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Post by thehoof on Oct 17, 2020 16:53:44 GMT
8, shocking first half, actually went for it second half, good result against a team that have started well. This 100%
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Post by StatesideStokie on Oct 17, 2020 16:54:09 GMT
8 for me.
Defensively we were pretty solid, but that first half was absolute garbage. Second half we showed plenty of improvement, but we still look disjointed and not quite right in midfield or going forward. A steady 7, with an extra added point for beating Jones so we didn’t have to watch him spazzing out at full time.
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Post by aloha63 on Oct 17, 2020 16:58:39 GMT
8 -
A clean sheet. Away win. Scored a brace, the season's definitely shaping up. Didn't watch, doesn't sound a great performance, but a win is a win - specially away. Great to get one over old mad eyes.
MoN's half time words must have had effect and a galvanised Powell is what we want.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 17, 2020 17:03:27 GMT
6 Still don’t think the formation is anything to shout about. But a good win. You are obsessed with tactics. 6/10 for an easy away win? Get a grip. Why wouldn’t you be obsessed with tactics? We were rancid in that first half. Second was better but we have to be more positive. We have so many good attacking options and we have to let them play.
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 17, 2020 17:05:54 GMT
You are obsessed with tactics. 6/10 for an easy away win? Get a grip. Why wouldn’t you be obsessed with tactics? We were rancid in that first half. Second was better but we have to be more positive. We have so many good attacking options and we have to let them play. It’s not a game of football manager on your Xbox. Get real and get a grip of the reality of where this team and football club is at the moment. I’ll repeat what I told you a few weeks ago. You, and a few others on here don’t deserve a good manager in charge of our club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 17, 2020 17:11:42 GMT
Why wouldn’t you be obsessed with tactics? We were rancid in that first half. Second was better but we have to be more positive. We have so many good attacking options and we have to let them play. It’s not a game of football manager on your Xbox. Get real and get a grip of the reality of where this team and football club is at the moment. I’ll repeat what I told you a few weeks ago. You, and a few others on here don’t deserve a good manager in charge of our club. Who plays football manager on their Xbox? I have, we have 3/4 players who between them should be scoring 70 goals this season. From that I make a play off push a goer. And no we deserve a manager who doesn’t shit himself. Hopefully MON will unleash that like he did in the second half.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Oct 17, 2020 17:14:52 GMT
So 0 -0 after 45 mins away against a form team is rancid ? How would you have described the team you 'support' if they had conceded? It was a comfortable away win, with a clean sheet, against a form team whilst playing and developing youth players. Marking a 6 for that says lots about you and nothing about the club, manager or team. You are obsessed with tactics. 6/10 for an easy away win? Get a grip. Why wouldn’t you be obsessed with tactics? We were rancid in that first half. Second was better but we have to be more positive. We have so many good attacking options and we have to let them play.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 17, 2020 17:16:50 GMT
So 0 -0 after 45 mins away against a form team is rancid ? How would you have described the team you 'support' if they had conceded? It was a comfortable away win, with a clean sheet, against a form team whilst playing and developing youth players. Marking a 6 for that says lots about you and nothing about the club, manager or team. Why wouldn’t you be obsessed with tactics? We were rancid in that first half. Second was better but we have to be more positive. We have so many good attacking options and we have to let them play. Did you watch it? It was an awful half of football where we lucky not be one down at least. Don’t let the end result cloud the view of that first half. The second half for half an hour was really good.
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Post by christhepotter on Oct 17, 2020 17:18:31 GMT
7. He needs to realise the formation and tactics aren’t good enough , Luton are a poor team , we will struggle against better A poor team with 9 points from their first 4 games.... You obviously didn’t watch today then they look shite
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Oct 17, 2020 17:30:50 GMT
I'm just not sure what you expect from a game of football? and how after making football part of you life for so long you have such unrealistic expectations. A point away from home is more than a fair result, 3 points is a bloody good result even if the manner of the result wasn't what you would have liked. Developing a habit of clean sheets is also bloody useful. Ok the style of play isn't what you would want, but bloody well give credit where its due. So 0 -0 after 45 mins away against a form team is rancid ? How would you have described the team you 'support' if they had conceded? It was a comfortable away win, with a clean sheet, against a form team whilst playing and developing youth players. Marking a 6 for that says lots about you and nothing about the club, manager or team. Did you watch it? It was an awful half of football where we lucky not be one down at least. Don’t let the end result cloud the view of that first half. The second half for half an hour was really good.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 17, 2020 17:33:34 GMT
I'm just not sure what you expect from a game of football? and how after making football part of you life for so long you have such unrealistic expectations. A point away from home is more than a fair result, 3 points is a bloody good result even if the manner of the result wasn't what you would have liked. Developing a habit of clean sheets is also bloody useful. Ok the style of play isn't what you would want, but bloody well give credit where its due. Did you watch it? It was an awful half of football where we lucky not be one down at least. Don’t let the end result cloud the view of that first half. The second half for half an hour was really good. Why is expecting us to attack against a shit side unrealistic? I have. He got a 6, an above average mark 😂
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 17, 2020 17:40:12 GMT
I'm just not sure what you expect from a game of football? and how after making football part of you life for so long you have such unrealistic expectations. A point away from home is more than a fair result, 3 points is a bloody good result even if the manner of the result wasn't what you would have liked. Developing a habit of clean sheets is also bloody useful. Ok the style of play isn't what you would want, but bloody well give credit where its due. Did you watch it? It was an awful half of football where we lucky not be one down at least. Don’t let the end result cloud the view of that first half. The second half for half an hour was really good. He seems to expect robotic perfection. From a championship team.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Oct 17, 2020 17:42:22 GMT
Luton are currently a form side that started the season well. Also its incredibly rare that away win come from sides attacking for 90 mins, but a tight spell. Then open up get your goals, then shut the game down, is usually how its done. I think a 6 would be appropriate if he had come away with a point after a 2nd half like the first. I think you think we should play like we are Liverpool or Barcelona. I'm just not sure what you expect from a game of football? and how after making football part of you life for so long you have such unrealistic expectations. A point away from home is more than a fair result, 3 points is a bloody good result even if the manner of the result wasn't what you would have liked. Developing a habit of clean sheets is also bloody useful. Ok the style of play isn't what you would want, but bloody well give credit where its due. Why is expecting us to attack against a shit side unrealistic? I have. He got a 6, an above average mark 😂
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 17, 2020 18:48:48 GMT
8
Kept to his guns 2nd half and didn’t change it, no doubt told a few to pull their finger out at half time.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 17, 2020 18:50:13 GMT
Mealy mouthed bollocks from fuckwits abound. Clear 10. This.
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Post by Gunslinger on Oct 17, 2020 19:03:39 GMT
6 for the first half and 8 for the second. That‘s an average of 7 + 1 for beating NJ. 8 in total.
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Post by skip on Oct 17, 2020 22:53:39 GMT
Two nil away win against a side unbeaten at home with the added pressure or opportunity to put one over on a former manager. It could have gone badly wrong.
The first half was dreadful footy we went in at half time all square and bossed the second half.
What's not to like?
9.
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Post by hotterpotter on Oct 18, 2020 8:19:56 GMT
You have a right to sate your negative 'look at me' opinions. We have the right to shake ours heads and think 'What a Bellend'. 6 Still don’t think the formation is anything to shout about. But a good win. Whatever you think of a poster is it right to call them a bellend for merely expressing their opinion?
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Oct 18, 2020 8:31:29 GMT
For an occasional post that's off it would be really harsh. But in response to a wall of offall, that bring's the board and mood down at every opportunity I don't feel that guilty. I can be a difficult and obtuse person myself, but he turns into into an artform. My regret is I feed the troll with attention he obviously craves. You have a right to sate your negative 'look at me' opinions. We have the right to shake ours heads and think 'What a Bellend'. Whatever you think of a poster is it right to call them a bellend for merely expressing their opinion?
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Post by hotterpotter on Oct 18, 2020 8:43:10 GMT
For an occasional post that's off it would be really harsh. But in response to a wall of offall, that bring's the board and mood down at every opportunity I don't feel that guilty. I can be a difficult and obtuse person myself, but he turns into into an artform. My regret is I feed the troll with attention he obviously craves. Whatever you think of a poster is it right to call them a bellend for merely expressing their opinion? I still think each post should be taken on its individual content. In this case I didn't think "I don't like the formation but a good result" warranted the abuse.
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Post by lancer on Oct 18, 2020 8:51:44 GMT
Picked the right team as their second half game proved. He can only pick them, and once they cross the line it's up to them.10.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 18, 2020 9:01:22 GMT
For an occasional post that's off it would be really harsh. But in response to a wall of offall, that bring's the board and mood down at every opportunity I don't feel that guilty. I can be a difficult and obtuse person myself, but he turns into into an artform. My regret is I feed the troll with attention he obviously craves. I still think each post should be taken on its individual content. In this case I didn't think "I don't like the formation but a good result" warranted the abuse. But he'd be abusing the Stoke City staff who have no right to reply if we'd have lost. The backslapping him and his mates were doing BEFORE the game on another shit performance and resuit.
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 18, 2020 9:08:47 GMT
With the reported injuries I don't think there was any choice in going 3 at the back and the 343 is our most balanced and less defensive. Can't grumble at anything really good selections, good at half time. Great result 10. Would like to see him rest Clucas next match mind.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 18, 2020 9:18:22 GMT
I like a 343 formation - it is more attacking than 532 or 352. My only complaint was that it took until half time to persuade the players how to make the system work properly. It was as if we hadn't practiced it on the training pitch. Once he had given them a pap pep talk (or a bollocking!) at half time we looked much better and the formation worked as it should.
The subs were mostly to cope with injuries so I am not surprised we came under pressure late on in the game. I wish Thompson had been brought on for Clucas early in the second half.
So, a solid 8 from me - he'd have got a higher mark if he had managed to get the players to play the system properly in the first half.
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 18, 2020 10:04:33 GMT
I like a 343 formation - it is more attacking than 532 or 352. My only complaint was that it took until half time to persuade the players how to make the system work properly. It was as if we hadn't practiced it on the training pitch. Once he had given them a pap talk (or a bollocking!) at half time we looked much better and the formation worked as it should. The subs were mostly to cope with injuries so I am not surprised we came under pressure late on in the game. I wish Thompson had been brought on for Clucas early in the second half. So, a solid 8 from me - he'd have got a higher mark if he had managed to get the players to play the system properly in the first half. A 'pap talk'! Really, John! I'm assuming then that MON took along a large tin of baby formula to boost that large bunch of babies. I know some people hate Jones but since he returned to Luton he's done very well. It was definitely a game that could have gone against us given that they had already won 3 from 4. And we were in their backyard. Michael O'Neil is moulding a side that's hard to beat, which is the first step to creating a successful side. All teams ride their luck just as we did and then we had a defence that performed superbly. Campbell's impressive skills were instrumental in creating those two quick second half goals and from then on it was up to the team to defend their lead and try to create a few chances on the break to seal the win completely. We did that and should have won by a larger margin. The manager's decision to bring in Davies to replace Butland has been inspirational and Davies has repayed the boss big style. So, thanks to our brilliant manager I'm having a great weekend and I'm awarding him a good 9. In part that's because I know that had we lost, this 'rate the manager' post would have been full of zeros. Carry on Michael. You're doing great. OS.
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Post by gawa on Oct 18, 2020 10:37:53 GMT
First Half - -4
We came out of the first half still drawing with an in form team in the league. There was no Messi in the starting lineup either.
Embarrassing.
Second Half - 1
Team came out and got 2 early goals but then did nothing else for the next half hour, get a point for winning the half but we should really be winning these games 43-0 a half.
If Nathan Jones or Rowett were still here we would have 62 points on the table already.
Overall - 0.02
Just trying to look at the game from a different perspective so got my Bayern/alberttaddock hat on.
Guacamole 🥑
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Post by lordb on Oct 18, 2020 10:52:42 GMT
You are obsessed with tactics. 6/10 for an easy away win? Get a grip. Why wouldn’t you be obsessed with tactics? We were rancid in that first half. Second was better but we have to be more positive. We have so many good attacking options and we have to let them play. Hardly a fundamental shift in tactic one half to the other All about putting our foot on the gas. Formation doesn't come into that
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Post by march4 on Oct 18, 2020 10:58:08 GMT
Played exceptionally well for the first 20 mins of the second half and that won us the game.
First half we were poor and midfield non- existent. We were carrying passengers.
Last quarter of the game we were indebted to our keeper for maintaining our clean sheet.
Overall, we continue to improve as the new players gel and the signs are promising.
7/10 for our manager
0/10 for Luton’s manager.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2020 11:25:54 GMT
Why wouldn’t you be obsessed with tactics? We were rancid in that first half. Second was better but we have to be more positive. We have so many good attacking options and we have to let them play. Hardly a fundamental shift in tactic one half to the other All about putting our foot on the gas. Formation doesn't come into that Yes the intent changed which was good to see. But it’s a generally negative tactic with the players we have for it. Smith I thought was appalling yesterday and Tymon was a mirror image of his usual game there which I won’t have a go at him for because it’s good to see him being solid defensively.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 18, 2020 11:48:11 GMT
A solid 8. Would have been more, but for a poor 1st. half.
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