bench, do you think he'd have bought Vokes on? You are moaning for moanings sake. You are welded to a view of the manager being negative and that's it. Irrespective of what happens in front of your eyes, it's negative shit. You said we didn't try to win in midweek yet we hit the bar in the last minute when a midfielder headed a cross from a full back against the bar. That isn't a team not trying to win the game. Any substitution we make at the moment weakens the 11 on the pitch. What is the point of changing anything unless we have to simply to get worse than we already are?
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2021 17:51:14 GMT
Oh dont talk bollocks .. we're all stoke fans on here! ... we just dont all agree with everything. It’s really not bollocks. Some of our fans would rather we had lost so as to justify their vilification of O’Neill. I’m certain of it in fact. I’m glad we won and I still want him sacked.
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Post by mowlee on Mar 20, 2021 17:52:27 GMT
Am undecided on MON.. I think he’s a great person an done well too keep us up last year but I just don’t know.. 14 months is a fair bit of time too get your team the way u want it but the game today was good.. in control but lack that little bit of quality.. I hope it does work out for MON.. stick too the back 3 an try an improve.. Andy Carroll an Dwight Gayle out of contact at the end of this season.. one of them pair would do us
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Post by musik on Mar 20, 2021 18:02:59 GMT
What areas do we have to strenghten in our team prior to the Premier League?
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 20, 2021 18:04:29 GMT
Brown, is your memory going. He had a shit game and managed to score from 5 yards out, well done to him on getting the goal but that doesn't suddenly make him a good player, how many goals has he scored this season? Do you at anytime question your judgement? I have made a personel judgement about Brown's ability and his performances and I believe I have stated that but it is your description of his goal that takes the biscuit with me. Brown's goal was far from being an easy goal. Brown did extremely well to get away from the two Derby players covering the far post. In scoring the goal his anticipation and pace got him the right side of the players and he finished well from a super delivery. The player deserves credit for the goal! If Campbell had scored that goal you would have been all over it. Swallow your pride and give credit where it is due!
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 20, 2021 18:06:33 GMT
I am pleased for Brown that he scored the winner! You won't see many of them detractors coming on saying I was wrong! That's because his detractors aren't wrong. Everyone can see his movement and workrate. He lacks any real football nous and an odd goal in ten doesn't change that. When he gets proper coaching, over a sustained period of time he will improve. To what level nobody on here will know. He will do well to leave the shushing alone though. When fans are back in the ground they won't take that from a player with his record and they will destroy him given half a chance. I think you need to take a close look at his goal! He did not stand still in getting to where the ball arrived in the goal area!
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 20, 2021 18:08:59 GMT
I am pleased for Brown that he scored the winner! You won't see many of them detractors coming on saying I was wrong! He's scored 4 goals in 3000 minutes almost prolific. I've always believed that credit should be given where it is due! You need to swallow your garbage! He is a better football player than you are a football critic!
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 20, 2021 18:09:05 GMT
That's because his detractors aren't wrong. Everyone can see his movement and workrate. He lacks any real football nous and an odd goal in ten doesn't change that. When he gets proper coaching, over a sustained period of time he will improve. To what level nobody on here will know. He will do well to leave the shushing alone though. When fans are back in the ground they won't take that from a player with his record and they will destroy him given half a chance. I think you need to take a close look at his goal! He did not stand still in getting to where the ball arrived in the goal area! Stand still? I commended him on his workrate and movement. Try reading posts first before you comment.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 20, 2021 18:11:41 GMT
He's scored 4 goals in 3000 minutes almost prolific. I've always believed that credit should be given where it is due! You need to swallow your garbage! He is a better football player than you are a football critic! He certainly is, the again I am not a football critic and he's a paid professional footballer
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Post by stokesaint1 on Mar 20, 2021 18:11:41 GMT
Am undecided on MON.. I think he’s a great person an done well too keep us up last year but I just don’t know.. 14 months is a fair bit of time too get your team the way u want it but the game today was good.. in control but lack that little bit of quality.. I hope it does work out for MON.. stick too the back 3 an try an improve.. Andy Carroll an Dwight Gayle out of contact at the end of this season.. one of them pair would do us [/b] Carroll's value would be keeping Fletcher company in the treatment room for the majority of the season. Gayle's best years are now probably behind him. I'd be happier with a much younger striker plucked from the lower leagues.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 20, 2021 18:15:20 GMT
I think you need to take a close look at his goal! He did not stand still in getting to where the ball arrived in the goal area! Stand still? I commended him on his workrate and movement. Try reading posts first before you comment. I have read your comment again and it still does not seem very positive. You made the comment "Everyone can see his pace and workrate" Did you mean this in a positive or negative way. If you look at his movement for the goal to quote Jimmy Greaves "The art of scoring goals is to arrive in the goal area at the same time as the ball without being offside and put it into the goal." I'll repeat that Brown is not my first choice if everyone is fit but today he did all his team mates, the fans and the club a massive favour.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 20, 2021 18:23:18 GMT
Stand still? I commended him on his workrate and movement. Try reading posts first before you comment. I have read your comment again and it still does not seem very positive. You made the comment "Everyone can see his pace and workrate" Did you mean this in a positive or negative way. If you look at his movement for the goal to quote Jimmy Greaves "The art of scoring goals is to arrive in the goal area at the same time as the ball and put it into the goal." I'll repeat that Brown is not my first choice if everyone is fit but today he did all his team mates, the fans and the club a massive favour. A massive favour I thought that was why he get's paid it's his job.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 20, 2021 18:23:55 GMT
Stand still? I commended him on his workrate and movement. Try reading posts first before you comment. I have read your comment again and it still does not seem very positive. You made the comment "Everyone can see his pace and workrate" Did you mean this in a positive or negative way. If you look at his movement for the goal to quote Jimmy Greaves "The art of scoring goals is to arrive in the goal area at the same time as the ball and put it into the goal." I'll repeat that Brown is not my first choice if everyone is fit but today he did all his team mates, the fans and the club a massive favour. I'm not surprised you've read it as a negative. When you refer to supporters of this club as "manure", as you have on this thread, there isn't much lower you can sink.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 20, 2021 18:49:40 GMT
I have read your comment again and it still does not seem very positive. You made the comment "Everyone can see his pace and workrate" Did you mean this in a positive or negative way. If you look at his movement for the goal to quote Jimmy Greaves "The art of scoring goals is to arrive in the goal area at the same time as the ball and put it into the goal." I'll repeat that Brown is not my first choice if everyone is fit but today he did all his team mates, the fans and the club a massive favour. I'm not surprised you've read it as a negative. When you refer to supporters of this club as "manure", as you have on this thread, there isn't much lower you can sink. I am sure far worse words are aimed at players, staff and supporters on this site. In fact "manure" is very useful to some people! I really think that your post will be seen as a negative rather than positive one.
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Post by independent on Mar 20, 2021 19:08:32 GMT
Carroll or Gayle. Definitely neither. Anyone got a list of players who will be out of contract in June?
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Post by independent on Mar 20, 2021 19:13:31 GMT
Ideally get a club to accept one of our misfits (even with us paying most of his wages) while we sign one of their out of contract players.
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Post by mowlee on Mar 20, 2021 19:27:39 GMT
Assombilonga from Middlesbrough’s on a free end of season.. Gayle would be better tho.. guaranteed goals at championship level
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Post by dudnostokie on Mar 20, 2021 19:51:36 GMT
Do you at anytime question your judgement? I have made a personel judgement about Brown's ability and his performances and I believe I have stated that but it is your description of his goal that takes the biscuit with me. Brown's goal was far from being an easy goal. Brown did extremely well to get away from the two Derby players covering the far post. In scoring the goal his anticipation and pace got him the right side of the players and he finished well from a super delivery. The player deserves credit for the goal! If Campbell had scored that goal you would have been all over it. Swallow your pride and give credit where it is due! You're asking too much mate. Some people have the mental capacity to critically analyse objectively, others don't. Unfortunately, there are people on here that can't see past their own bias, it's a shame but they're the problem (not that they will ever notice).
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Post by comeonstokeee on Mar 20, 2021 19:56:14 GMT
Assombalonga would be a waste of time. I'd rather that lad from Accrington, Dion Charles wouldn't cost too much and could rotate with fletcher. Or Luke Jephcott from Plymouth
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Post by callisto11 on Mar 20, 2021 20:19:49 GMT
Don't we still have Afobe ? What's he doing these days?
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Post by rambo61 on Mar 20, 2021 20:26:26 GMT
Is Brown actually a footballer??? He's fucking wank and shouldnt be anywhere near the first team. He's an Oneill sighning...is that why he's playing or is it because the option of Vokes is even worse???? Bit of both I'd say!!! 🤔 good point to be honest... his goal changes fuck all...he's wank!!
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Post by mjg13x on Mar 20, 2021 20:59:49 GMT
Don't we still have Afobe ? What's he doing these days? On loan I believe.
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Post by musik on Mar 20, 2021 21:22:04 GMT
Don't we still have Afobe ? What's he doing these days? On loan I believe. We could get him back if he wanted to.
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Post by stokeykez on Mar 20, 2021 22:02:10 GMT
Yes I thought that, not only was he hobbling but he was grimacing every time he went down a step too. Can't see him back for the start of the season. Did we ever find out what the injury was? Ruptured ACL, he is only 12 weeks post surgery so going up and down stairs will still be difficult, I would imagine sitting for 90 mins and then getting up he would find it painful and stiff when he starts to move. Start of the season is probable, he has another 3-4 months before preseason.
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Post by stokeykez on Mar 20, 2021 22:02:54 GMT
We could get him back if he wanted to. I would.swap him for.vokes any day, at least he can run
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Post by stormin on Mar 21, 2021 16:33:05 GMT
Am undecided on MON.. I think he’s a great person an done well too keep us up last year but I just don’t know.. 14 months is a fair bit of time too get your team the way u want it but the game today was good.. in control but lack that little bit of quality.. I hope it does work out for MON.. stick too the back 3 an try an improve.. Andy Carroll an Dwight Gayle out of contact at the end of this season.. one of them pair would do us If and when we get promotion we need to go up with a strong talented team, not like West Brom, Fulham etc who make nobs of themselves up and down like a fiddlers elbow. Stoke have at least ten players in the departure lounge which need to be sorted this summer so MON can go for quality players, I reckon at least 75% of the Championship teams are jealous of Stoke, MON is very loyal to and earns the respect of his players, he is the first manager to introduce academy players into first team action so if you want to go back to 3 managers a season like all of our local Midlands teams and mostley into the relegation zone then you are as stupid as you sound.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 17:11:31 GMT
We could get him back if he wanted to. Not sure we can if they've paid a fee for a season long loan
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