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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 12, 2020 15:11:13 GMT
Much better. Clucas in the 2 and Powell central in the 3 of a 4231 is key for us. Makes all the difference. 8 Didn’t play a 2. Powell was right and Clucas left of Cousins When we didn't have the ball Powell did come back but it was a 4-2-3-1 other wise.
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Post by datguy on Jul 12, 2020 15:11:20 GMT
7. Started off with the right team bar Chester, but felt his tactical changes in the second half put more pressure on us than was needed. I don't know why he constantly has to go back to his 433 comfort blanket.It was just a case of Powell being knackered, no? There was nothing tactical in it beyond us not having an advanced player on the bench and being 2-0 up.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2020 15:11:24 GMT
10 He’s got the best out of what he has at his disposal today. Desire and attitude spot on and stayed on the front foot for most of the first half. Managed the second half well enough. Yes Birmingham had more of the ball and more threatening but that’s to be expected and they never really looked like scoring. Made the subs at the right time with the right personnel.
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Post by datguy on Jul 12, 2020 15:13:13 GMT
The exact same as Barnsley really.
In possession Powell floats and is always in a position to take the ball. Much more advanced than Clucas.
When they're in possession he works his knackers off closing down and then moves to sit in between Cousins and Campbell.
Works well. The one thing that has surprised me about Powell is how bloody hard he works. Another brilliant performance.
MO'N deserves credit for Powell.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 12, 2020 15:14:33 GMT
My first thought was an 8. Yes, Birmingham were dire - especially in the first half - but to get the team to dig out that first half performance after the second half debacle against Leeds is pretty good - so I'll give him a 9. His game management was pretty good as well the subs meant the ball "stuck" up front better than it did once Campbell started to tire and Vokes' pace was becoming tested in the second half.
I must admit I was surprised that Chester got a start. Yes, Collins didn't look happy in a back 3 against Leeds - but Chester didn't do much better and I think I would have stuck with Collins in the back 4 which started this game.
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Post by lancer on Jul 12, 2020 15:30:00 GMT
Playing with a team of players that aren't his own choice,getting the result we so badly needed to stay up, his team selection was spot on. He can only pick them on what he sees in training or in the dressing room, he can't make them play. 10.
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Post by greenhoff on Jul 12, 2020 15:59:56 GMT
9 Got the selection right, even Chester did ok. Great first half with a thoroughly professional second half. Very disciplined. We never looked in trouble. More of that please!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 16:02:35 GMT
2-0 win in a absolutely huge match. I wouldn’t play Chester if he was the only fit defender but it paid off.
A huge 10. We needed it big time
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 12, 2020 16:05:14 GMT
2.0 win...never looked like conceding really...10 from me!
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Post by neddy on Jul 12, 2020 16:06:55 GMT
10 great win and clever substitutions at Leeds to keep us fresh 🤪
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 12, 2020 16:07:25 GMT
10
Had big balls to drop Butland ( I don’t buy that he was injured). Played out best xi in the best formation and ultimately won us a must win game
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 12, 2020 16:07:57 GMT
And breathe one more time... we played really well first half, were sound as necessary in the second - overall we felt in command, once again Mick's turned us around after a tonking which gets bonus points, no daft formations - a good solid day at the office 8 from me add * if you managed to sneak in is he back in the good books Sal love never wavers just being human Mick and I have the odd domestic x
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 12, 2020 16:27:08 GMT
7. Started off with the right team bar Chester, but felt his tactical changes in the second half put more pressure on us than was needed. I don't know why he constantly has to go back to his 433 comfort blanket. How did he get Chester wrong when the whole defence played well and they never looked like conceding? That's docking O'Neill for not playing your preferred player rather than the actual performance. O'Neill's preferred formation is 433. Unless you've got Liverpool or Man City's frontline I'm not convinced either but the formation is the manager's call so I don't see the point of criticising him for sticking with his professional judgement - especially as we looked pretty confident playing it, bossed the game and won. 9 for me.
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Post by Waggy on Jul 12, 2020 16:29:01 GMT
10.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jul 12, 2020 16:32:26 GMT
7. Started off with the right team bar Chester, but felt his tactical changes in the second half put more pressure on us than was needed. I don't know why he constantly has to go back to his 433 comfort blanket. We played the entire first half 433, just like we did against Barnsley. I really don't get how so many don't understand this formation.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Jul 12, 2020 16:39:35 GMT
i was one of the many who were gutted by the leeds hammering but ONeil did the right thing taking players off after 2 0 down, the 5 nil hammering was bad but this as justified it nice one Michael Would you say he did the right thing playing three at the back?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 16:41:49 GMT
i was one of the many who were gutted by the leeds hammering but ONeil did the right thing taking players off after 2 0 down, the 5 nil hammering was bad but this as justified it nice one Michael Would you say he did the right thing playing three at the back? For 44 minutes until an individual error yes......
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 12, 2020 16:52:43 GMT
Would you say he did the right thing playing three at the back? For 44 minutes until an individual error yes...... Fair enough, I wouldn't agree as it gave us pretty much nothing going forward and they were still getting chances but I get why 0-0 for 44 mins could look okay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 17:52:20 GMT
7. Started off with the right team bar Chester, but felt his tactical changes in the second half put more pressure on us than was needed. I don't know why he constantly has to go back to his 433 comfort blanket. Agree re: line up even though Chester didn't have a bad game. Very much agree with the 4 3 3 Would be really nice to see us really put our stamp on a game, all game. Powell Campbell and Clucas started to knacker though. Anyway - Rating: 8.5 Frustrates to death to see this follow up the pastings we've had. A good manager needs to get this out of them consistently. We know what works so why not go out there and do it all the time, the personnel in this team should've been doing that for the past 2 years. Anyway Butland dropped / Vokes supported up top in the first half / managed to get everyone to do their jobs. Yes they were shite, but this was a must must win and credit where it's due. I only hope we use the same formation to go at other teams instead of being scared to play the likes of the mighty Brentford.
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Post by lordb on Jul 12, 2020 17:54:47 GMT
i was one of the many who were gutted by the leeds hammering but ONeil did the right thing taking players off after 2 0 down, the 5 nil hammering was bad but this as justified it nice one Michael Would you say he did the right thing playing three at the back? He means taking the better players off at Leeds once the game was clearly lost was justified
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Post by lordb on Jul 12, 2020 17:56:33 GMT
7. Started off with the right team bar Chester, but felt his tactical changes in the second half put more pressure on us than was needed. I don't know why he constantly has to go back to his 433 comfort blanket. Agree re: line up even though Chester didn't have a bad game. Very much agree with the 4 3 3 Would be really nice to see us really put our stamp on a game, all game. Powell Campbell and Clucas started to knacker though. Anyway - Rating: 8.5 Frustrates to death to see this follow up the pastings we've had. A good manager needs to get this out of them consistently. We know what works so why not go out there and do it all the time, the personnel in this team should've been doing that for the past 2 years. Anyway Butland dropped / Vokes supported up top in the first half / managed to get everyone to do their jobs. Yes they were shite, but this was a must must win and credit where it's due. I only hope we use the same formation to go at other teams instead of being scared to play the likes of the mighty Brentford. Brentford will beat us
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Post by OldStokie on Jul 12, 2020 18:01:34 GMT
Masssive must win game after a 5-0 tonking and we win 2-0. The pressure on the manager was enormous but he kept his head better than any of us and, despite the catastrophe facing the club if we didn't win, he trusted his own judgement and got his rewards. Absolutely a 10 from me. Well done Michael O'Neil.
OS.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 12, 2020 18:18:22 GMT
10, good tactics etc
Also for dropping butland,
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jul 12, 2020 18:54:39 GMT
10 for dropping butland
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 12, 2020 18:59:09 GMT
Such a huge game and the manager remains cool and focused and gets the result. So 10 from me clearly a manager with big cahoonas...allegedly
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 12, 2020 19:59:20 GMT
Would you say he did the right thing playing three at the back? He means taking the better players off at Leeds once the game was clearly lost was justified I know, I just rather us have been in the game rather than the manager messing up so badly we were in a position to take off players because we had zero chance.
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Post by blackpoolred on Jul 12, 2020 22:37:50 GMT
Masssive must win game after a 5-0 tonking and we win 2-0. The pressure on the manager was enormous but he kept his head better than any of us and, despite the catastrophe facing the club if we didn't win, he trusted his own judgement and got his rewards. Absolutely a 10 from me. Well done Michael O'Neil. OS. Pretty much this. Said when he took over if he got us to 50pts he would deserve the keys to the town. 1 more point to go and providing we can get that point and do not take a tonking in the other 2 games that should be more than enough to keep us in this division - in my opinion Given the magnitude of the game that has to be a 10. 3 Cup finals now - keep switched on for every minute of every game and give heart nerve and sinew to try and win them all and finish as high as possible and stay upon our own merit without the help of points deductions on other teams.
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Post by lstokie on Jul 12, 2020 22:49:52 GMT
10 - Couldn't get a much better result & made a few big calls too on such a big game early on in his tenure.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 13, 2020 9:38:04 GMT
Much better. Clucas in the 2 and Powell central in the 3 of a 4231 is key for us. Makes all the difference. 8 Surely he loses marks for not starting wit Diouf?
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Post by skelman on Jul 13, 2020 9:48:33 GMT
10 Had big balls to drop Butland ( I don’t buy that he was injured). Played out best xi in the best formation and ultimately won us a must win game Agreed. I had massive reservations over the Chester selection but it worked. Wouldn't go as far as Clyde and I thought Ince gave a typical inconspicuous performance when he came on. M'ON gets 10 from me
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