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Post by neddy on Jul 19, 2020 8:10:12 GMT
Lewis us contracted to 2023.....nothing in this is there.
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Post by s8to on Jul 19, 2020 8:17:19 GMT
For me the clear out is much simpler... Scholes out, Macron gone, then tinker with the squad...
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Post by s8to on Jul 19, 2020 8:17:49 GMT
For me the clear out is much simpler... Scholes out, Macron gone, then tinker with the squad...
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 19, 2020 8:40:00 GMT
We really need a good defensive midfielder.
Pearson would still be my first choice. Wouldn’t be cheap but is entering the final 12 months of his contract so Preston will probably be looking to cash in.
Cheaper alternatives would be Sam Morsy or Alex Mowatt.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 19, 2020 9:17:33 GMT
David Marshall, Martin Boyle, Paddy Mcnair, a new LB, is the bare minimum.
We are owed a good season, regardless of the ffp rules the manager has to be backed to bring at least 3-4 faces he wants.
I can't see how the club can't get some money in for Etebo and Badou, both have done well at teams at the top in turkey and Spain.
The big issue is Campbell and maybe Powell will possibly attract big offers. I can see premier league teams going big on Campbell.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2020 9:20:33 GMT
And we need better than Campbell, Verlinden and Collins as starters. Squad players that can develop but nowhere near a promotion side I disagree. Campbell has what, 9 goals from half a season? That’s more than enough to show he could get 15/20 in a full season. Collins is one of the best centre backs at his age in the world. We need to build the side around him really and let him flourish. He’s a leader too which we don’t have many of. Verlinden should be in a pool of 3/4 wingers that are all used and played yeah. He offers way more than McClean though already. The biggest issue with him is injuries.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 19, 2020 9:23:13 GMT
Lewis us contracted to 2023.....nothing in this is there. Norwich have slapped a stupid 20 million price tag on Lewis. At the sane time they want to sign the qpr left back.
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Post by thehoof on Jul 19, 2020 9:23:37 GMT
And we need better than Campbell, Verlinden and Collins as starters. Squad players that can develop but nowhere near a promotion side Don't give up on Campbell yet, he has shown his potential on numerous occasions this season, but I agree he needs to produce the goods more regularly. 9 goals in 25 starts Rob. Compare that with guy who to your credit you have defended up hill and down dale, and then see why “needs to produce the goods more regularly “ made me smile.
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 19, 2020 9:26:00 GMT
First thing we need is a leader. Too many times this season we’ve been walloped (pre and post MON joining) where the character of the team has been piss weak. We look fine when we don’t need to dig in, but as soon as we’re up against it, we crumble. I’ve said this before, we need a horrible bastard in the side who can bully the opposition and get everybody around him pulling in the same direction.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2020 9:27:39 GMT
Don't give up on Campbell yet, he has shown his potential on numerous occasions this season, but I agree he needs to produce the goods more regularly. 9 goals in 25 starts Rob. Compare that with guy who to your credit you have defended up hill and down dale, and then see why “needs to produce the goods more regularly “ made me smile. Stoke fans and young players really are odd. I’m not sure what more Campbell could have done this season. He was crap yesterday but that seems to be how people are judging now. He’s come on massively this season. Looks a totally different player to the one that went to Shrewsbury on loan. Yeah he still needs to improve at most things but he’s 20 and learning his trade still. The attitude around him from some quarters is baffling.
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Post by neddy on Jul 19, 2020 9:27:43 GMT
First thing we need is a leader. Too many times this season we’ve been walloped (pre and post MON joining) where the character of the team has been piss weak. We look fine when we don’t need to dig in, but as soon as we’re up against it, we crumble. I’ve said this before, we need a horrible bastard in the side who can bully the opposition and get everybody around him pulling in the same direction. Pearson?
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 19, 2020 9:31:44 GMT
First thing we need is a leader. Too many times this season we’ve been walloped (pre and post MON joining) where the character of the team has been piss weak. We look fine when we don’t need to dig in, but as soon as we’re up against it, we crumble. I’ve said this before, we need a horrible bastard in the side who can bully the opposition and get everybody around him pulling in the same direction. Pearson? I have a Preston supporting mate and he says he’s a bit of a liability. Let’s his team down by losing his head too many times. I don’t know that much about him tbh, but reckon he would improve us at the moment.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 19, 2020 9:31:54 GMT
Mcclean? fans favourite? Hahaha
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Post by neddy on Jul 19, 2020 9:32:47 GMT
I have a Preston supporting mate and he says he’s a bit of a liability. Let’s his team down by losing his head too many times. I don’t know that much about him tbh, but reckon he would improve us at the moment. That’s what I meant he fits the horrible bastard tag 😀
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Post by neddy on Jul 19, 2020 9:42:16 GMT
Does anyone think any of the returning loanees can be repatriated into the fold?
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Post by bolders on Jul 19, 2020 9:49:18 GMT
David Marshall, Martin Boyle, Paddy Mcnair, a new LB, is the bare minimum. We are owed a good season, regardless of the ffp rules the manager has to be backed to bring at least 3-4 faces he wants. I can't see how the club can't get some money in for Etebo and Badou, both have done well at teams at the top in turkey and Spain. The big issue is Campbell and maybe Powell will possibly attract big offers. I can see premier league teams going big on Campbell. David Marshall, back up keeper- free < £300KMartin Boyle, part of the pool of wingers, £1M < £1.5MPaddy McNair, DM, emergency RWB, £3M < £5MIf we can shift Butland £5M, Woods £2.5M Etebo £4M, BMI £2M
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 19, 2020 9:50:18 GMT
First thing we need is a leader. Too many times this season we’ve been walloped (pre and post MON joining) where the character of the team has been piss weak. We look fine when we don’t need to dig in, but as soon as we’re up against it, we crumble. I’ve said this before, we need a horrible bastard in the side who can bully the opposition and get everybody around him pulling in the same direction. Pearson? good player but headless chicken mate to many red cards
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2020 9:52:33 GMT
David Marshall, Martin Boyle, Paddy Mcnair, a new LB, is the bare minimum. We are owed a good season, regardless of the ffp rules the manager has to be backed to bring at least 3-4 faces he wants. I can't see how the club can't get some money in for Etebo and Badou, both have done well at teams at the top in turkey and Spain. The big issue is Campbell and maybe Powell will possibly attract big offers. I can see premier league teams going big on Campbell. David Marshall, back up keeper- free < £300KMartin Boyle, part of the pool of wingers, £1M < £1.5MPaddy McNair, DM, emergency RWB, £3M < £5MIf we can shift Butland £5M, Woods £2.5M Etebo £4M, BMI £2M Why would Marshall be back up?
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Post by bolders on Jul 19, 2020 10:05:27 GMT
David Marshall, back up keeper- free < £300KMartin Boyle, part of the pool of wingers, £1M < £1.5MPaddy McNair, DM, emergency RWB, £3M < £5MIf we can shift Butland £5M, Woods £2.5M Etebo £4M, BMI £2M Why would Marshall be back up? Well he would be brought in for competition with Davies* I dont care that you dont rate him. He has done really well since coming in to the team and performing how he has seeing has he has had next to no game time for most of the season so he will be a bit rusty and not fully match fit. Id like him to be given the chance next season to make the number 1 shirt his own.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2020 10:06:40 GMT
Why would Marshall be back up? Well he would be brought in for competition with Davies* I dont care that you dont rate him. He has done really well since coming in to the team and performing how he has seeing has he has had next to no game time for most of the season so he will be a bit rusty and not fully match fit. Id like him to be given the chance next season to make the number 1 shirt his own. Marshall is miles better than Davies though, it’s not a competition. And wouldn’t come here for a fight/to be back up imo.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 19, 2020 10:09:36 GMT
i would try a couple of loan signings for 12 month loans the likes of Ethan Ampadu.of chelsea maybe try for the lad gilbert 2 of chelsea, jones of liverpool looks good,just ask about them they can only tell us yes or now, pace goes a long way in football now
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 19, 2020 10:17:50 GMT
And we need better than Campbell, Verlinden and Collins as starters. Squad players that can develop but nowhere near a promotion side I disagree. Campbell has what, 9 goals from half a season? That’s more than enough to show he could get 15/20 in a full season. Collins is one of the best centre backs at his age in the world. We need to build the side around him really and let him flourish. He’s a leader too which we don’t have many of. Verlinden should be in a pool of 3/4 wingers that are all used and played yeah. He offers way more than McClean though already. The biggest issue with him Listen to your self...Collins of the best centre backs at his age in the world. On what could you possibly base that assertion? And a leader, again on what basis and evidence?In his few starts this season he has generally made mistakes and was completely at sea at Leeds. In time he could be a regular but he is nowhere near what is needed in this division to get promoted. Campbell has done okay but doesn’t do enough when he is having an off day to get himself into games. Contrast with Powell who has flair and vision but also works incredibly hard. Verlinden has yet to have a decent 90 minutes for the club, again good to use in bursts but his decision-making is awful and like Campbell, lacks real cutting edge pace.
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Post by datguy on Jul 19, 2020 10:17:55 GMT
i would try a couple of loan signings for 12 month loans the likes of Ethan Ampadu.of chelsea maybe try for the lad gilbert 2 of chelsea, jones of liverpool looks good,just ask about them they can only tell us yes or now, pace goes a long way in football now The way we’ve used the loan market in the Champo has been incompetent to say the least. We’ve let players like Mount, Wilson, Brewster, Abraham etc go to rivals whilst we’ve ended up with Martina, Williams and Chester... Hopefully that changes this summer.
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Post by bolders on Jul 19, 2020 10:22:43 GMT
i would try a couple of loan signings for 12 month loans the likes of Ethan Ampadu.of chelsea maybe try for the lad gilbert 2 of chelsea, jones of liverpool looks good,just ask about them they can only tell us yes or now, pace goes a long way in football now Think Jones has been told he will be part of the first team squad from now on Id go for Taith Chong from the shit
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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 19, 2020 10:26:31 GMT
And we need better than Campbell, Verlinden and Collins as starters. Squad players that can develop but nowhere near a promotion side I disagree. Campbell has what, 9 goals from half a season? That’s more than enough to show he could get 15/20 in a full season. Collins is one of the best centre backs at his age in the world. We need to build the side around him really and let him flourish. He’s a leader too which we don’t have many of. Verlinden should be in a pool of 3/4 wingers that are all used and played yeah. He offers way more than McClean though already. The biggest issue with him
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2020 10:39:34 GMT
I disagree. Campbell has what, 9 goals from half a season? That’s more than enough to show he could get 15/20 in a full season. Collins is one of the best centre backs at his age in the world. We need to build the side around him really and let him flourish. He’s a leader too which we don’t have many of. Verlinden should be in a pool of 3/4 wingers that are all used and played yeah. He offers way more than McClean though already. The biggest issue with him He is though. That’s why the world and his wife wanted him. He’s one of the best leaders at the club already too. He needs a run of games.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 19, 2020 10:46:12 GMT
I disagree. Campbell has what, 9 goals from half a season? That’s more than enough to show he could get 15/20 in a full season. Collins is one of the best centre backs at his age in the world. We need to build the side around him really and let him flourish. He’s a leader too which we don’t have many of. Verlinden should be in a pool of 3/4 wingers that are all used and played yeah. He offers way more than McClean though already. The biggest issue with him what i will say about collins is he as a good chance i remember bould comming into our first team he was like bamby on ice as a kid but turned into a top pro, give this lad collins a chance and he may turn out the same
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Post by bolders on Jul 19, 2020 10:46:48 GMT
He is though. That’s why the world and his wife wanted him. He’s one of the best leaders at the club already too. He needs a run of games. You right he does, just at a league 1 team to guarantee him first team minutes. We need someone ready now. He gets the mins then he takes over from Batth
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Post by juiceandbits on Jul 19, 2020 10:49:30 GMT
According to reports in Northern Ireland, O'Neill is getting a £1.5m bonus and also wants to make Paddy McNair and Jamal Lewis his first signings of the summer 1.5M well deserved and I hope he enjoys spending the money. Both of those players would improve us immensely, Lewis especially at left back. Is McNair that useful? I know there’s a lot of hype around him but his career seems to have flashed by. MON obviously rates him though. Lewis would be a fantastic signing and if we spend good money on any position it should be that. I hope we don’t have another Stephen Ward situation though where our plan a is Lewis and plan b is Brunt - unless we get both.
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Post by thehoof on Jul 19, 2020 10:54:06 GMT
I disagree. Campbell has what, 9 goals from half a season? That’s more than enough to show he could get 15/20 in a full season. Collins is one of the best centre backs at his age in the world. We need to build the side around him really and let him flourish. He’s a leader too which we don’t have many of. Verlinden should be in a pool of 3/4 wingers that are all used and played yeah. He offers way more than McClean though already. The biggest issue with him Listen to your self...Collins of the best centre backs at his age in the world. On what could you possibly base that assertion? And a leader, again on what basis and evidence?In his few starts this season he has generally made mistakes and was completely at sea at Leeds. In time he could be a regular but he is nowhere near what is needed in this division to get promoted. Campbell has done okay but doesn’t do enough when he is having an off day to get himself into games. Contrast with Powell who has flair and vision but also works incredibly hard. Verlinden has yet to have a decent 90 minutes for the club, again good to use in bursts but his decision-making is awful and like Campbell, lacks real cutting edge pace. You are being very harsh on Campbell, we haven’t seen enough of Verlinden on a regular basis but have had to put up with a strutting flamingo of a winger for over 70 games, and wee were worse at Leeds when Collins went off. Collins with a good Centre Half ( and I don’t include Batth in that, a s despite his last couple of performances has been miserable for most of the season) will do okay.
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