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Post by thevoid on Sept 13, 2021 18:18:13 GMT
I'm shocked. What with post-Brexit England being a racist hellhole with Nazis rampaging all through the land, you'd expect GB News to have thrived...
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 13, 2021 18:53:06 GMT
What a legacy. When you sell your soul to the devil, always make sure you keep the receipt.
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 13, 2021 18:58:43 GMT
We will see, not really that fussed either way. Just a bit sick of Sky and BBC news TBH Me too i prefer news on 4 or 5 Nowadays. The art of 24 hour news is to make it interesting and have some intelligent debate apart from A N the team were just not good enough, people like Michelle duberry should have been nowhere near it
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Post by werrington on Sept 13, 2021 19:07:44 GMT
Stopped watching the news a few months ago and deleted my apps
They no longer report on the news they report on the version of the news they want you to hear and aren’t even handed or balanced
Written media or tv/radio …..They can all fuck of
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 13, 2021 20:41:09 GMT
It was absolute crap from the start and continues to be so
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 13, 2021 21:34:33 GMT
It was absolute crap from the start and continues to be so It is a bit crap.........but, I have a little bit of respect how they are in some cases really trying to give genuine opposing views to whatever their own narrative is. And also dealing with certain subjects that other comparative media won't touch with a barge pole, I think it is that that might just about keep them afloat. Edit And on top of this there has been a concerted effort to sink their ship before it really got sailing. It makes me wonder WHY? What are they scared of. Surely opposing views are good to keep things in balance?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 14, 2021 12:16:18 GMT
It was absolute crap from the start and continues to be so It is a bit crap.........but, I have a little bit of respect how they are in some cases really trying to give genuine opposing views to whatever their own narrative is. And also dealing with certain subjects that other comparative media won't touch with a barge pole, I think it is that that might just about keep them afloat. Edit And on top of this there has been a concerted effort to sink their ship before it really got sailing. It makes me wonder WHY? What are they scared of. Surely opposing views are good to keep things in balance? Too much of a daft echo chamber to amount to anything really. Think that's why Neil jumped ship. He was no doubt promised it'd have a bit more integrity than that, but obviously not. You wonder how many others must be wondering what this decision might have done for their careers.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 14, 2021 15:34:52 GMT
It is a bit crap.........but, I have a little bit of respect how they are in some cases really trying to give genuine opposing views to whatever their own narrative is. And also dealing with certain subjects that other comparative media won't touch with a barge pole, I think it is that that might just about keep them afloat. Edit And on top of this there has been a concerted effort to sink their ship before it really got sailing. It makes me wonder WHY? What are they scared of. Surely opposing views are good to keep things in balance? Too much of a daft echo chamber to amount to anything really. Think that's why Neil jumped ship. He was no doubt promised it'd have a bit more integrity than that, but obviously not. You wonder how many others must be wondering what this decision might have done for their careers. It's not great but if I am being honest it is better than the completely partisan likes of CNN or Fox in terms of their messaging. They do attempt to show they are open to opposing views. And as I said before they will discuss items that other MSM channels simply avoid. They have to get a bit of credit for that. But ultimately it just seems too amateur. Echo chamber is a bit harsh possibly but I see where you are coming from.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 14, 2021 16:23:02 GMT
Too much of a daft echo chamber to amount to anything really. Think that's why Neil jumped ship. He was no doubt promised it'd have a bit more integrity than that, but obviously not. You wonder how many others must be wondering what this decision might have done for their careers. It's not great but if I am being honest it is better than the completely partisan likes of CNN or Fox in terms of their messaging. They do attempt to show they are open to opposing views. And as I said before they will discuss items that other MSM channels simply avoid. They have to get a bit of credit for that. But ultimately it just seems too amateur. Echo chamber is a bit harsh possibly but I see where you are coming from. The irony being that the demands to defund it by certain pressure groups screams of echo chambering..... Seems a bit of a kerfuffle for something that attracted less viewers than the Emma mattress bonanza on Ideal World to me 😀
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 14, 2021 19:00:01 GMT
I've not listened to the channel...
For me I think that " news channels " are old hat in the age of social media.
I don't think it would/ will become popular for that reason.
People, particularly young people, are getting their information from elsewhere.
A bigger issue for me is the BBC , only there because of tradition and guaranteed funding and peddling a viewpoint and agenda, not just reporting the news. Being very selective about " the news".
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 16, 2021 22:31:32 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 17, 2021 5:38:49 GMT
Interesting to see him being every bit as evasive and disingenuous as the politicians he likes to grill. Shame Fiona Bruce didn’t ask him why he is still intending to appear, as announced, on the channel as a regular guest on the Nigel Farage show. I wonder when the truth will out.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 17, 2021 6:51:00 GMT
It's pretty obvious he didn't want to be part of the daft echo chamber and for a journalist of his standing you can understand that.
Fair play to him for not sticking the knife in to his ex employers.
I see Murdoch also fancies a crack at the QAnon right-wing headbangers audience now...
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Post by Northy on Sept 17, 2021 6:54:07 GMT
Interesting to see him being every bit as evasive and disingenuous as the politicians he likes to grill. Shame Fiona Bruce didn’t ask him why he is still intending to appear, as announced, on the channel as a regular guest on the Nigel Farage show. I wonder when the truth will out. Probably avoiding possible letters from solicitors
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 17, 2021 11:30:38 GMT
It's pretty obvious he didn't want to be part of the daft echo chamber and for a journalist of his standing you can understand that. Fair play to him for not sticking the knife in to his ex employers. I see Murdoch also fancies a crack at the QAnon right-wing headbangers audience now... So you assume everybody who might watch it is a Qanon headbanger? This is why you fail to see the world as it really is. Sweeping generalisations like that help nobody. It is the exact same characteristic racists and sexists display. I haven't seen much of it other than 10 mins here and there, but I like to see different interpretations of the MSM guff that is pumped out 27/7. I certainly wasn't just going to take other peoples word that it is a Qanon extreme right bait channel and not bother seeing for myself.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 17, 2021 11:42:04 GMT
It's pretty obvious he didn't want to be part of the daft echo chamber and for a journalist of his standing you can understand that. Fair play to him for not sticking the knife in to his ex employers. I see Murdoch also fancies a crack at the QAnon right-wing headbangers audience now... So you assume everybody who might watch it is a Qanon headbanger? This is why you fail to see the world as it really is. Sweeping generalisations like that help nobody. It is the exact same characteristic racists and sexists display. I haven't seen much of it other than 10 mins here and there, but I like to see different interpretations of the MSM guff that is pumped out 27/7. I certainly wasn't just going to take other peoples word that it is a Qanon extreme right bait channel and not bother seeing for myself. He didn’t say everyone who watches it is a Qanon headbanger though did he?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 17, 2021 15:00:35 GMT
So you assume everybody who might watch it is a Qanon headbanger? This is why you fail to see the world as it really is. Sweeping generalisations like that help nobody. It is the exact same characteristic racists and sexists display. I haven't seen much of it other than 10 mins here and there, but I like to see different interpretations of the MSM guff that is pumped out 27/7. I certainly wasn't just going to take other peoples word that it is a Qanon extreme right bait channel and not bother seeing for myself. He didn’t say everyone who watches it is a Qanon headbanger though did he? I disagree.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 17, 2021 16:28:39 GMT
He didn’t say everyone who watches it is a Qanon headbanger though did he? I disagree. Andrew Neil himself said that FoxNews tells untruths & peddles conspiracy theories & he didn’t want GBNews to do that. I think anyone can see that that's why he wanted no part of it. Fox does indeed pander to the QAnon nutjob brigade. Obviously that doesn't mean everyone who watches it is one, but it's self evident that those kind of people are preferentially attracted to these kind of channels. I was surprised, and a bit disappointed, that Neil lessened himself by joining GBNews in the first place, but the fact that he's quit so soon speaks volumes about the nature of what he was no doubt promised it would be like, the actual direction it took, and his own integrity as a journalist.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 17, 2021 17:15:44 GMT
Andrew Neil himself said that FoxNews tells untruths & peddles conspiracy theories & he didn’t want GBNews to do that. I think anyone can see that that's why he wanted no part of it. Fox does indeed pander to the QAnon nutjob brigade. Obviously that doesn't mean everyone who watches it is one, but it's self evident that those kind of people are preferentially attracted to these kind of channels. I was surprised, and a bit disappointed, that Neil lessened himself by joining GBNews in the first place, but the fact that he's quit so soon speaks volumes about the nature of what he was no doubt promised it would be like, the actual direction it took, and his own integrity as a journalist. So before it even started you had made up your mind about what your view on it was, such tolerance I don't necessarily disagree with some of your views on it incidentally. But you really don't seem to have given it much of a chance.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 18, 2021 7:37:04 GMT
Andrew Neil himself said that FoxNews tells untruths & peddles conspiracy theories & he didn’t want GBNews to do that. I think anyone can see that that's why he wanted no part of it. Fox does indeed pander to the QAnon nutjob brigade. Obviously that doesn't mean everyone who watches it is one, but it's self evident that those kind of people are preferentially attracted to these kind of channels. I was surprised, and a bit disappointed, that Neil lessened himself by joining GBNews in the first place, but the fact that he's quit so soon speaks volumes about the nature of what he was no doubt promised it would be like, the actual direction it took, and his own integrity as a journalist. So before it even started you had made up your mind about what your view on it was, such tolerance I don't necessarily disagree with some of your views on it incidentally. But you really don't seem to have given it much of a chance. I wouldn't say I'd made my mind up about it, but, let's be honest, it wasn't the toughest prediction to foresee that it was going to turn into the kind of echo chamber it did, attract the kind of people who read Breitbart and love conspiracy bollocks, and that someone like Neil would be uncomfortable with that as a journalist of some integrity at least. It's a bit like Stoke going to Man City. Most sensible people would predict a loss. Occasionally, like when Diouf scored and we won, everyone gets a shock, but in this case there were more than enough hints ahead of its launch about the kind of channel it was going to be for most folk to have had the feeling that it'd degenerate into the nonsense it has. The interesting thing is that Murdoch clearly thinks there is a market out there for this kind of thing, done better, perhaps not quite so nuts, in the UK.
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 18, 2021 10:17:35 GMT
Andrew Neil himself said that FoxNews tells untruths & peddles conspiracy theories & he didn’t want GBNews to do that. I think anyone can see that that's why he wanted no part of it. Fox does indeed pander to the QAnon nutjob brigade. Obviously that doesn't mean everyone who watches it is one, but it's self evident that those kind of people are preferentially attracted to these kind of channels. I was surprised, and a bit disappointed, that Neil lessened himself by joining GBNews in the first place, but the fact that he's quit so soon speaks volumes about the nature of what he was no doubt promised it would be like, the actual direction it took, and his own integrity as a journalist. So before it even started you had made up your mind about what your view on it was, such tolerance I don't necessarily disagree with some of your views on it incidentally. But you really don't seem to have given it much of a chance. It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in.
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Post by hoffgreen on Sept 18, 2021 10:25:44 GMT
So before it even started you had made up your mind about what your view on it was, such tolerance I don't necessarily disagree with some of your views on it incidentally. But you really don't seem to have given it much of a chance. It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Would you consider the over representation of non white people in MSM and adverts anti white?
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Post by prettything on Sept 18, 2021 11:52:06 GMT
It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Would you consider the over representation of non white people in MSM and adverts anti white? What’s MSM? It’s an inflammatory isn’t it?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 18, 2021 13:26:32 GMT
So before it even started you had made up your mind about what your view on it was, such tolerance I don't necessarily disagree with some of your views on it incidentally. But you really don't seem to have given it much of a chance. It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. To be fair I think there is a sliding scale of woke with idiots at both ends of the scale.
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 18, 2021 14:52:07 GMT
It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Would you consider the over representation of non white people in MSM and adverts anti white? No, do you?
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 18, 2021 15:04:52 GMT
It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Would you consider the over representation of non white people in MSM and adverts anti white? So you get upset/angry when you're watching telly and an advert comes on and the actors aren't white? Fucking hell mate, think you've got some issues. How old are you? Maybe some therapy is in order?
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Post by thevoid on Sept 18, 2021 17:35:47 GMT
So before it even started you had made up your mind about what your view on it was, such tolerance I don't necessarily disagree with some of your views on it incidentally. But you really don't seem to have given it much of a chance. It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Woke also means trying to get people sacked from their jobs- or kicked off their university courses- for the heinous crimes of either not jumping on the BLM bandwagon until they'd done further due diligence, or stating scientific facts. Basically they're a bunch of zealots- the flip side of the coin to the far right that they oppose- and most well adjusted people see them as crackpots. I can see why they'd appeal to you though,,,👍
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2021 18:06:36 GMT
It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Woke also means trying to get people sacked from their jobs- or kicked off their university courses- for the heinous crimes of either not jumping on the BLM bandwagon until they'd done further due diligence, or stating scientific facts. Basically they're a bunch of zealots- the flip side of the coin to the far right that they oppose- and most well adjusted people see them as crackpots. I can see why they'd appeal to you though,,,👍 #nowilko
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Post by thevoid on Sept 18, 2021 18:33:19 GMT
It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Would you consider the over representation of non white people in MSM and adverts anti white? I don't know about that, but I saw the new advert for Uncle Ben's rice the other day. 'For a more inclusive future' (their words) they've scrapped the 'Uncle' and removed a perfectly innocuous picture of a black guy (who was apparently a chef) from their packaging. That just screams inclusivity....🤦 I feel sorry for anyone who was triggered by the original packaging, they must be wired differently to the rest of us. Meanwhile, Ben is busy slipping one up Aunt Bessie 😀
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 18, 2021 19:35:30 GMT
It was launched as being "anti-woke" wasn't it? Considering being "woke" seems to mean being vigorously against racism and discrimination its not hard to imagine the type of bellend that would tune in. Woke also means trying to get people sacked from their jobs- or kicked off their university courses- for the heinous crimes of either not jumping on the BLM bandwagon until they'd done further due diligence, or stating scientific facts. Basically they're a bunch of zealots- the flip side of the coin to the far right that they oppose- and most well adjusted people see them as crackpots. I can see why they'd appeal to you though,,,👍 Well at least you didn't say " political correctness gone mad". But you're still boring as fuck.
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