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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 26, 2020 17:11:27 GMT
In haste, complicated day here (!) - that was just such an important win, so many things done right that we'd have messed up a year ago. Without playing that well, we converted the dominance (which we may well have had with 11 of them on the pitch), having got the lead we held onto it, clean sheet, 3 away points - and all that after a not great league performance last time out. Proper good management Mick.
9 from me
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2020 17:12:37 GMT
6, the system still doesn't work, looked awful until the ref felt sorry for us but fair play for playing a couple of the younger lads.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 26, 2020 17:13:21 GMT
We won but not a great performance
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 17:15:47 GMT
6.
A regulation victory made so so harder by the refusal to switch from the ultra negative 5 at the back against pretty much 1 striker.
PNE eventually changed their wingbacks but Scott Sinclair was there for the taking long before he was hooked. Shifting to two wide men should have been the half time switch.
I know why the manager is doing it, the clean sheets and yes it's working from that point of view but the cold hard facts are we had the same amount of corners and shots as a team that played three quarters of the game with ten men.
Please look at it Michael.
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Post by blackpoolred on Sept 26, 2020 17:16:42 GMT
Praise and a lot of grumble from me even though I am a big fan:
Soon as they were down to ten men, we noticeably started passing the ball better and stretching play passing the ball from flank to flank - top marks for that – exactly what you should do against 10 men - but after that, I am struggling.
We created very little in the way of clear cut chances to say we were playing against 10 men, the only real genuine goal scorer we have is Campbell and he left him on the bench for 90 mins at a time where his pace and goal-scoring abilities would surely have been to our advantage - is he now really our 3rd choice in a team with little goal threat?
Should have made subs earlier, Fletcher not quite fit enough, TOB legs had gone and had to wait for him to collapse in a heap before changing him - and to then bring on Thompson was negative, but I could kind of understand it(try to keep the ball).
For the short time it was 11 v 11 we were losing every 50/50 and the aerial battle and looked a matter of time before Preston scored for me.
Preston heads dropped when they went down to 10 and when we scored I thought unless we give away stupid set pieces they are just no threat with their loan striker upfront. But stupid set pieces we kept giving away and we ended up hanging on in the end with arguably our goalkeeper being MOTM.
Gets a 5 because we ended up winning but nowhere near positive enough against 10 men – and a real lack of any goal threat again.
If you would have said to me I would be giving the manager 5/10 after a 1-0 away win at PNE, I would not have believed you. However, if I was him I would have been doing a Fergie and throwing teacups at the end of that game.
By the way could somebody please check if Clucas has Preston ties, that is as bad a performance I have seen from a professional footballer – he was feckin shocking – another player who was one of our saviours last year who seems to have gone missing.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 26, 2020 17:32:59 GMT
6, we got a win which looked highly unlikely until they went down to 10 men!!!
I was hoping he may go to a 4-2-3-1 formation and really take the game to them, with Preston playing with only one forward!!! 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 26, 2020 17:36:32 GMT
8 A win away from home in the championship is nothing to be sniffed at and another solid performance.The system is making us not as fluent going forward but as he says himself it needs working on offensively
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 17:36:49 GMT
5 despite the win.
Seemed a bit empty and you only need to read the above to see what the feeling is.
Clucas is not captain material in any universe.
Good to see Souttar in.*
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 26, 2020 17:38:53 GMT
10 for not wearing those awful looking training suits.
Proved right with Gregory, O-Booth, and Soutter, but it says a lot about the performance when Davies was MOTM by Radio Stoke.
He had the nerve to drop Powell, hope he now has the nerve to drop Clucas, who played like a prat.
Can't blame MON for some poor finishing.
I'm one of the few who think he should stick to his system and slowly introduce young players with some pace.
The understanding is still poor between the players which needs sorting.
Seriously a 7 from me, mainly because of the result.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2020 17:39:28 GMT
8 A win away from home in the championship is nothing to be sniffed at and another solid performance.The system is making us not as fluent going forward but as he says himself it needs working on offensively It needs scrapping. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 26, 2020 17:40:31 GMT
8 A win away from home in the championship is nothing to be sniffed at and another solid performance.The system is making us not as fluent going forward but as he says himself it needs working on offensively It needs scrapping. Not a hope in hell he’ll scrap it in away games |
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Post by chad on Sept 26, 2020 17:44:12 GMT
5 great result but I’m not convinced we’d have got anything if they weren’t down to ten men
In spite of the goal I don’t think Gregory should be in the first eleven. Much prefer to see Campbell and Fletcher given an extended run
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 26, 2020 17:51:39 GMT
5 A game we were going to lose if they had not gone down to 10 men. Dominant second half but very poor in front of goal which over the season will cost us dearly. MON still has lots to do if we are to challenge for a top six place.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 26, 2020 18:02:30 GMT
8 because he played the some youth and got the win
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Post by march4 on Sept 26, 2020 18:04:39 GMT
5.
Uninspiring win against a team on a terrible run of form. Add to that they were down to 10 men for 70 mins and we were hanging on at the end.
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 26, 2020 18:07:44 GMT
6 for the win and only 6 because the lack of goals and shaky defending in the last 10 minutes made me feel unnecessarily uncomfortable 😁
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 26, 2020 18:18:16 GMT
5 it was a poor performance against ten men
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2020 18:34:02 GMT
Not a hope in hell he’ll scrap it in away games I don't think he'll scrap it either way tbh, its going to hold us back long term its puzzling he thinks its whats suited to the players he has. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 26, 2020 18:49:56 GMT
6 from me negative against 10 men, we could have changed the system but he's insistent we keep trying it. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 19:30:17 GMT
7. A good win away from home is never to be sniffed at. However yes he scored but Fletcher should be starting alongside campbell. To leave our most gifted striker out again is poor. Also Chester is a liability, and for me after that midweek performance Tymon and Thompson deserved to start.
In saying that we won thank god, last season I think even with 10 men Preston would have beaten us
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Post by fca47 on Sept 26, 2020 19:39:42 GMT
6 - started off Ok , but by the time of the Red card, completely overrun. Midfield just ain't good enough.
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Post by jarhead on Sept 26, 2020 20:09:20 GMT
Don’t know
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Post by houstonsteve on Sept 26, 2020 20:13:45 GMT
6 for the win. 3 for everything else. And I think MON is awesome but he needs a rethink on how he is setting us up. When we are top after 10 games I will shut up (he knows more than we do).
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Post by cdlstoke on Sept 26, 2020 20:22:27 GMT
5 for the win. Thank god we can’t go watch the dross in person. Im struggling to watch it from home.
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Post by thehoof on Sept 26, 2020 20:28:53 GMT
6. A regulation victory made so so harder by the refusal to switch from the ultra negative 5 at the back against pretty much 1 striker. PNE eventually changed their wingbacks but Scott Sinclair was there for the taking long before he was hooked. Shifting to two wide men should have been the half time switch. I know why the manager is doing it, the clean sheets and yes it's working from that point of view but the cold hard facts are we had the same amount of corners and shots as a team that played three quarters of the game with ten men. Please look at it Michael. Totally agree. |
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Post by Royal Donut on Sept 26, 2020 20:30:30 GMT
7 not the best performance but started some young players and got the win.
I think we are finding who the bad players are at the moment rather than the better ones,with time MON is the man for the job but its nice to pick up points along the way.
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Post by aloha63 on Sept 27, 2020 7:49:02 GMT
A puzzled 7.5
We got an away win, results game, three points.
Puzzled by selection, Souttar played - tick,
but all our pace left sitting on the bench. Why?
Only partially brought on late, genuinely puzzled.
No Cambell ?
I trust Mon to sort it - as we're still shaping up.
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Post by zerps on Sept 27, 2020 7:58:18 GMT
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I’m happy to set up like that away from home and try and keep clean sheets.
But only if we try and murder teams at home
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Post by walton corner on Sept 27, 2020 8:39:48 GMT
Please stop this away from home shit ......with no fans in attendance..playing away makes no difference..no fans to sway refs decisions etc .....it’s like playing on a neutral venue .....for your info several top managers have said the same .......when fans are back will be different
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 27, 2020 8:56:55 GMT
Please stop this away from home shit ...... with no fans in attendance..playing away makes no difference..no fans to sway refs decisions etc .....it’s like playing on a neutral venue .....for your info several top managers have said the same .......when fans are back will be different Are there any stats to confirm that playing home or away makes no difference in the absence of fans? It seems logical but is it true? If you are correct then, by the end of the season, there should be as many home wins as away wins in each league - or near enough. If so, you'd expect this to be already showing up in the stats for the games in the Premier League and the Championship since playing behind closed doors resumed in June. |
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