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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 27, 2021 14:59:13 GMT
Bursik / Gunn - Really tough decision this. I'd stick with Bursik but if we are making a change, I'd go Gunn over Davies Smith, Collins, Souttar, RND Cousins, Thompson, Allen Clarke, Fletcher, Powell I prefer 4-2-3-1 but the boss isn't going to do that and I felt that Mclean being wide left on Friday actually nullified the threat that RND had posed in his first 2 games. Powell plays further inside from that position in the front 3, giving RND the space to bomb forward, so that would be my starting 11 on Saturday with the big assumption being that Fletcher is fit enough to start and contribute a good 65-70 minutes. ps...I can't stand Smith but I think it's price worth paying to get Collins and Souttar together at the back. I think this is just about the side I would go with. I posted yesterday that I think we should now be ready to go with Collins and Souttar at centre back and that Maclean as an out and out winger is not the right fit for 433 due to exactly what you are saying with regard to RND. Would have Allen in the centre of the midfield 3.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 27, 2021 15:28:54 GMT
Davies Collins Souttar Chester ND Mikkel Thompson Clarke Powell McClean Fletcher
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Post by skiptomylou on Jan 27, 2021 15:44:08 GMT
If we are on sky is it still a 3PM KO?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 27, 2021 15:46:22 GMT
If we are on sky is it still a 3PM KO? It is yes mate
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2021 16:19:00 GMT
Bursik / Gunn - Really tough decision this. I'd stick with Bursik but if we are making a change, I'd go Gunn over Davies Smith, Collins, Souttar, RND Cousins, Thompson, Allen Clarke, Fletcher, Powell I prefer 4-2-3-1 but the boss isn't going to do that and I felt that Mclean being wide left on Friday actually nullified the threat that RND had posed in his first 2 games. Powell plays further inside from that position in the front 3, giving RND the space to bomb forward, so that would be my starting 11 on Saturday with the big assumption being that Fletcher is fit enough to start and contribute a good 65-70 minutes. ps...I can't stand Smith but I think it's price worth paying to get Collins and Souttar together at the back. I think this is just about the side I would go with. I posted yesterday that I think we should now be ready to go with Collins and Souttar at centre back and that Maclean as an out and out winger is not the right fit for 433 due to exactly what you are saying with regard to RND. Would have Allen in the centre of the midfield 3. O'Neill's 4-3-3 tends to have a deeper player then 2 slightly more advanced on left and right of central man. Cousins would be my anchor with Allen to the right of him and Thompson to the left.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 27, 2021 16:28:09 GMT
I thought RND, Thompson and Powell all linked up well against Blackburn. Would go with that again. All good footballers. Agree that McClean blocked RND somewhat against Watford.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 27, 2021 16:29:36 GMT
I think this is just about the side I would go with. I posted yesterday that I think we should now be ready to go with Collins and Souttar at centre back and that Maclean as an out and out winger is not the right fit for 433 due to exactly what you are saying with regard to RND. Would have Allen in the centre of the midfield 3. O'Neill's 4-3-3 tends to have a deeper player then 2 slightly more advanced on left and right of central man. Cousins would be my anchor with Allen to the right of him and Thompson to the left. Dave, I can see what you're saying - I am big fan of Collins and Souttar at centre back, and believe that Gunn is the best keeper on our books right now. I do prefer Powell at no.10, but he is a good enough player to contribute from the left and we both know MON wants 433 to be his 'go to' formation (which means there is no room for a no.10). Only change I'd make is Clucas for Thompson.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 27, 2021 17:55:18 GMT
O'Neill's 4-3-3 tends to have a deeper player then 2 slightly more advanced on left and right of central man. Cousins would be my anchor with Allen to the right of him and Thompson to the left. Dave, I can see what you're saying - I am big fan of Collins and Souttar at centre back, and believe that Gunn is the best keeper on our books right now. I do prefer Powell at no.10, but he is a good enough player to contribute from the left and we both know MON wants 433 to be his 'go to' formation (which means there is no room for a no.10). Only change I'd make is Clucas for Thompson. I can't do with Clucas. Invisible man unless he scores. Don't rate him at all.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 27, 2021 17:57:02 GMT
I agree Dave, without goals he offers nothing. Thompson for me ahead of him, he has started scoring, making runs into the box and generally looking better all round than Clucas.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 28, 2021 14:40:38 GMT
Dave, I can see what you're saying - I am big fan of Collins and Souttar at centre back, and believe that Gunn is the best keeper on our books right now. I do prefer Powell at no.10, but he is a good enough player to contribute from the left and we both know MON wants 433 to be his 'go to' formation (which means there is no room for a no.10). Only change I'd make is Clucas for Thompson. I can't do with Clucas. Invisible man unless he scores. Don't rate him at all. Fair enough - all about opinions. At his best, I think his running can link midfield and attack, and his goals from midfield are key. He has been a a bit off colour this season, and injuries have held him back, but a consistent, injury-free run of games could see him contributing again, and half a dozen more goals from him would be most welcome in a team where the strikers' supply of goals has somewhat dried up.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 28, 2021 15:16:52 GMT
I can't do with Clucas. Invisible man unless he scores. Don't rate him at all. Fair enough - all about opinions. At his best, I think his running can link midfield and attack, and his goals from midfield are key. He has been a a bit off colour this season, and injuries have held him back, but a consistent, injury-free run of games could see him contributing again, and half a dozen more goals from him would be most welcome in a team where the strikers' supply of goals has somewhat dried up. Agree with that. A fully fit / firing Clucas is better than Thompson for me all day long. But can we afford to carry him for a long enough run of games while he (hopefully) picks up form again?
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Post by chadb91 on Jan 28, 2021 16:15:14 GMT
Fair enough - all about opinions. At his best, I think his running can link midfield and attack, and his goals from midfield are key. He has been a a bit off colour this season, and injuries have held him back, but a consistent, injury-free run of games could see him contributing again, and half a dozen more goals from him would be most welcome in a team where the strikers' supply of goals has somewhat dried up. Agree with that. A fully fit / firing Clucas is better than Thompson for me all day long. But can we afford to carry him for a long enough run of games while he (hopefully) picks up form again? Yes, I we want aspirations of climbing the table and push out way back into top 6 clucas surely has to play. It might not pay off but it's a risk I think he must take.
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Post by pmjh on Jan 28, 2021 16:15:54 GMT
4.3.3 Bursik
Collins Souttar Chester ND
Allen Cousins Thompson Clarke Fletcher Powell
I'd personally prefer 4.2.3.1 with Powell in the middle. However I think he's clever enough to do a job in MON's preferred system and so I'll go with that.
If Allen, Clucas and Mikel were fully fit and firing that would be my midfield 3. At the Mo they, Mikel in particular, visibly tire during games. So I'D start just one for now , pairing them with younger legs, and bring the others on during the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 17:11:50 GMT
I thought RND, Thompson and Powell all linked up well against Blackburn. Would go with that again. All good footballers. Agree that McClean blocked RND somewhat against Watford. You have to bear with him. McClean's a creature of habit and having been asked to play so deep for so long, he's a little confused to see someone in his place; he needs more creative instructions to go on than "Go on Macca". If he gets a pointer he'll move further forwards. Not that that will do any good, of course.
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Post by ratters on Jan 28, 2021 18:49:26 GMT
The simple fact whether you agree or disagree, he will not play souttar and collins as a CB pairing. It will be someone + chester, likely to be souttar which means collins plays at RB or he doesn't play
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 29, 2021 21:26:34 GMT
Spot on, he will always play Chester, if he is fit, or if not fit, Baath..not saying I agree but he will. Just as he will always play Mikel, unless injured.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 2:00:31 GMT
Gunn/Davies
Collins Souttar Chester RND
Allen Clucas
Clarke Powell Matondo
Fletcher
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 30, 2021 4:17:45 GMT
It'll be good if Stoke City score more goals because the rules of association football will deem us to be the victors.
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Post by steve66 on Jan 30, 2021 7:06:36 GMT
Bursik
Chester. Collins. Souttar. RND Obi. Allen. Powell Matondo. Clarke Fletcher
Just to add, would like Matondo & Clarke play closer to fletcher not necessarily wide!
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jan 30, 2021 8:15:42 GMT
It'll be good if Stoke City score more goals because the rules of association football will deem us to be the victors. Another 7 goal thriller with the number seven applying to us. We win.
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Post by gawa on Jan 30, 2021 9:26:52 GMT
No Mikel, Bursik, Vokes or Brown please in the starting XI.
Predicting a win by a 2 goal margin
Would love to see Clarke get a start today.
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Post by steve66 on Jan 30, 2021 9:55:22 GMT
No Mikel, Bursik, Vokes or Brown please in the starting XI. Predicting a win by a 2 goal margin Would love to see Clarke get a start today. Agree with most of those but not Bursik, he has been a breath of fresh air, a couple of mistakes yes but he’s still learning his trade and deserves to remain imo
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 30, 2021 10:17:47 GMT
I’d go with
Bursik
Smith Collins Soutter RND
Cousins Allen
McClean Powell Clarke
Fletcher
Please give Mikel a rest. Right now he’s a liability as his movement is so slow. I don’t think we’ll see many changes from Watford sadly. Fletcher and Powell have to start.
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 30, 2021 10:23:24 GMT
I worry like Cobham that he will play Mikel. Huddersfield are an energetic & mobile team and if we are not careful we will be overrun in midfield. We simply have to pick a mobile midfield to combat that.
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Post by ilikelamp on Jan 30, 2021 11:15:44 GMT
How come they are showing our game live at 3pm? I thought 3pm kick offs couldn’t be shown live or has that changed?
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Post by medwaypotter on Jan 30, 2021 11:20:02 GMT
How come they are showing our game live at 3pm? I thought 3pm kick offs couldn’t be shown live or has that changed? Doesn't make any odds with no crowd, it's only to not affect ticket sales.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jan 30, 2021 11:23:38 GMT
I can't believe the amount of people advocating Collins at right back. Make no bones, this lad is going to be a top quality centre half. He is not a right back though and playing him there impacts on the man in front of him. This season has gone. Get him at centre half forming a partnership with Souttar. If we are to progress getting these two together is a must. We all know he’ll be played there regardless. If it’s not Chester, it’s Bart, if it’s not Bart it’s bound to be Shawcross. I can’t get my head around it to be honest.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jan 30, 2021 11:25:32 GMT
No Mikel, Bursik, Vokes or Brown please in the starting XI. Predicting a win by a 2 goal margin Would love to see Clarke get a start today. Unfair on Bursik. I don’t understand why people want him dropped.
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Post by lordb on Jan 30, 2021 11:26:36 GMT
I can't believe the amount of people advocating Collins at right back. Make no bones, this lad is going to be a top quality centre half. He is not a right back though and playing him there impacts on the man in front of him. This season has gone. Get him at centre half forming a partnership with Souttar. If we are to progress getting these two together is a must. We all know he’ll be played there regardless. If it’s not Chester, it’s Bart, if it’s not Bart it’s bound to be Shawcross. I can’t get my head around it to be honest. It's simple Collins is our best right back We get more clean sheets with Chester in the side Of course Collins is better at CB however the team is better with him at RB rather than Smith.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 11:54:16 GMT
No Mikel, Bursik, Vokes or Brown please in the starting XI. Predicting a win by a 2 goal margin Would love to see Clarke get a start today. Unfair on Bursik. I don’t understand why people want him dropped. Unfair on Mikel too. Just because he's the first name on MON's teansheet doesn't mean gawa should plead to remove him.
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