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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 17, 2021 7:54:03 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9694443/amp/They-vilified-GB-News-GUY-ADAMS-reveals-hatred-Stop-Funding-Hate-fanatics.html?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIAInteresting article by the Mail, not that I would ever usually go there for morning reading. Would appear that Stop Funding Hate is more a political movement than actually aimed at stopping News organisations profiteering out of 'hate' and some of the individuals using the hashtag on Twitter are rather ropey characters. This is similar to Hope Not Hate isn't it? Remember when it turned out their tactic against people they don't like was to accuse them of being paedophiles? I've watched GB News and I agree that it's mostly nonsense. The marginalised voices shtick will wear thin very quickly and 24/7 opinion pieces doesn't count as news for me. Furthermore, I fail to see how GB News can be unbiased without being biased themselves. I don't disagree that there is a bias in the mainstream media, but I think that's expected which is why it should be OK for an alternative news channel to exist. We're running a very dangerous line here. That article may as well be titled There Are Some Twats On Twitter. Of course GB News has the right to exist, as much as these people have the right to try and pressurise sponsors into not advertising on GB News. I'm sure things will settle down soon, and we'll see if it's successful or not.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 17, 2021 7:55:08 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9694443/amp/They-vilified-GB-News-GUY-ADAMS-reveals-hatred-Stop-Funding-Hate-fanatics.html?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIAInteresting article by the Mail, not that I would ever usually go there for morning reading. Would appear that Stop Funding Hate is more a political movement than actually aimed at stopping News organisations profiteering out of 'hate' and some of the individuals using the hashtag on Twitter are rather ropey characters. This is similar to Hope Not Hate isn't it? Remember when it turned out their tactic against people they don't like was to accuse them of being paedophiles? I've watched GB News and I agree that it's mostly nonsense. The marginalised voices shtick will wear thin very quickly and 24/7 opinion pieces doesn't count as news for me. Furthermore, I fail to see how GB News can be unbiased without being biased themselves. I don't disagree that there is a bias in the mainstream media, but I think that's expected which is why it should be OK for an alternative news channel to exist. We're running a very dangerous line here. It's the thin edge of the wedge the gobby few trying to force their opinion and values onto the majority. You're right a dangerous way to operate. Yeah but enough about GB News, what do you think about the people trying to pressurise advertisers into withdrawing?
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 17, 2021 8:15:40 GMT
It's the thin edge of the wedge the gobby few trying to force their opinion and values onto the majority. You're right a dangerous way to operate. Yeah but enough about GB News, what do you think about the people trying to pressurise advertisers into withdrawing? Wankers
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Post by franklin on Jun 17, 2021 8:23:14 GMT
It's the thin edge of the wedge the gobby few trying to force their opinion and values onto the majority. You're right a dangerous way to operate. Yeah but enough about GB News, what do you think about the people trying to pressurise advertisers into withdrawing? It's the same thing in my eyes they don't like something and are causing damage to a legitimate company. Unfortunately this has being going in for years many people may remember the "guinea pig farm" in South Staffordshire that was targeted by animal rights activists because they didn't like it. And they harassed staff caused damage and all kinds of nasty stuff going on there. It's the same thing but online rather than in person its online intellectual terrorism.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 17, 2021 8:48:45 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9694443/amp/They-vilified-GB-News-GUY-ADAMS-reveals-hatred-Stop-Funding-Hate-fanatics.html?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIAInteresting article by the Mail, not that I would ever usually go there for morning reading. Would appear that Stop Funding Hate is more a political movement than actually aimed at stopping News organisations profiteering out of 'hate' and some of the individuals using the hashtag on Twitter are rather ropey characters. This is similar to Hope Not Hate isn't it? Remember when it turned out their tactic against people they don't like was to accuse them of being paedophiles? I've watched GB News and I agree that it's mostly nonsense. The marginalised voices shtick will wear thin very quickly and 24/7 opinion pieces doesn't count as news for me. Furthermore, I fail to see how GB News can be unbiased without being biased themselves. I don't disagree that there is a bias in the mainstream media, but I think that's expected which is why it should be OK for an alternative news channel to exist. We're running a very dangerous line here. That article may as well be titled There Are Some Twats On Twitter. Of course GB News has the right to exist, as much as these people have the right to try and pressurise sponsors into not advertising on GB News. I'm sure things will settle down soon, and we'll see if it's successful or not. But the whole aim of this movement is do effectively censor GB News. You are being disingenuous in suggesting these individuals wouldn't shut the channel down if given an opportunity. Be interesting what these lot think of the license fee and BBC.
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Post by desman2 on Jun 17, 2021 8:57:36 GMT
They're totally stupid. All they are doing is giving GB news exactly what they don't want them to have....publicity.
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Post by starkiller on Jun 17, 2021 9:54:38 GMT
At least there's a slight change of emphasis. But unfortunately, there will never be real news while everything is controlled by OFCOM, and that's the bias or restriction most people should be concerned about.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 17, 2021 10:23:46 GMT
Yeah but enough about GB News, what do you think about the people trying to pressurise advertisers into withdrawing? It's the same thing in my eyes they don't like something and are causing damage to a legitimate company. Unfortunately this has being going in for years many people may remember the "guinea pig farm" in South Staffordshire that was targeted by animal rights activists because they didn't like it. And they harassed staff caused damage and all kinds of nasty stuff going on there. It's the same thing but online rather than in person its online intellectual terrorism. I think it's different - the incident in South Staffordshire was vandalism, and would be the equivalent of these people breaking into GB News studios and breaking the equipment that they use to produce the shows. Ultimately it is up to the companies concerned whether they listen to the online noise and cancel their advertising - and I suspect most of the companies will be guided by basic commercial interest. If GB News is wildly successful with a huge audience then these companies will advertise on there once again, of that I'm absolutely sure. For now they probably feel that the PR in cancelling their advertising is worth more good PR than the advertising itself.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 17, 2021 10:26:32 GMT
It's the same thing in my eyes they don't like something and are causing damage to a legitimate company. Unfortunately this has being going in for years many people may remember the "guinea pig farm" in South Staffordshire that was targeted by animal rights activists because they didn't like it. And they harassed staff caused damage and all kinds of nasty stuff going on there. It's the same thing but online rather than in person its online intellectual terrorism. I think it's different - the incident in South Staffordshire was vandalism, and would be the equivalent of these people breaking into GB News studios and breaking the equipment that they use to produce the shows.Ultimately it is up to the companies concerned whether they listen to the online noise and cancel their advertising - and I suspect most of the companies will be guided by basic commercial interest. If GB News is wildly successful with a huge audience then these companies will advertise on there once again, of that I'm absolutely sure. For now they probably feel that the PR in cancelling their advertising is worth more good PR than the advertising itself. They'd be doing them a favour, the equipment doesn't work anyway......
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 17, 2021 10:28:19 GMT
That article may as well be titled There Are Some Twats On Twitter. Of course GB News has the right to exist, as much as these people have the right to try and pressurise sponsors into not advertising on GB News. I'm sure things will settle down soon, and we'll see if it's successful or not. But the whole aim of this movement is do effectively censor GB News. You are being disingenuous in suggesting these individuals wouldn't shut the channel down if given an opportunity. Be interesting what these lot think of the license fee and BBC. I don't think this is censorship - as I've said above, they are not physically ripping GB News off air. Ultimately it will be the people who decide if GB News is successful, as if enough people tune in then advertising will come flooding in.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 17, 2021 10:29:20 GMT
I think it's different - the incident in South Staffordshire was vandalism, and would be the equivalent of these people breaking into GB News studios and breaking the equipment that they use to produce the shows.Ultimately it is up to the companies concerned whether they listen to the online noise and cancel their advertising - and I suspect most of the companies will be guided by basic commercial interest. If GB News is wildly successful with a huge audience then these companies will advertise on there once again, of that I'm absolutely sure. For now they probably feel that the PR in cancelling their advertising is worth more good PR than the advertising itself. They'd be doing them a favour, the equipment doesn't work anyway...... I was going to make a joke about stealing the hamsters off the wheel, but I thought I'd keep it serious.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 17, 2021 10:33:28 GMT
At least there's a slight change of emphasis. But unfortunately, there will never be real news while everything is controlled by OFCOM, and that's the bias or restriction most people should be concerned about. I'm sure OFCOM has problems, but it is the reason that Fox News is not aired in the UK, and it means that GB News has to show a level of balance in it's output.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 17, 2021 10:33:58 GMT
They'd be doing them a favour, the equipment doesn't work anyway...... I was going to make a joke about stealing the hamsters off the wheel, but I thought I'd keep it serious. For anyone one Twitter who likes a laugh there's some pearlers on this account.....
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Post by franklin on Jun 17, 2021 10:37:15 GMT
It's the same thing in my eyes they don't like something and are causing damage to a legitimate company. Unfortunately this has being going in for years many people may remember the "guinea pig farm" in South Staffordshire that was targeted by animal rights activists because they didn't like it. And they harassed staff caused damage and all kinds of nasty stuff going on there. It's the same thing but online rather than in person its online intellectual terrorism. I think it's different - the incident in South Staffordshire was vandalism, and would be the equivalent of these people breaking into GB News studios and breaking the equipment that they use to produce the shows. Ultimately it is up to the companies concerned whether they listen to the online noise and cancel their advertising - and I suspect most of the companies will be guided by basic commercial interest. If GB News is wildly successful with a huge audience then these companies will advertise on there once again, of that I'm absolutely sure. For now they probably feel that the PR in cancelling their advertising is worth more good PR than the advertising itself. Way more than vandalism mate way more sinister and threatening they had to have 24hr security from the police. As with anything on the news I agree with some I disagree with others the difference is I don't resort to actively trying to ruin a company or individual just because I feel like it or I don't like it what it says or does. Breaking a few windows in Canary wharf might be one thing targeting a companies finance and sponsorship to force a change is a dangerous way to campaign for change.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 17, 2021 11:51:07 GMT
It's almost as if GB is run by a bunch of charlatans and amateurs!
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Post by franklin on Jun 17, 2021 12:00:49 GMT
It's almost as if GB is run by a bunch of charlatans and amateurs! I'd have to agree if they want to be taken seriously they need to cut this stuff out. Edit: fake news I retract the above.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 17, 2021 12:14:58 GMT
It's almost as if GB is run by a bunch of charlatans and amateurs! I don't get it, she's clearly got her fingers crossed.
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Post by franklin on Jun 17, 2021 12:18:53 GMT
It's almost as if GB is run by a bunch of charlatans and amateurs! I don't get it, she's clearly got her fingers crossed. Ah good spot I couldn't see that until you pointed it out she has indeed got her fingers crossed. I guess it's more BS to suit....
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 17, 2021 12:30:05 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Jun 17, 2021 12:33:42 GMT
They're totally stupid. All they are doing is giving GB news exactly what they don't want them to have....publicity. Got it in one. Similarly, the best advertisement for the Tories or Brexit is/was people on the opposite side being insulting and belittling. People will dig their heels in.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 17, 2021 12:49:20 GMT
I think it's different - the incident in South Staffordshire was vandalism, and would be the equivalent of these people breaking into GB News studios and breaking the equipment that they use to produce the shows. Ultimately it is up to the companies concerned whether they listen to the online noise and cancel their advertising - and I suspect most of the companies will be guided by basic commercial interest. If GB News is wildly successful with a huge audience then these companies will advertise on there once again, of that I'm absolutely sure. For now they probably feel that the PR in cancelling their advertising is worth more good PR than the advertising itself. Way more than vandalism mate way more sinister and threatening they had to have 24hr security from the police. As with anything on the news I agree with some I disagree with others the difference is I don't resort to actively trying to ruin a company or individual just because I feel like it or I don't like it what it says or does. Breaking a few windows in Canary wharf might be one thing targeting a companies finance and sponsorship to force a change is a dangerous way to campaign for change. I don't find it a particularly 'dangerous' form of protest to be honest - most of them are threatening to boycott shopping at certain shops if they don't pull advertising. People should have the freedom to spend their money where they like, and for whatever cause - regardless of whether I would do it like that, or whether I agree with them. As I've said before, it will come down to how many people agree with them. If a business has the chance to advertise to millions of viewers, and the only risk is losing out on 100 customers then this protest campaign will be dust.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 17, 2021 12:49:29 GMT
But the whole aim of this movement is do effectively censor GB News. You are being disingenuous in suggesting these individuals wouldn't shut the channel down if given an opportunity. Be interesting what these lot think of the license fee and BBC. I don't think this is censorship - as I've said above, they are not physically ripping GB News off air. Ultimately it will be the people who decide if GB News is successful, as if enough people tune in then advertising will come flooding in. I expect based on the way people are behaving, GB News will be a wild success... Which isn't a good thing. It's absolute dross.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 17, 2021 12:50:42 GMT
Incredible stats coming in over the past couple of days. Within just a few days of running GB News is now the most popular news channel in the UK.
The tide is turning. The war on woke is well and truly on.
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Post by franklin on Jun 17, 2021 12:52:04 GMT
Way more than vandalism mate way more sinister and threatening they had to have 24hr security from the police. As with anything on the news I agree with some I disagree with others the difference is I don't resort to actively trying to ruin a company or individual just because I feel like it or I don't like it what it says or does. Breaking a few windows in Canary wharf might be one thing targeting a companies finance and sponsorship to force a change is a dangerous way to campaign for change. I don't find it a particularly 'dangerous' form of protest to be honest - most of them are threatening to boycott shopping at certain shops if they don't pull advertising. People should have the freedom to spend their money where they like, and for whatever cause - regardless of whether I would do it like that, or whether I agree with them. As I've said before, it will come down to how many people agree with them. If a business has the chance to advertise to millions of viewers, and the only risk is losing out on 100 customers then this protest campaign will be dust. That's OK I do you don't, it's how the world works 🤷♂️
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 17, 2021 12:52:53 GMT
I don't think this is censorship - as I've said above, they are not physically ripping GB News off air. Ultimately it will be the people who decide if GB News is successful, as if enough people tune in then advertising will come flooding in. I expect based on the way people are behaving, GB News will be a wild success... Which isn't a good thing. It's absolute dross. Best to wait for a couple of months to see where the ratings are - any company is wildly successful on launch as it's a novelty. Similar to political parties, who immediately poll very high then settle into some sort of consistent level of support. The level of excitement of some people about a new news channel has entertained me though - I can't imagine being so pumped about a news channel in my life. I guess it continues the war on woke though, which ironically is becoming really fucking woke
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 17, 2021 13:02:30 GMT
Incredible stats coming in over the past couple of days. Within just a few days of running GB News is now the most popular news channel in the UK. The tide is turning. The war on woke is well and truly on. That tweet is from the 14th by the way, so not "the last couple of days" Be interested to see how many watched on the first day and then sacked it off because of all the technical problems.......
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 17, 2021 13:16:12 GMT
Incredible stats coming in over the past couple of days. Within just a few days of running GB News is now the most popular news channel in the UK. The tide is turning. The war on woke is well and truly on. That tweet is from the 14th by the way, so not "the last couple of days" Be interested to see how many watched on the first day and then sacked it off because of all the technical problems....... Is that what it's come to. Fine... the past 3 days 😂 I think you'll be surprised when the next figures come out. Most people are not going to stop watching it because of a few glitches. It's the future, like it or not. Why would anyone in their right mind want to watch dull, sterile garbage like bbc news or sky news anymore?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 17, 2021 13:22:33 GMT
That tweet is from the 14th by the way, so not "the last couple of days" Be interested to see how many watched on the first day and then sacked it off because of all the technical problems....... Is that what it's come to. Fine... the past 3 days 😂 I think you'll be surprised when the next figures come out. Most people are not going to stop watching it because of a few glitches. It's the future, like it or not. Why would anyone in their right mind want to watch dull, sterile garbage like bbc news or sky news anymore? It's not come to anything, I don't really watch any of them. The point is that you would imagine viewing figures for the first couple of nights would be high based on it being new, I'd be interested to know if it's gone up or down since that's all. From the bits I've seen the amount of technical glitches, spelling mistakes, lighting issues etc have been plentiful so they're going to have to up their game on that front.....
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 17, 2021 13:27:23 GMT
Is that what it's come to. Fine... the past 3 days 😂 I think you'll be surprised when the next figures come out. Most people are not going to stop watching it because of a few glitches. It's the future, like it or not. Why would anyone in their right mind want to watch dull, sterile garbage like bbc news or sky news anymore? It's not come to anything, I don't really watch any of them. The point is that you would imagine viewing figures for the first couple of nights would be high based on it being new, I'd be interested to know if it's gone up or down since that's all. From the bits I've seen the amount of technical glitches, spelling mistakes, lighting issues etc have been plentiful so they're going to have to up their game on that front..... I would have thought the opposite. Millions of people don't know about the channel yet so with time I suspect many more will tune in. I agree re the glitches, they do need to sort that out and there is no excuse for it given how long they've had to prepare.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 17, 2021 13:58:13 GMT
I don't get it, she's clearly got her fingers crossed. Ah good spot I couldn't see that until you pointed it out she has indeed got her fingers crossed. I guess it's more BS to suit.... Well no, you didn't spot it until it was spotted out to you, as did I. Point still stands about them being amateurs.
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