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Aug 4, 2020 19:10:11 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 4, 2020 19:10:11 GMT
The attendances for anything other than the big two are no more than National league levels. They'd feel intimidated if you did that. Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs all get decent attendances. My team Dundee United are a 10-12k average attendance when they are on the up. League one attendances though aren't they
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Aug 4, 2020 19:19:15 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 19:19:15 GMT
John, I confess to knowing very little about the Irish leagues, either north or south, but wonder how many of the Irish clubs would be able to compete with the top 8/10 from the SPL. Shamrock Rovers, Dundalk...Population wise ROI and Scotland are not too dissimilar, but footballing history wise, at club level, they seem poles apart. So a Celtic league might be very appealing to clubs in Ireland and maybe less so to the Scots, whilst we English would probably enjoy watching them try convince us it really was competitive. If the Welsh joined in it would need to be Cardiff & Swansea to give the Old Firm any sort of competitionI can hear the stirrings of unrest in Newport and Wrexham, already, at that comment! I wouldn't say is a huge difference between Dundalk and say Inverness CT but Dundalk is a town with a population of less than Crewe and football accounts for only 15% of attendances in the country. Celtic of course would bring enough support themselves to say Shamrock Rovers but without the Welsh teams it would be no different to the current set up. Bottom line is that Celtic are a far bigger club than most teams in England and only a European League would really work for them.
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Aug 4, 2020 19:34:25 GMT
Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 4, 2020 19:34:25 GMT
Is there honestly any point to this. I know you cud say the same about Ligue 1 Serie A and Bundesliga but atleast there is some quality. Ive just put BBC Sport Website up to see Celtic have won 5-1. Waiting for people to say Gerrard is doing somthing at Rangers. Yes hes not doing bad. However Celtic will once again win another title. Lennon must love winning every week. Take out Rangers and the rest are League One standard. (No offemce to league one). Must have to put Celtic on TV every week id imagine. Im not anti Celtic i just think the league is a farce. Their top division is certainly very uncompetitive largely due to the 2 horse "Old Firm" race becoming a one horse race when Rangers were banished to the bottom of the League. I think there should have been a way to punish the Rangers owners for their offences without removing what little competition there was between the big two. But to ask what the point is seems to miss the obvious point that virtually every country in the world has a significant number of people who want to watch local football teams play. If I were Irish (Northern or Southern) or Scottish I'd be thinking perhaps there would be scope to have a Celtic League of 12 reasonably competitive clubs based in the 3 countries - or even 4 countries if Wales could be persuaded to join. Football below the Celtic League would have to be on a single country basis with 1 team from each country being promoted each year and replaced the bottom placed club from that country in the Celtic League. Sits back and watches if anyone supports my idea! There's already been talk of splitting the English League One and lower into regional divisions to reduce travel, so I can't see Scotland and Northern Ireland being thrown into the mix. Imagine if Port Vale no longer had to travel to Ipswich or Plymouth...but instead had to head to Ross County, Peterhead or Thurso! It would be amusing though.
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Aug 4, 2020 21:21:12 GMT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Aug 4, 2020 21:21:12 GMT
There is a lot of snobbery here. I watch a lot of spl and there isn't much difference. In fact stoke under Rowett or Jones would have struggled near the bottom of the SPL. Stoke under O'Neill I would say have stepped up a level but despite spending much more than the old firm in recent years, both Celtic and Rangers are better than us I dont say this very often as i like to give people chance. However what bollocks. Not the fact you watch SPL. Im sorry though. Attendances League Two standard apart from the top 2. League one level football bar top 2 there middle Championship standard. Celtic regularly get humiliated in Europe. Why because they aint good enough simple. Yet beating Hamilton Ross County St Johnstone on way to the title makes people think Celtic are fantastic. In reality makes you realise how shit the SPL is. Hence i started the thread with whats the point. It was said on Talksport abour Gerrard and Rangers. Would he be interested in the Bournemouth job. Stuff was asked about both. Rangers is more famous because of History and fanbase. Bournemouth is the bigger job tho. Why because its a competitive league. More is at Stake. Its no real achievement imo to win the SPL with Celtic or Rangers because the rest can get near it.
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Aug 5, 2020 23:49:57 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 5, 2020 23:49:57 GMT
I’ll occasionally put it on and try to watch it but it usually goes off after 5/10 minutes. I just can’t get into it. They do stuff that seems so bad. Rangers in Europe this year was quite fun but only because you were waiting for them to fuck up or Morelos to bite someone.
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Aug 27, 2020 19:56:11 GMT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Aug 27, 2020 19:56:11 GMT
My original point exactly. Celtic out to a team from Hungary.
Yet come Sat they will win with ease again.
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Aug 30, 2020 17:24:28 GMT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Aug 30, 2020 17:24:28 GMT
Just thought id say point made again. Out of CL then win easily 3-0
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Aug 30, 2020 17:27:37 GMT
Post by Squeekster on Aug 30, 2020 17:27:37 GMT
Just thought id say point made again. Out of CL then win easily 3-0 Yes but the fit and proper folk running the game now allow Celtic to go into the Europa league proper!
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Aug 30, 2020 17:31:00 GMT
Post by spiderpuss on Aug 30, 2020 17:31:00 GMT
Just thought id say point made again. Out of CL then win easily 3-0 Yes but the fit and proper folk running the game now allow Celtic to go into the Europa league proper! You have to query if the fans are happy watching this year in year out. Just pottering around in a nothing league and then when you get a medium-decent (well no better than any team in our league) in Europe it's bang and out. Dull dull dull.
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Aug 30, 2020 17:54:42 GMT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Aug 30, 2020 17:54:42 GMT
Yes but the fit and proper folk running the game now allow Celtic to go into the Europa league proper! You have to query if the fans are happy watching this year in year out. Just pottering around in a nothing league and then when you get a medium-decent (well no better than any team in our league) in Europe it's bang and out. Dull dull dull. The old debate came up on Talksport other nighy about Celtic Rangers playing in England. If it ever happened i agree with what was said. Thry would have to start from non league. Personally i hope it never happens.
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Aug 30, 2020 19:12:32 GMT
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Post by neckender78 on Aug 30, 2020 19:12:32 GMT
What is happening with the lower leagues in Scotland? SPL been going a few weeks now. Doing nothing is going bankrupt many of the smaller clubs.
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Aug 30, 2020 20:20:27 GMT
Post by trout101 on Aug 30, 2020 20:20:27 GMT
My original point exactly. Celtic out to a team from Hungary. Yet come Sat they will win with ease again. They beat Lazio home and away just last season.. you probs didn't comment on that though.
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Aug 30, 2020 21:06:04 GMT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Aug 30, 2020 21:06:04 GMT
The point i was making originally is valid and has been proven this last week. The League is a farce.
You cant really argue it can you. They have no real competition week in week out. Make it to Europe every year and fail because they are not good enough. I dont know how you solve the problem.
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Aug 30, 2020 21:41:44 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 30, 2020 21:41:44 GMT
The point i was making originally is valid and has been proven this last week. The League is a farce. You cant really argue it can you. They have no real competition week in week out. Make it to Europe every year and fail because they are not good enough. I dont know how you solve the problem. Celtic and Rangers to join the English League (from step 7 of non league and work their way up) The rest to form two divisions playing each other just twice, move it to summer season and promote young players Eventually you might have a competitive league Small divisions promotes negative football as relegation is always close
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2020 0:13:25 GMT
Celtic and Rangers should never be allowed to join the English league. We should be trying to fuck the Welsh clubs off as we speak too! 😂
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Post by alsagerstokie on Aug 31, 2020 7:09:08 GMT
I often wondered why this was the case never knew until talksport gave the reason. When Cardiff and Swansea Newport were formed there was no Welsh league. Bit of trivia for you there.
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Aug 31, 2020 7:38:11 GMT
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Post by ab61 on Aug 31, 2020 7:38:11 GMT
I often wondered why this was the case never knew until talksport gave the reason. When Cardiff and Swansea Newport were formed there was no Welsh league. Bit of trivia for you there. As soon as the welsh league was formed they should have been fucked off right back to where they should be. Right off.
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Aug 31, 2020 9:46:02 GMT
Post by trout101 on Aug 31, 2020 9:46:02 GMT
.Make it to Europe every year and fail because they are not good enough. Rangers got to the last 16 of the Europa in the season just gone going out to Bayer Leverkusen and that is after a long campaign with a million qualifiers, Celtic last 32 but as mentioned they got out of a very tough group beating Lazio home & away. It also wasn't that long ago they both reached the UEFA cup final. When it comes to domestic games yeah there is a huge discrepancy in money and talent between the Old Firm and the rest of them. But let's not forget that in Italy, Juve have won the last 9 titles, France PSG win every year, Germany Bayern always win. Rangers getting demoted to the 4th tier defo didn't help.
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Aug 31, 2020 11:01:03 GMT
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Post by alanhudson1972 on Aug 31, 2020 11:01:03 GMT
I was brought up with a lifelong love for Celtic and a lifelong loathing of the blue nosed bastards, those cheating cunts shouldn't even be allowed to exist any more after what they did, however the SPL is a joke league these days and the entire league structure in Scotland is very poor in quality, I would love to see Celtic competing in the english game but I can't ever see it happening there they have too much history in Scotland for that to ever be feasible, hail hail xx 🍀🇮🇪
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Aug 31, 2020 11:19:49 GMT
Post by spiderpuss on Aug 31, 2020 11:19:49 GMT
You have to query if the fans are happy watching this year in year out. Just pottering around in a nothing league and then when you get a medium-decent (well no better than any team in our league) in Europe it's bang and out. Dull dull dull. The old debate came up on Talksport other nighy about Celtic Rangers playing in England. If it ever happened i agree with what was said. Thry would have to start from non league. Personally i hope it never happens. You can imagine some are looking over the border with envy at the riches available just a few 100 miles away. The fan base is massive and it wouldn't take to much for a move. It won't happen in the current climate, but I'd never rule it out entirely. The trouble with that league is there's a cap on what you can do, and that reflects in the European efforts.
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Aug 31, 2020 11:44:34 GMT
Having watched quite alot of the SPL start to the season, the standard is not great and I think Rangers will surprise people this year and win the title mainly due to Kent who they picked up from Liverpool, he may not have been first team quality for Liverpool but he looks fantastic in Scotland, time will tell 🙄 One other observation is the size of Rangers support is unbelievable 😳😳😳
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Aug 31, 2020 12:05:35 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 31, 2020 12:05:35 GMT
Fuckin dyslexia..... Thought this was about "Stoke Loud & Proud"!!!
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