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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 6:33:03 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 16, 2020 6:33:03 GMT
A genuine question, has be actually been seen at the club training. Is he even in the country?. He landed in Leighton Buzzard. This is true, if you take a drive there you will see a massive crater in the ground.
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Post by Gods on Sept 16, 2020 6:52:33 GMT
Why does no one ever ask at the press conferences.
'What's the story with Kev Wimmer Michael, do you even know where he is?'
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 7:01:08 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Sept 16, 2020 7:01:08 GMT
Wimmer signed for Stoke City on 28 August 2017, for a fee of £18 million.[24] Manager Mark Hughes said that "Bringing Kevin here is a real coup in my view, because he is a hugely talented young player who will undoubtedly add further quality to the group...There is a lot of money being spent this summer, so for us to get a player of Kevin’s calibre through the door for the price we have paid, in my opinion, is something we will really appreciate for years to come" Fucking Hughes Sometimes I think it’s all to easy to blame the CEO they have to take the advice of their employees on matters Not sticking up for scholes btw But obviously our ex managers were recommending players and he was going out getting them It’s like changing a supplier at work But yea Wimmer is gash And Rowett was and is a useless cunt and a huge mistake The CEO who watches every signing 25 times and carries out all due diligence on all signings
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 8:38:36 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Sept 16, 2020 8:38:36 GMT
I think we were in for Maguire, but Hughes preferred Wimmer instead! I'm not sure this is right. We had both Maguire and Robertson in the bag until Leicester and Liverpool came in with better offers I wrote think as I'm sure I read somewhere this was the case, but you might be right.
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Post by s7oke on Sept 16, 2020 8:42:52 GMT
Wimmer signed for Stoke City on 28 August 2017, for a fee of £18 million.[24] Manager Mark Hughes said that "Bringing Kevin here is a real coup in my view, because he is a hugely talented young player who will undoubtedly add further quality to the group...There is a lot of money being spent this summer, so for us to get a player of Kevin’s calibre through the door for the price we have paid, in my opinion, is something we will really appreciate for years to come" Fucking Hughes Sometimes I think it’s all to easy to blame the CEO they have to take the advice of their employees on matters Not sticking up for scholes btw But obviously our ex managers were recommending players and he was going out getting them It’s like changing a supplier at work But yea Wimmer is gash And Rowett was and is a useless cunt and a huge mistake The CEO who watches every signing 25 times and carries out all due diligence on all signings Technically he said that the club had them watched not watched by himself personally lol So again a lot of the blame is down to employees Which I suspect Cartwright had a lot to do with. If the manager wants a player and scholes gets him he’s done his job really wages etc are another thing
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2020 10:11:57 GMT
They also say the manager has final say on the signings....... Manager reports to the person with executive responsibility for all football matters I say again, the manager has final say on signings, if they're in budget we go for them, thats been pretty clear for a while now.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Sept 16, 2020 10:40:16 GMT
I still maintain that Wimmer is the worst signing in Stoke's history. Imbula and Berahino have obvious talent but also have serious attitude issues. You can argue that Imbula or Berahino were worth having a punt with because of that talent. Wimmer was very clearly a jobbing layman centre back, it was clear from his very first appearance. I'm no fan of Chester but he is a class act in comparison to Wimmer. Spurs fans generally liked Wimmer and Wimmer has played more season in the top flight than Chester. Other than that spot on. I work with lots of Spurs fans. To a man and woman they could not believe their luck. In fact one or two had to undergo surgery - hernia brought on by convulsive laughter. I have heard it suggested that when we wrote the cheque, our crack team thought they were paying £1.8m, but got the decimal point in the wrong place. And by the time they realised the mistake, Daniel Levy had already scurried to the bank and cashed it.
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 10:41:06 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2020 10:41:06 GMT
Spurs fans generally liked Wimmer and Wimmer has played more season in the top flight than Chester. Other than that spot on. I work with lots of Spurs fans. To a man and woman they could not believe their luck. In fact one or two had to undergo surgery - hernia brought on by convulsive laughter. I have heard it suggested that when we wrote the cheque, our crack team thought they were paying £1.8m, but got the decimal point in the wrong place. And by the time they realised the mistake, Daniel Levy had already scurried to the bank and cashed it. The fee was always nuts.
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 13:18:06 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2020 13:18:06 GMT
Manager reports to the person with executive responsibility for all football matters I say again, the manager has final say on signings, if they're in budget we go for them, thats been pretty clear for a while now. That’s not what the Board said couldn’t be clearer “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ Now I’m not saying he overrules the manager on who to sign but ultimately the whole recruitment process is his responsibility and it’s a debacle
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 16, 2020 13:29:00 GMT
I say again, the manager has final say on signings, if they're in budget we go for them, thats been pretty clear for a while now. That’s not what the Board said couldn’t be clearer “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ Now I’m not saying he overrules the manager on who to sign but ultimately the whole recruitment process is his responsibility and it’s a debacle Everyone knows that isn’t the case. The owners agree terms with new managers and that has meant giving them control of transfers. The CEOs job is to deliver on the players identified. If you were in any doubt, why have the owners fired managers and not the CEO? Presumably they know better than any of us what goes on.
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 15:31:35 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2020 15:31:35 GMT
I say again, the manager has final say on signings, if they're in budget we go for them, thats been pretty clear for a while now. That’s not what the Board said couldn’t be clearer “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ Now I’m not saying he overrules the manager on who to sign but ultimately the whole recruitment process is his responsibility and it’s a debacle So how would you change the process, stop the manager chosing the players?
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 16, 2020 15:45:36 GMT
That’s not what the Board said couldn’t be clearer “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ Now I’m not saying he overrules the manager on who to sign but ultimately the whole recruitment process is his responsibility and it’s a debacle So how would you change the process, stop the manager chosing the players? Who was choosing the players when we didn't have a manager in place X2 ?
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 16:07:08 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Sept 16, 2020 16:07:08 GMT
That’s not what the Board said couldn’t be clearer “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ Now I’m not saying he overrules the manager on who to sign but ultimately the whole recruitment process is his responsibility and it’s a debacle Everyone knows that isn’t the case. The owners agree terms with new managers and that has meant giving them control of transfers. The CEOs job is to deliver on the players identified. If you were in any doubt, why have the owners fired managers and not the CEO? Presumably they know better than any of us what goes on. "What's all the fuss about", "nothing wrong with the process", "this is ambition"
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 17:13:49 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2020 17:13:49 GMT
So how would you change the process, stop the manager chosing the players? Who was choosing the players when we didn't have a manager in place X2 ? Who knows, you don't I don't but I'm sure you'll pin it on someone with zero facts to back it up.
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 17:35:23 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Sept 16, 2020 17:35:23 GMT
Who was choosing the players when we didn't have a manager in place X2 ? Who knows, you don't I don't but I'm sure you'll pin it on someone with zero facts to back it up. So it was not the manager then
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 17:50:31 GMT
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2020 17:50:31 GMT
That’s not what the Board said couldn’t be clearer “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ Now I’m not saying he overrules the manager on who to sign but ultimately the whole recruitment process is his responsibility and it’s a debacle So how would you change the process, stop the manager chosing the players? Personallg I would remove the current chief executive as the only consistent factor left in a process that’s continually failed on every measurable level and create a new environment and scouting system as well as transaction model , led by a football man in the board room a proper director of football , and employee a FD on a right sized salary ,
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 17:57:48 GMT
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2020 17:57:48 GMT
That’s not what the Board said couldn’t be clearer “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ Now I’m not saying he overrules the manager on who to sign but ultimately the whole recruitment process is his responsibility and it’s a debacle Everyone knows that isn’t the case. The owners agree terms with new managers and that has meant giving them control of transfers. The CEOs job is to deliver on the players identified. If you were in any doubt, why have the owners fired managers and not the CEO? Presumably they know better than any of us what goes on. If hughes had the final say McGuire and Robertson and Delph would have been here , of course the manager doesn’t sign players he hasnt agreed to but to suggest the manager has absolute control clearly is to ignore the board statement “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ with regard to why they haven’t fired the ceo god only knows it’s far too cosy having three family members on the board with him and no challenge or external perspective and perhaps that’s why
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 19:09:32 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2020 19:09:32 GMT
Who knows, you don't I don't but I'm sure you'll pin it on someone with zero facts to back it up. So it was not the manager then Well obviously, we didn't have one (looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool)
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 19:15:38 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 16, 2020 19:15:38 GMT
Do they club actually know who he is? Surely they’ve notice this fella that appears every few months, carrying a little more timber each time. Perhaps they think he’s a super fan, perhaps a groundsman?
It’s weird we don’t hear anything from the club? Too embarrassed to highlight another appalling signing.
So many questions so few answers😂
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 19:29:29 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Sept 16, 2020 19:29:29 GMT
So it was not the manager then Well obviously, we didn't have one (looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool) So who sanctioned these signings ? as we have already heard on here all these shit signings are solely down to the "managers" our board of clowns sorry directors employed LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL who carries out due diligence on potential signings who negotiates the salary and length of contract for these shit signings ?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 16, 2020 19:42:26 GMT
Wimmer signed for Stoke City on 28 August 2017, for a fee of £18 million.[24] Manager Mark Hughes said that "Bringing Kevin here is a real coup in my view, because he is a hugely talented young player who will undoubtedly add further quality to the group...There is a lot of money being spent this summer, so for us to get a player of Kevin’s calibre through the door for the price we have paid, in my opinion, is something we will really appreciate for years to come" Fucking Hughes Sometimes I think it’s all to easy to blame the CEO they have to take the advice of their employees on matters Not sticking up for scholes btw But obviously our ex managers were recommending players and he was going out getting them It’s like changing a supplier at work But yea Wimmer is gash And Rowett was and is a useless cunt and a huge mistake Legend has it that the Pizza Boys were sat in the office, on deadline day, excited that Wimmer was a distinct possibility and Spurs were just waiting for an offer. They were tucking into their pizzas as Scholes reached over to the fax, pizza in hand, to put in an offer of what he thought was £1.8m not realising he’d left the decimal point out. 2 seconds later the offer was accepted. Next morning Hughes made his statement thinking that he’d got him for £1.8m, a decent price considering Spurs had bought him for £4m and he’d made just 15 PL appearances in 2 seasons at WHL. When Scholes realised his fuck up it was too late and he disappeared for 2 weeks leave. Could well explain a lot and wouldn’t be at all surprised there is some truth in the story.
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Sept 16, 2020 20:09:36 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2020 20:09:36 GMT
Well obviously, we didn't have one (looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool) So who sanctioned these signings ? as we have already heard on here all these shit signings are solely down to the "managers" our board of clowns sorry directors employed LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL who carries out due diligence on potential signings who negotiates the salary and length of contract for these shit signings ? Who knows, there's plenty of people that could have been consulted, im not defending giving them the contracts it was a massive error in judgment even though it was well intentioned. I would have thought Scholes negotiates the salary and length, either way he's stuck, give them short contracts and they're stars and get pinched for less; he gets shit, give them a long contracts and they're shit and he gets shit. Someone said about the reason for a long contract but I can't remember it fully, something about spreading the cost. The length of contracts concerns me less than the amount of shit signings we made, maybe the answer is to take it out of the managers hands and have soemone else in charge and have a head coach kind of set up.
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 20:22:28 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Sept 16, 2020 20:22:28 GMT
Wimmer signed for Stoke City on 28 August 2017, for a fee of £18 million.[24] Manager Mark Hughes said that "Bringing Kevin here is a real coup in my view, because he is a hugely talented young player who will undoubtedly add further quality to the group...There is a lot of money being spent this summer, so for us to get a player of Kevin’s calibre through the door for the price we have paid, in my opinion, is something we will really appreciate for years to come" Fucking Hughes Sometimes I think it’s all to easy to blame the CEO they have to take the advice of their employees on matters Not sticking up for scholes btw But obviously our ex managers were recommending players and he was going out getting them It’s like changing a supplier at work But yea Wimmer is gash And Rowett was and is a useless cunt and a huge mistake Legend has it that the Pizza Boys were sat in the office, on deadline day, excited that Wimmer was a distinct possibility and Spurs were just waiting for an offer. They were tucking into their pizzas as Scholes reached over to the fax, pizza in hand, to put in an offer of what he thought was £1.8m not realising he’d left the decimal point out. 2 seconds later the offer was accepted. Next morning Hughes made his statement thinking that he’d got him for £1.8m, a decent price considering Spurs had bought him for £4m and he’d made just 15 PL appearances in 2 seasons at WHL. When Scholes realised his fuck up it was too late and he disappeared for 2 weeks leave. Could well explain a lot and wouldn’t be at all surprised there is some truth in the story. If that were true in any sense and he is still in a job we are well and truly fcuked.
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Sept 16, 2020 22:12:59 GMT
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 16, 2020 22:12:59 GMT
Everyone knows that isn’t the case. The owners agree terms with new managers and that has meant giving them control of transfers. The CEOs job is to deliver on the players identified. If you were in any doubt, why have the owners fired managers and not the CEO? Presumably they know better than any of us what goes on. If hughes had the final say McGuire and Robertson and Delph would have been here , of course the manager doesn’t sign players he hasnt agreed to but to suggest the manager has absolute control clearly is to ignore the board statement “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ with regard to why they haven’t fired the ceo god only knows it’s far too cosy having three family members on the board with him and no challenge or external perspective and perhaps that’s why That’s nonsense. All these of those players decided not to come to Stoke, equally I know Berahino only came because Scholes made it happen against the odds but the CEO was not the person who identified Wimmer, Berahino or Imbula. But I ask again, if the CEO is at fault, why do the owners sack managers and not him. Presumably they have better insight than you or me as to who is at fault
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 22:30:20 GMT
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 16, 2020 22:30:20 GMT
Why does no one ever ask at the press conferences. 'What's the story with Kev Wimmer Michael, do you even know where he is?' MON - 'well Kevins come back to the club, but i dont know who he is cos ive never seen him. Plus ive heard he's a fat lazy money grabbing cunt, and i dont want that attitude in my well disciplined dressing room. We're working hard to weed out these players so I'm determined to banish him from the club." Interviewer - "what about etebo, badou and bauer" MON - "see my previous comment"
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Sept 16, 2020 22:32:00 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2020 22:32:00 GMT
If hughes had the final say McGuire and Robertson and Delph would have been here , of course the manager doesn’t sign players he hasnt agreed to but to suggest the manager has absolute control clearly is to ignore the board statement “chief executive has executive responsibility for all football matters “ with regard to why they haven’t fired the ceo god only knows it’s far too cosy having three family members on the board with him and no challenge or external perspective and perhaps that’s why That’s nonsense. All these of those players decided not to come to Stoke, equally I know Berahino only came because Scholes made it happen against the odds but the CEO was not the person who identified Wimmer, Berahino or Imbula. But I ask again, if the CEO is at fault, why do the owners sack managers and not him. Presumably they have better insight than you or me as to who is at fault Then why say he is responsible for all football matters he either is or he isn’t he’s paid 800,000 a year for something and that’s not just counting beans
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 22:37:52 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2020 22:37:52 GMT
That’s nonsense. All these of those players decided not to come to Stoke, equally I know Berahino only came because Scholes made it happen against the odds but the CEO was not the person who identified Wimmer, Berahino or Imbula. But I ask again, if the CEO is at fault, why do the owners sack managers and not him. Presumably they have better insight than you or me as to who is at fault Then why say he is responsible for all football matters he either is or he isn’t he’s paid 800,000 a year for something and that’s not just counting beans Do you think that means he's responsible for tactics and match day line ups? Clearly some things don't apply.
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Wimmer
Sept 17, 2020 15:50:04 GMT
Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Sept 17, 2020 15:50:04 GMT
Wimmer signed for Stoke City on 28 August 2017, for a fee of £18 million.[24] Manager Mark Hughes said that "Bringing Kevin here is a real coup in my view, because he is a hugely talented young player who will undoubtedly add further quality to the group...There is a lot of money being spent this summer, so for us to get a player of Kevin’s calibre through the door for the price we have paid, in my opinion, is something we will really appreciate for years to come" Fucking Hughes Sometimes I think it’s all to easy to blame the CEO they have to take the advice of their employees on matters Not sticking up for scholes btw But obviously our ex managers were recommending players and he was going out getting them It’s like changing a supplier at work But yea Wimmer is gash And Rowett was and is a useless cunt and a huge mistake Legend has it that the Pizza Boys were sat in the office, on deadline day, excited that Wimmer was a distinct possibility and Spurs were just waiting for an offer. They were tucking into their pizzas as Scholes reached over to the fax, pizza in hand, to put in an offer of what he thought was £1.8m not realising he’d left the decimal point out. 2 seconds later the offer was accepted. Next morning Hughes made his statement thinking that he’d got him for £1.8m, a decent price considering Spurs had bought him for £4m and he’d made just 15 PL appearances in 2 seasons at WHL. When Scholes realised his fuck up it was too late and he disappeared for 2 weeks leave. Could well explain a lot and wouldn’t be at all surprised there is some truth in the story. Smells corruption all the way
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Wimmer
Jan 31, 2021 19:30:20 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2021 19:30:20 GMT
Talk of Wimmer being loaned to Karlsruhe - but mention of Stoke paying all/nearly all of his wages
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Wimmer
Jan 31, 2021 19:33:12 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Jan 31, 2021 19:33:12 GMT
Talk of Wimmer being loaned to Karlsruhe - but mention of Stoke paying all/nearly all of his wages Aren't we nice!
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