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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 26, 2021 12:25:19 GMT
To take a break from Stoke's woes...to the potentially cheerier prospect of watching England in the sun in front of actual people....
Suppose a lot depends on if Southgate goes with a back 3 (which it looks like he possibly will?) or a back 4 - but there's going to be some seriously good attacking talent not even in the 23, let alone the XI!
And if he plays both Rice and Henderson (which he well could) , maybe only one of all the Grealish/Foden/Mount-types will figure? Glad I aren't having to make the call between all that lot.
I like the fact that Angus Gunn is as high as 8th(!) in the goalie betting list.
Do you just take Kane and DCL as strikers, with Rashford as the cover? And then take loads of the new crop of attacking mids in the 23?
Skybet Odds to make the squad
GK: Pickford 1/10 Pope 1/10 Henderson 1/8 McCarthy 5/2 Darlow 7 Johnstone 8 Ramsdale 20 Gunn 25
CB: Maguire 1/10 Dier 1/7 Stones 2/7 Mings 11/8 Keane 6/4 Coady 5/2 Godfrey 8 Tarkowski 9 Holding 10 White 12 Konsa 12 Holgate 16 Tomori 20 Smalling 25 Gomez (inj?)
FB/WB: Alexander-Arnold 1/8 Chilwell 1/5 Shaw 1/3 Saka 8/11 Walker 5/6 Trippier 11/10 James 6/5 Wan-Bissaka 7/2 Lamptey 28 Targett 28
MIDF: Rice 1/10 Henderson 1/6 Phillips 4/7 Ward-Prowse 9/4 Bellingham 5/2 Winks 3 Delph 16 Maitland-Niles 20
ATT MIDF/WIDE Sterling 1/16 Rashford 1/16 Sancho 1/16 Mount 1/7 Grealish 1/5 Foden 1/5 Maddison 2/5 Barnes 3 Greenwood 7/2 Lingard 7/2 Jones 6 Hudson-Odoi 7 Alli 8 Barkley 8 Smith-Rowe 8 Oxlade-Chambo 12 Harrison 16 Loftus-Cheek 16 Bowen 18 Eze 20
STR: Kane 1/16 Calvert-Lewin 1/2 Abraham 4 Ings 6 Bamford 7 Watkins 8 Vardy 16 Wilson 25 Antonio 33
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 12:33:58 GMT
Vardy announced his semi-retirement right? The forward line for me is great to see. Kane is the obvious first choice this season (as most) with the number of goals and assists he’s got. Calvert-Lewin is my second. Then I suppose it’s a choice between Ings and Bamford. I personally would take Ings, he scores less but offers a much better work rate.
This is all assuming that form charts stay the same etc.
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 26, 2021 12:34:35 GMT
We have this debate at work all the time, I think he will take
Pope Henderson Pickford
Wan Bisaka Trent Maguire Dier Stones Chilwell Trippier
Foden Mount Grealish Henderson Rice Barnes or Maddison
Sterling Sancho Rashford Kane Calvert-Lewin Bamford
I think Kalvin Phillips and Saka will miss out
Starting line up 4-3-3 (please not 3-4-3) Pope Wan bisaka Stones Maguire Trippier Henderson Grealish Foden Sterling Kane Rashford
What a team that is
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 26, 2021 12:39:12 GMT
If the first game was tomorrow my starting XI would be:
Pope
TAA Stones Maguire Shaw
Rice Winks
Sterling Foden Rashford
Kane
GK
Pope Pickford Henderson
RB
TAA Trippier (Southgate will take Walker)
LB
Shaw Saka (Southgate will take Chilwell)
CB
Stones Maguire Mings Coady (toss up between him and Keane)
CM
Rice Phillips Winks (Southgate will probs pick Dier) Henderson
RW/LW/AM
Foden Grealish Mount Sterling Sancho Rashford
ST
Kane Calvert-Lewin
Stones is playing well atm and deserves another chance.
Can see the argument for Mings to play over Maguire.
I don’t really rate Chilwell at all. Shaw has had a brilliant season and should be starting. Saka can play on the wing as well and gives you more options.
Rice is having a cracking season and deserves a shot in there.
I really like Winks and think he adds something different to any of the other deeper midfielders in there. He can control a game from deep and dictate the tempo from there. Not a lot of people seem to rate him from what I’ve seen but I do.
There’s some good players left out of the attackers.
We look short of strikers but all of the wingers/midfielders above bar Mount can play up front so I think it’s more than covered.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 26, 2021 12:47:54 GMT
Winks hasn’t been playing though Bayern. I’d go all for it and try and play Foden/ Grealish with Henderson and Rice as I think he’ll chose those latter two, with a front three of Kane, Sterling and Rashford. I think Shaw has been good this season two and think he will stick with TAA at right back. God forbid he goes three at the back, Dier can be a utility centre back/ DM.
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Post by marshy on Feb 26, 2021 12:48:45 GMT
GK
Pickford Pope Henderson
DEF TAA Walker Maguire Stones Mings Dier Chilwell Shaw
MID Henderson Rice Ward Prowse Grealish Foden Sterling Sancho Saka
ST Kane Calvert Lewin Rashford
Think that's 22 players so one of Winks/Phillips for the final holding midfielder spot
Starting 11 assuming everyone is fit:
Pickford
TAA Maguire Stones Shaw
Henderson Rice
Sterling Foden Grealish
Kane
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 26, 2021 12:52:28 GMT
Winks hasn’t been playing though Bayern. I’d go all for it and try and play Foden/ Grealish with Henderson and Rice as I think he’ll chose those latter two, with a front three of Kane, Sterling and Rashford. I think Shaw has been good this season two and think he will stick with TAA at right back. God forbid he goes three at the back, Dier can be a utility centre back/ DM. I’ve never been one that’s arsed about if they’re playing or not tbh. Out of all the central midfielders we have he’d be my first pick. I just like the way he plays and think it would compliment the players in front well. I’d be open to DM/Grealish/Foden but I’d be worried better teams would cut it open too easily. Dier will definitely go, he almost certainly shouldn’t.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 26, 2021 13:01:58 GMT
I think his first choice will be
Pickford
Maguire Mings Stones
Trippier Rice Henderson Saka
Sterling Foden Rashford
Kane
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Post by werrington on Feb 26, 2021 13:17:53 GMT
I think his first choice will be Pickford Maguire Mings Stones Trippier Rice Henderson Saka Sterling Foden Rashford Kane We’ll piss it with 12 players mate ....😊
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Post by neckender78 on Feb 26, 2021 13:20:17 GMT
We really do have an abundance of quality midfield and attacking players, its great to see. Unfortunatley some quality young players aren't even going to make the squad. On the odds for the squad I think Mason Holgate is overpriced at 16s. Looks a decent improving defender and can cover RB/RCB. I think Kane and DCL with Rashford as an option along with wide left is enough for a main striker in the squad.
In trying to pick a balanced team I would go
Pope
Trippier Holgate Stones Chilwell
Rice / Henderson Mount
Sancho Foden Sterling
Kane
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 26, 2021 13:38:12 GMT
I think his first choice will be Pickford Maguire Mings Stones Trippier Rice Henderson Saka Sterling Foden Rashford Kane We’ll piss it with 12 players mate ....😊 FFS!
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Post by datguy on Feb 26, 2021 13:51:18 GMT
Out score everyone else.
Pope
TAA Stones Maguire Shaw
Rice
Sterling Mount Foden Rashford
Kane
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 26, 2021 14:00:35 GMT
Take five forwards
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2021 14:04:51 GMT
There's 3 games coming up so there might be hope for a few others, Mason Holgate, Ben Godfrey, Mason Greenwood, Harvey Barnes maybe?
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 26, 2021 14:15:28 GMT
Henderson out for 10 weeks, so that's one off the list.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 26, 2021 14:15:45 GMT
There's 3 games coming up so there might be hope for a few others, Mason Holgate, Ben Godfrey, Mason Greenwood, Harvey Barnes maybe? Harvey Barnes should be in because jis dad scored the goal at Birmingham
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 26, 2021 14:17:44 GMT
Pope
TAA Stones Maguire Shaw
Rice Henderson
Foden Grealish Sterling
Kane
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Post by brizzlestokie on Feb 26, 2021 14:21:28 GMT
On the spot my startin XI atm would be:
Pope
Wan Bisaka Stones (still not convinced but not much competition at CB) Maguire Shaw (best English left back by a mile atm)
Henderson Bellingham
Sancho Foden Rashford
Kane
Our strongest positions by a mile are our attacking ones so we should prioritise that IMO. The fact I wouldn't start Sterling or Grealish shows our strength there.
Gives me a headache trying to figure out who I'd have in the full 23. I realise Bellingham is young but I would like to see either him or Loftus Cheek playing as an 8. Our CM options are pretty awful and they're the two players I can see adding some dynamism to the midfield.
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Post by brizzlestokie on Feb 26, 2021 14:22:35 GMT
On the spot my startin XI atm would be: Pope Wan Bisaka Stones (still not convinced but not much competition at CB) Maguire Shaw (best English left back by a mile atm) Henderson Bellingham Sancho Foden Rashford Kane Our strongest positions by a mile are our attacking ones so we should prioritise that IMO. The fact I wouldn't start Sterling or Grealish shows our strength there. Gives me a headache trying to figure out who I'd have in the full 23. I realise Bellingham is young but I would like to see either him or Loftus Cheek playing as an 8. Our CM options are pretty awful and they're the two players I can see adding some dynamism to the midfield. Just seen someone mention Henderson's injury. If that ends up ruling him out I'd go Rice + Bellingham in midfield.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 26, 2021 14:38:14 GMT
Bellingham is nowhere near the squad though, nor is Loftus-Cheek.
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Post by fulagoals on Feb 26, 2021 14:50:55 GMT
To take a break from Stoke's woes...to the potentially cheerier prospect of watching England in the sun in front of actual people.... Suppose a lot depends on if Southgate goes with a back 3 (which it looks like he possibly will?) or a back 4 - but there's going to be some seriously good attacking talent not even in the 23, let alone the XI! And if he plays both Rice and Henderson (which he well could) , maybe only one of all the Grealish/Foden/Mount-types will figure? Glad I aren't having to make the call between all that lot. I like the fact that Angus Gunn is as high as 8th(!) in the goalie betting list. Do you just take Kane and DCL as strikers, with Rashford as the cover? And then take loads of the new crop of attacking mids in the 23? Skybet Odds to make the squadGK: Pickford 1/10 Pope 1/10 Henderson 1/8 McCarthy 5/2 Darlow 7 Johnstone 8 Ramsdale 20 Gunn 25 CB: Maguire 1/10 Dier 1/7 Stones 2/7 Mings 11/8 Keane 6/4 Coady 5/2 Godfrey 8 Tarkowski 9 Holding 10 White 12 Konsa 12 Holgate 16 Tomori 20 Smalling 25 Gomez (inj?) FB/WB: Alexander-Arnold 1/8 Chilwell 1/5 Shaw 1/3 Saka 8/11 Walker 5/6 Trippier 11/10 James 6/5 Wan-Bissaka 7/2 Lamptey 28 Targett 28 MIDF: Rice 1/10 Henderson 1/6 Phillips 4/7 Ward-Prowse 9/4 Bellingham 5/2 Winks 3 Delph 16 Maitland-Niles 20 ATT MIDF/WIDESterling 1/16 Rashford 1/16 Sancho 1/16 Mount 1/7 Grealish 1/5 Foden 1/5 Maddison 2/5 Barnes 3 Greenwood 7/2 Lingard 7/2 Jones 6 Hudson-Odoi 7 Alli 8 Barkley 8 Smith-Rowe 8 Oxlade-Chambo 12 Harrison 16 Loftus-Cheek 16 Bowen 18 Eze 20 STR: Kane 1/16 Calvert-Lewin 1/2 Abraham 4 Ings 6 Bamford 7 Watkins 8 Vardy 16 Wilson 25 Antonio 33 Is that actually our(well Southampton’s) Angus Gunn on that betting list?
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 26, 2021 14:59:59 GMT
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Post by fulagoals on Feb 26, 2021 15:13:15 GMT
I see Jack Clarke is on the list too, albeit a good way down. Although I suppose a bookie will give you odds on any player.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 26, 2021 15:20:06 GMT
Bellingham is nowhere near the squad though, nor is Loftus-Cheek. I think Bellingham is an injury or two away from it. Forgot about RLC. I really do think he’s class. Shame he’s injury prone.
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Post by brizzlestokie on Feb 26, 2021 15:20:31 GMT
Bellingham is nowhere near the squad though, nor is Loftus-Cheek. Yeah I'd be surprised if Loftus-Cheek makes the 23, it's just what I'd like to see. Bellingham really should be making the squad but we'll see. Have to say I forgot about Mount when mentioning potential 8s.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 26, 2021 15:23:09 GMT
It's just not the same without the tradition of getting pissed off that Butland, Shawcross, Crouch etc don't get a call-up.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 26, 2021 16:13:29 GMT
Shearers team
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 26, 2021 16:17:02 GMT
I'd have Grealish in for Mount and Shaw in for Chilwell, but not sure Gareth will, and he'll stick with Pickford.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 26, 2021 16:39:43 GMT
There's an abundance of talent out wide and in attacking midfield, but it's terrifying that the best we can do at DM is Declan Rice.
For the starting XI I'd go with:
Pickford
TAA Stones Maguire Chilwell
Henderson Foden Grealish
Sancho Kane Sterling
I'd also take Pope, Henderson, Walker, Dier, Keane, Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Phillips, Mount, Barnes, Rashford, DLC
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Post by datguy on Feb 26, 2021 16:49:15 GMT
I'd go for that as well, though I'd have Shaw over Chilwell. For me Chilwell's second choice, perhaps even third choice if he went three at the back again. Don't rate him. I'm certain Southgate loves him though.
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