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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 16, 2021 22:05:58 GMT
the latest legislation protects statues so we are stuck with Vokes
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Post by Old School Stokie on Mar 16, 2021 22:27:18 GMT
When you look at the 5 minutes and just one or two touches from Norton he looks miles better option than Brown - so hopefully we can bin Brown and play Norton from now on
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Post by Goonie on Mar 16, 2021 22:35:22 GMT
the latest legislation protects statues so we are stuck with Vokes Can we not pay for some background check to see if he was has a slave trader or wide beater in his genealogy?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 16, 2021 23:21:11 GMT
Don't know about sitters, Powell's maybe, certainly should have got it on target. The other chance their keeper made a good save then the defender made a good block on the line with the follow up. Unlucky with Allen's header hitting the bar. Cardiff certainly missed a couple of gold plated sitters. That Moore's finishing was eye poison Moore & Vokes must have gone to the same finishing school.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 17, 2021 4:14:03 GMT
People that desperate to have a pop at Vokes they're giving him other people's misses. He can have my missus with pleasure. We’ve all had your missus with pleasure
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Post by underdog on Mar 17, 2021 7:25:39 GMT
the latest legislation protects statues so we are stuck with Vokes Mwhahahah
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 17, 2021 9:45:13 GMT
How are Cardiff where they are btw?
They're absolutely fucking shit.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 17, 2021 9:49:55 GMT
How are Cardiff where they are btw? They're absolutely fucking shit. They were terrible in the reverse fixture too..if vokes had scored the penalty it was game over.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 17, 2021 9:52:49 GMT
How are Cardiff where they are btw? They're absolutely fucking shit. They were terrible in the reverse fixture too..if vokes had scored the penalty it was game over. Yeah we should have won that one comfortably. And despite not being even good last night, we were the better team and if we had won it, it would have been deserved. Whereas Cardiff wouldn't have deserved to nick it imo. This is why I don't agree with anyone who doesn't think we should be challenging for the play offs. It's a toss league.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 17, 2021 9:54:40 GMT
Not help by the rest of them creating pretty much nothing for him. In the last seconds of the game a cross went into the box, middle of the goal, 5 or 6 yards out. Where was Big Sam for what is supposed to be his bread and butter? Nowhere to be fucking seen that's where, leaving his bread and butter centre forwards header to the smallest and 2nd wankest player on the pitch. We create nothing for him because he's a useless sack of shit who is never in a position for his teammates to create anything for him. Next time he comes to see me to get his Orthopaedic Mattress specially designed for his fat arse, I'll make him one that breaks his back! He probably gave up, imagine knowing that there's very little chance of a ball going near you even if you do bother eventually you'll give up. I'm not saying he's amazing and hard done by, he hasn't been great but if you get it wide and get some half decent crosses into the box he'd at least have a chance at trying something. The way we use him is puzzling, we don't set up to even try and help him when he comes on.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 17, 2021 9:54:45 GMT
They were terrible in the reverse fixture too..if vokes had scored the penalty it was game over. Yeah we should have won that one comfortably. And despite not being even good last night, we were the better team and if we had won it, it would have been deserved. Whereas Cardiff wouldn't have deserved to nick it imo. This is why I don't agree with anyone who doesn't think we should be challenging for the play offs. It's a toss league. True, it's crap. If we set up properly,we should easily be challenging.
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 17, 2021 10:06:13 GMT
That game last night was fuckin awful. sadly like every other game this season
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 17, 2021 10:41:02 GMT
In the last seconds of the game a cross went into the box, middle of the goal, 5 or 6 yards out. Where was Big Sam for what is supposed to be his bread and butter? Nowhere to be fucking seen that's where, leaving his bread and butter centre forwards header to the smallest and 2nd wankest player on the pitch. We create nothing for him because he's a useless sack of shit who is never in a position for his teammates to create anything for him. Next time he comes to see me to get his Orthopaedic Mattress specially designed for his fat arse, I'll make him one that breaks his back! He probably gave up, imagine knowing that there's very little chance of a ball going near you even if you do bother eventually you'll give up. I'm not saying he's amazing and hard done by, he hasn't been great but if you get it wide and get some half decent crosses into the box he'd at least have a chance at trying something. The way we use him is puzzling, we don't set up to even try and help him when he comes on. I can't agree I'm afraid. There is no system or set up that will help Sam Vokes because he's incapable of helping himself. He's beyond useless. If we get wide and get some decent crosses into the box he's either not there at all or he fucks it up. See his missed chance v Luton, countless missed penalties. The bloke is fucking useless. He can't run, can't jump, has no touch to speak of, doesn't link up play and he wouldn't know where the back of the net is if you drew him a map to show him the way. He's toss and is way beyond any type of defence of his abject performances when called upon.
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Mar 17, 2021 10:45:27 GMT
Don't know about sitters, Powell's maybe, certainly should have got it on target. The other chance their keeper made a good save then the defender made a good block on the line with the follow up. Unlucky with Allen's header hitting the bar. Cardiff certainly missed a couple of gold plated sitters. That Moore's finishing was eye poison I think the phrase is "his first touch let him down", thank god. With regards our finishing I think we are lacking in confidence to have a go, then when we do, we lack composure, with a tendancy to snatch at chances.
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Post by yyy on Mar 17, 2021 10:56:04 GMT
That Moore's finishing was eye poison I think the phrase is "his first touch let him down", thank god. With regards our finishing I think we are lacking in confidence to have a go, then when we do, we lack composure, with a tendancy to snatch at chances. The fist chance he had was a heavy touch, the second was even worse, rank bad finishing just the keeper to beat, tried to side foot it in
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 17, 2021 18:10:43 GMT
He probably gave up, imagine knowing that there's very little chance of a ball going near you even if you do bother eventually you'll give up. I'm not saying he's amazing and hard done by, he hasn't been great but if you get it wide and get some half decent crosses into the box he'd at least have a chance at trying something. The way we use him is puzzling, we don't set up to even try and help him when he comes on. I can't agree I'm afraid. There is no system or set up that will help Sam Vokes because he's incapable of helping himself. He's beyond useless. If we get wide and get some decent crosses into the box he's either not there at all or he fucks it up. See his missed chance v Luton, countless missed penalties. The bloke is fucking useless. He can't run, can't jump, has no touch to speak of, doesn't link up play and he wouldn't know where the back of the net is if you drew him a map to show him the way. He's toss and is way beyond any type of defence of his abject performances when called upon. Who gets it right 100% of the time and given what little service he does get its no surprise really, but this is more than just Vokes, given the players we were linked with as a striker options they seemed in a very similar mould to Vokes and its not a great indication of MONs ability to set up a team to play to the strengths of that type of player. Re not knowing where the back of the net is, its pretty clear he does in this league given his past record.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 17, 2021 18:15:33 GMT
I can't agree I'm afraid. There is no system or set up that will help Sam Vokes because he's incapable of helping himself. He's beyond useless. If we get wide and get some decent crosses into the box he's either not there at all or he fucks it up. See his missed chance v Luton, countless missed penalties. The bloke is fucking useless. He can't run, can't jump, has no touch to speak of, doesn't link up play and he wouldn't know where the back of the net is if you drew him a map to show him the way. He's toss and is way beyond any type of defence of his abject performances when called upon. Who gets it right 100% of the time and given what little service he does get its no surprise really, but this is more than just Vokes, given the players we were linked with as a striker options they seemed in a very similar mould to Vokes and its not a great indication of MONs ability to set up a team to play to the strengths of that type of player. Re not knowing where the back of the net is, its pretty clear he does in this league given his past record. What is his goals record? He's rarely been a regular goalscorer and pre Burnley hot spell alongside likes of Ings and Gray who made him look he was something more than a big lumbering journeyman. As for not getting it right 100% of the time, in his case just 1% would be nice.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 17, 2021 18:59:13 GMT
Not a fan Dave?.
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 17, 2021 20:36:06 GMT
That Moore's finishing was eye poison I think the phrase is "his first touch let him down", thank god. With regards our finishing I think we are lacking in confidence to have a go, then when we do, we lack composure, with a tendancy to snatch at chances. And to think, I spent my life chancing at.....never mind!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 17, 2021 23:14:27 GMT
Cardiff keeper in team of the week:
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2021 9:49:44 GMT
As a person, he's a lovely bloke and when he was at Burnley he was willing to help out with anything we asked of him. As a player for Stoke City, I absolutely cannot stand him.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2021 9:50:27 GMT
Cardiff keeper in team of the week: Typical. Throws one in v Watford, plays a blinder against us.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 18, 2021 10:39:01 GMT
I wouldn't say he had a blinder, in reality had as little to do as Davies did.
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