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Post by wuzza on Jan 14, 2021 20:39:18 GMT
Thoughts: Has there ever been a worse penalty decision? How "Lampard-looking" is Lampard?!? Shilts looking cat-like; I'd been led to believe he was never very good for Stoke. What are all those pockets of applause around the ground about, when West ham score their goal? Are they all from Hammers fans in amongst the Stokies, or were home fans a bit more sporting back then?!? Yes in the 60s/70's home fans used to applaud goals by opposition teams if they were good goals. It was part of football culture I remember applauding Glen Hoddle's debut goal Watch Newcastle fans applaud John Mahoney's goal for Stoke on St.James Park....many, many examples on youtube It died out by the 80s The myth that Shilton was crap for Stoke is a bit annoying to me, as someone who saw the majority of his games. He made some remarkable saves for Stoke and generally we looked solid at the back when he was in goal. He was a great keeper I have no doubt. I think it has been blurred by the fact the -he wasn't the most popular in the camp (apparently) -general dislike of him (yes he is annoying but so are a lot of footballers!) -the fact that he came in for the popular local lad John Farmer (who was a good keeper, but prone to some very poor decision making at key times in games, and maybe other stuff going on there) -the idea that we should have bought a centre forward instead (we could have bought both tbh and very nearly did with Osgood) I feel his apparent 'failure' here has been totally over-exaggerated. That's my take. Couldn’t agree more - Shilton’s ‘crapiness’ is a complete distortion of history. He was in fact pretty good but because the team was in something of a decline people just used him as a convenient but undeserving scapegoat.
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Post by claymore on Jan 15, 2021 9:40:45 GMT
Enjoyed that It just makes you realise what a bunch of overpaid pussies the modern day footballer is There’s no way in hell they’d play on pitches like that I absolutely love this programme, the kits, the players, the grounds, the pitches, the crowds, it's just a joy to wallow in the nostalgia of when football was so worth watching and so enjoyable to behold, almost the polar opposite of the abject boredom of the modern game, I would honestly go back there in a heartbeat.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 15, 2021 10:49:04 GMT
Enjoyed that It just makes you realise what a bunch of overpaid pussies the modern day footballer is There’s no way in hell they’d play on pitches like that I absolutely love this programme, the kits, the players, the grounds, the pitches, the crowds, it's just a joy to wallow in the nostalgia of when football was so worth watching and so enjoyable to behold, almost the polar opposite of the abject boredom of the modern game, I would honestly go back there in a heartbeat. This ^^
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Post by werrington on Jan 15, 2021 10:56:07 GMT
Enjoyed that It just makes you realise what a bunch of overpaid pussies the modern day footballer is There’s no way in hell they’d play on pitches like that I absolutely love this programme, the kits, the players, the grounds, the pitches, the crowds, it's just a joy to wallow in the nostalgia of when football was so worth watching and so enjoyable to behold, almost the polar opposite of the abject boredom of the modern game, I would honestly go back there in a heartbeat. Its called being young and no football overkill on the tv mate There were some shit games back then just as there are today, you are only seeing the good tv ones not the mind numbing ones Nostalgia eh
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 15, 2021 13:36:36 GMT
Yes in the 60s/70's home fans used to applaud goals by opposition teams if they were good goals. It was part of football culture I remember applauding Glen Hoddle's debut goal Watch Newcastle fans applaud John Mahoney's goal for Stoke on St.James Park....many, many examples on youtube It died out by the 80s The myth that Shilton was crap for Stoke is a bit annoying to me, as someone who saw the majority of his games. He made some remarkable saves for Stoke and generally we looked solid at the back when he was in goal. He was a great keeper I have no doubt. I think it has been blurred by the fact the -he wasn't the most popular in the camp (apparently) -general dislike of him (yes he is annoying but so are a lot of footballers!) -the fact that he came in for the popular local lad John Farmer (who was a good keeper, but prone to some very poor decision making at key times in games, and maybe other stuff going on there) -the idea that we should have bought a centre forward instead (we could have bought both tbh and very nearly did with Osgood) I feel his apparent 'failure' here has been totally over-exaggerated. That's my take. Couldn’t agree more - Shilton’s ‘crapiness’ is a complete distortion of history. He was in fact pretty good but because the team was in something of a decline people just used him as a convenient but undeserving scapegoat. Haven't some of our players said, if Farmer had been our keeper, we could have won the League?
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 15, 2021 13:50:22 GMT
Couldn’t agree more - Shilton’s ‘crapiness’ is a complete distortion of history. He was in fact pretty good but because the team was in something of a decline people just used him as a convenient but undeserving scapegoat. Haven't some of our players said, if Farmer had been our keeper, we could have won the League? I believe so. I don't in any way suggest to be better informed than them of course, but I think it is a very big IF. We will never know I guess and they may be right. If it wasn't for the stand blowing down we could have been discussing a very different history as well. A lot of players didn't like Shilton as a person that is quite clear(I trust their judgement on that one!) and they probably felt more relaxed with Farmer around. I think it was incidents like this (6.15) that persuaded Waddo to look at other options. I used to love John Farmer, and he made some wonderful saves too, but there was the feeling he was prone to these kind of errors in big moments. Also, if Farmer was such a great keeper why did his career suddenly stop at the age of 26? Shilton simply wasn't as bad as people make out though. In fact, he was a bloody good keeper.
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Post by werrington on Jan 15, 2021 14:04:17 GMT
Haven't some of our players said, if Farmer had been our keeper, we could have won the League? I believe so. I don't in any way suggest to be better informed than them of course, but I think it is a very big IF. We will never know I guess and they may be right. If it wasn't for the stand blowing down we could have been discussing a very different history as well. A lot of players didn't like Shilton as a person that is quite clear(I trust their judgement on that one!) and they probably felt more relaxed with Farmer around. I think it was incidents like this (6.15) that persuaded Waddo to look at other options. I used to love John Farmer, and he made some wonderful saves too, but there was the feeling he was prone to these kind of errors in big moments. Also, if Farmer was such a great keeper why did his career suddenly stop at the age of 26? Shilton simply wasn't as bad as people make out though. In fact, he was a bloody good keeper. Loved that strip combination .....I had it for Christmas 😊
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 15, 2021 14:21:30 GMT
Haven't some of our players said, if Farmer had been our keeper, we could have won the League? I believe so. I don't in any way suggest to be better informed than them of course, but I think it is a very big IF. We will never know I guess and they may be right. If it wasn't for the stand blowing down we could have been discussing a very different history as well. A lot of players didn't like Shilton as a person that is quite clear(I trust their judgement on that one!) and they probably felt more relaxed with Farmer around. I think it was incidents like this (6.15) that persuaded Waddo to look at other options. I used to love John Farmer, and he made some wonderful saves too, but there was the feeling he was prone to these kind of errors in big moments. Also, if Farmer was such a great keeper why did his career suddenly stop at the age of 26? Shilton simply wasn't as bad as people make out though. In fact, he was a bloody good keeper. I’d forget how far Ian Hutchinson threw the ball😮I used to get reminded by my Grandad that Hutchinson was a Derby lad on a regular basis 😄Some top players on that pitch
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 15, 2021 14:25:02 GMT
Another game here from 1976
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Post by werrington on Jan 15, 2021 14:32:01 GMT
Another game here from 1976 I struggle to remember games from last season but i remember all these matches.....I can still see myself bottom left of the boothen end watching these goals go in Garth crooks 👏👏👏 Garth crooks 👏👏👏
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 15, 2021 14:38:59 GMT
Haven't some of our players said, if Farmer had been our keeper, we could have won the League? I believe so. I don't in any way suggest to be better informed than them of course, but I think it is a very big IF. We will never know I guess and they may be right. If it wasn't for the stand blowing down we could have been discussing a very different history as well. A lot of players didn't like Shilton as a person that is quite clear(I trust their judgement on that one!) and they probably felt more relaxed with Farmer around. I think it was incidents like this (6.15) that persuaded Waddo to look at other options. I used to love John Farmer, and he made some wonderful saves too, but there was the feeling he was prone to these kind of errors in big moments. Also, if Farmer was such a great keeper why did his career suddenly stop at the age of 26? Shilton simply wasn't as bad as people make out though. In fact, he was a bloody good keeper. I can confirm from chatting to one player from that legendary era that to say Mr Shilton was unpopular in the camp was somewhat of an understatement! I thought his view was pretty extreme but it paled into insignificance compared to his feelings about Durban!
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 15, 2021 14:46:25 GMT
I believe so. I don't in any way suggest to be better informed than them of course, but I think it is a very big IF. We will never know I guess and they may be right. If it wasn't for the stand blowing down we could have been discussing a very different history as well. A lot of players didn't like Shilton as a person that is quite clear(I trust their judgement on that one!) and they probably felt more relaxed with Farmer around. I think it was incidents like this (6.15) that persuaded Waddo to look at other options. I used to love John Farmer, and he made some wonderful saves too, but there was the feeling he was prone to these kind of errors in big moments. Also, if Farmer was such a great keeper why did his career suddenly stop at the age of 26? Shilton simply wasn't as bad as people make out though. In fact, he was a bloody good keeper. I can confirm from chatting to one player from that legendary era that to say Mr Shilton was unpopular in the camp was somewhat of an understatement! I thought his view was pretty extreme but it paled into insignificance compared to his feelings about Durban! Alan Dodd by any chance?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 15, 2021 17:06:26 GMT
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Post by tnbiscuitswithtone on Jan 16, 2021 11:42:43 GMT
Just watched it derby 1 Stoke 2
Magic words, Greenhough, Hudson. God we were good
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 16, 2021 12:00:01 GMT
I believe so. I don't in any way suggest to be better informed than them of course, but I think it is a very big IF. We will never know I guess and they may be right. If it wasn't for the stand blowing down we could have been discussing a very different history as well. A lot of players didn't like Shilton as a person that is quite clear(I trust their judgement on that one!) and they probably felt more relaxed with Farmer around. I think it was incidents like this (6.15) that persuaded Waddo to look at other options. I used to love John Farmer, and he made some wonderful saves too, but there was the feeling he was prone to these kind of errors in big moments. Also, if Farmer was such a great keeper why did his career suddenly stop at the age of 26? Shilton simply wasn't as bad as people make out though. In fact, he was a bloody good keeper. I can confirm from chatting to one player from that legendary era that to say Mr Shilton was unpopular in the camp was somewhat of an understatement! I thought his view was pretty extreme but it paled into insignificance compared to his feelings about Durban! I can well believe that!
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 16, 2021 12:07:36 GMT
Another game here from 1976 I struggle to remember games from last season but i remember all these matches.....I can still see myself bottom left of the boothen end watching these goals go in Garth crooks 👏👏👏 Garth crooks 👏👏👏 Wow!....That goal meant so much to Garth Crooks.... Crikey, we had some bloody top players in that team then....have to pinch myself really Huddy, Greenhoff, Pejic, Dodd, Shilton, Conroy, Mahoney, Crooks, Marsh etc They were all bloody good footballers. Magic! Some wonderful moments. Loved Hugh Johns too.....my favourite commentator of all time....he used to purr over our style of play.
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Post by claymore on Jan 16, 2021 12:33:02 GMT
Just watched it derby 1 Stoke 2 Magic words, Greenhough, Hudson. God we were good Just watched it too, that was beautiful, I could watch that all day, it reminds me how I fell in love with football, just everything about it is wonderful, even the pitches which look like mini WW1 battlefields add to the excitement of the game, give me this any day over the sterile boring shite of today, as I said previously, without one shadow of doubt I would go back there in a heartbeat, the football, the kits, the players, old stadiums, the supporters, just everything is simply perfect, I can almost smell the stadiums on matchday.
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Post by kentpotter on Jan 16, 2021 14:41:57 GMT
Just watched it derby 1 Stoke 2 Magic words, Greenhough, Hudson. God we were good The Holy Trinity in that commentary was "Hudson, Salmons, Greenhoff"!!! Had forgotten Hurst missing that sitter and just HOW dreadful that pitch was 😳😳😳
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 16:50:10 GMT
Just watched it derby 1 Stoke 2 Magic words, Greenhough, Hudson. God we were good Just watched it too, that was beautiful, I could watch that all day, it reminds me how I fell in love with football, just everything about it is wonderful, even the pitches which look like mini WW1 battlefields add to the excitement of the game, give me this any day over the sterile boring shite of today, as I said previously, without one shadow of doubt I would go back there in a heartbeat, the football, the kits, the players, old stadiums, the supporters, just everything is simply perfect, I can almost smell the stadiums on matchday. You forget the main reason why you look back at those times so fondly...... You were young.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jan 25, 2021 15:47:18 GMT
Arsenal v Stoke City March 1975, on this weeks Big Match Revisited (30th Jan). A game I don’t think I’ve seen before. Get yer bog rolls out and smash up the Little Chef on the way home 😁
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Post by conzdad on Jan 25, 2021 18:06:32 GMT
Enjoyed watching them.looking for myself in the Boothen End,the pitches,showing my son just how good Hudson was and what an absolute joy it was watching him. The downside to these programmes was the music and Brian Moore,could'nt stand him.
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Post by claymore on Jan 26, 2021 13:43:20 GMT
Enjoyed watching them.looking for myself in the Boothen End,the pitches,showing my son just how good Hudson was and what an absolute joy it was watching him. The downside to these programmes was the music and Brian Moore,could'nt stand him. I really like the music, it sums up the excitement of the football at the time, as for the great Brian Moore, he as with all commentators of that era was pure class, and literally makes the piss poor versions of the modern game look just like the shower of sh1t that they most certainly are.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 26, 2021 13:45:51 GMT
Brian Moore "Aaaand it's in there".
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Post by claymore on Jan 26, 2021 13:51:50 GMT
Brian Moore "Aaaand it's in there". Tyler and all the other useless boring wankers could learn a hell of a lot from the likes of Brian Moore, Hugh Johns, Kenneth Wolstenholme, and Gerald Sinstadt, proper footy commentators doing it right in an elegant yet understated manner, superb they were, and they kept it interesting and to the point, no stupid superfluous waffle and bollox.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 29, 2021 18:41:53 GMT
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Post by logdog on Jan 29, 2021 19:08:32 GMT
Whatever happened to our beautiful game of nogger???😢😢😢💰💰💰😈😈😈
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Post by meirman61 on Jan 29, 2021 21:13:23 GMT
Whatever happened to our beautiful game of nogger???😢😢😢💰💰💰😈😈😈 We got old
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 29, 2021 23:30:36 GMT
Whatever happened to our beautiful game of nogger???😢😢😢💰💰💰😈😈😈 We got old yep, bloody miss those days
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Post by wrighter on Jan 30, 2021 10:33:07 GMT
on now !!!! STOKE v arsenal 1975 playing in yellow/blue. Huddy skipping thro the mud
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 30, 2021 10:43:49 GMT
Hate that bloody Peter Storey.
Would not last five mins on the pitch today.
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