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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jun 27, 2020 16:14:36 GMT
0. He was as much a part of the problem as the players today. Got the line up and approach wrong then got his changes wrong. McLean at left back, where have we seen that before?
Sorry O'Neill but you don't deserve your pay today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 16:17:35 GMT
Sack the fucking lot/10 We should've gone for Warnock, MON has got it wrong twice in a row. Is he better than the last two managers? Yeah 100% Is he good enough? Not even close. What a load of bollocks. The reason we're still in this mess is testament to how bad Nathan Jones was. Beyond wank for the past two performances, yes. To be blamed for still being in this mess, absolutely fucking not. No I reject that. Vokes alone up top doesn't work. Campbell up top alone doesn't work. Centre halves at fullback does not work. Thompson is not championship standard. He knows that as well as we do. The only times we look half decent is when we have two up top. Is he naive? No he isn't. So it's either arrogance or stupidity that led to him setting up like he did today, it was pathetic, everyone knew what was coming from warnock including him. Like I say, sack the lot.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jun 27, 2020 16:18:35 GMT
I was amazed he got above a 4 last week.
Today, it was Nathan Jones-like in set up and selection. He needs to sort out a proper central midfield pairing, play players in the best positions, tell Clucas and Powell to get fucking involved in the game, and pick Collins as his number one centre half if Ryan isnt fit.
Today stunk of relegation.
1 out of 10. Fuck knows what for.
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Post by toppercorner on Jun 27, 2020 16:18:59 GMT
Hard to give any constructive points
1 for surviving coronavirus?
Starting McClean on the right? Thompson and Sorenson together again? They're the same type of player and don't complement one another. Powell not central to start? Chester? BMI faults? Not telling Butler to at least dive?
He had done so much right before lockdown and he's fucked it all bizarrely? I don't get it.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jun 27, 2020 16:20:04 GMT
0 - a poor mans Lambert....
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Post by datguy on Jun 27, 2020 16:20:14 GMT
What a load of bollocks. The reason we're still in this mess is testament to how bad Nathan Jones was. Beyond wank for the past two performances, yes. To be blamed for still being in this mess, absolutely fucking not. No I reject that. Vokes alone up top doesn't work. Campbell up top alone doesn't work . Centre halves at fullback does not work. Thompson is not championship standard. He knows that as well as we do. The only times we look half decent is when we have two up top. Is he naive? No he isn't. So it's either arrogance or stupidity that led to him setting up like he did today, it was pathetic, everyone knew what was coming from warnock including him. Like I say, sack the lot. I'll assume you missed the end of December to half way through March with that assessment.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jun 27, 2020 16:21:22 GMT
0
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Post by pavel on Jun 27, 2020 16:21:25 GMT
3 - baffling selection again, players out of position, not playing Collins, compounding the errors of last week and not learning, playing BMI who hasn't the positional sense for left back. O'Neill's done well since he came here but he's undoing all his good work at the moment. Just pick players in their correct positions, don't go on past reputations (i.e. Chester) and put out a team to try and win the match from the start rather than trying to play it safe.
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Post by spoton on Jun 27, 2020 16:21:52 GMT
The manager was totally the wrong choice we needed someone with proven league experience especially one who knew about relegation fights, its alot different trying to get players playing for a relegation team apposed to players wanting to play for their country, hes miles out of his depth
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Post by chuckrocky on Jun 27, 2020 16:22:10 GMT
0.
Just can’t fathom what he’s been thinking with the last two starting line ups.
Players out of position, strange subs and bizarre tactics.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Jun 27, 2020 16:25:54 GMT
I’ll give him a 5 because in the end we had 3 point blank wide open nets they couldn’t put the ball in
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Post by drfishy on Jun 27, 2020 16:26:25 GMT
Post match interview will hopefully explain some of his decisions because at the moment the only explanation I can give is that Covid has truely messed him up.
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Post by potterfox1011 on Jun 27, 2020 16:27:50 GMT
1 for turning up, set up shite, line up shite, subs shite.
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Post by potterfox1011 on Jun 27, 2020 16:28:12 GMT
1 for turning up, set up shite, line up shite, subs shite.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 16:28:18 GMT
No I reject that. Vokes alone up top doesn't work. Campbell up top alone doesn't work . Centre halves at fullback does not work. Thompson is not championship standard. He knows that as well as we do. The only times we look half decent is when we have two up top. Is he naive? No he isn't. So it's either arrogance or stupidity that led to him setting up like he did today, it was pathetic, everyone knew what was coming from warnock including him. Like I say, sack the lot. I'll assume you missed the end of December to half way through March with that assessment. Assume what you like. If you think this and last game were even a remote demonstration of some football knowledge and common sense then thats fine but I disagree. look at my earlier/or any comments about GR and MJ I was dead against both from the start (and ince and afobe and chester and vokes.) they get us in this mess 100%. What I reject is how none of the blame can fall on this halfwit.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 27, 2020 16:29:49 GMT
2
That performance was more Brechin City (one of MON old sides) than Stoke City. Bags of possession, and attempts but absolute zero end result. Team looked like 11 strangers on the pitch. 10 minute spell at the start of the second half gave hope but it was quickly snuffed out. Powell getting sent off so he misses the next match has conspiracy written all over it.
Genuinely concerned at this crucial stage.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 27, 2020 16:29:53 GMT
Came in for us against Barnsley and put poor players in their strongest positions.
Did exactly the opposite today and paid the price.
The players he has brought in are just as bad as the ones he inherited.
Can't blame the manager though for players missing clear cut opportunities and getting themself sent off.
We desperately need Shawcross back in form and leading. He looked very good in pre-season which now seems years ago.
The team that is bottom at Christmas invariably gets relegated and the signs are now very ominous.
4 - we did create chances
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 27, 2020 16:37:58 GMT
5 He made some changes by half time that at least have a number if decent chances, but the misses were down to the players not him. We had 22 chances with 6 on target should have been enough for at least a point. ...but he has changed too many things in the last 2 games. It had been working so why fart about putting Clucas on the wing (though not as mad as also dropping McClean and Smith ) He also needs to work out what to do if teams close us down when passing it across the back 4.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 27, 2020 16:39:58 GMT
Horrendous Horrible team selection hopelessly unbalanced and out thought by warnock but he’s trying to compensate for the loss of the irreplaceable Allen
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Post by potterfox1011 on Jun 27, 2020 16:42:02 GMT
indi legs went last year,chester how bad was he,thomson not even a div 2 player was bringing ince on mon taking the piss.how does collins not get on above these jokers 1
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 27, 2020 16:44:22 GMT
Credit him for at least QUICKLY recognising his starting line up was unbalanced and getting overrun in midfield and Boro were walking through us. But then to bring on f'ing Ince was plain stupid. We needed steel in front of a nervy suspect back four. It should have been Cousins on, McClean back to left, Powell or Campbell to right and Clucas in middle in front of Cousins. Finishing from McClean, Powell, Ince and Vokes woeful and that coupled with lack of on field leadership alarming and didn't help his cause. Powell should be fined for his stupid petulance. Last week should have sounded alarm bells but O'Neill failed to address them. Missing Joe Allen but that shouldn't be excuse. 1 out of 10. Major action required before Tuesday.
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Post by Sfance on Jun 27, 2020 16:45:33 GMT
Oh dear!
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Post by robrigo on Jun 27, 2020 16:49:40 GMT
We are fucked, simple as that. Back to where we were, football obscurity awaits.
Rating 0.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 27, 2020 16:50:21 GMT
Very spiky on Radio Stoke now. Good.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 27, 2020 16:50:37 GMT
A very generous 3, wrong team selection, too late with subs, I like McLean but he isn't a right winger or a left back. I understand the need to rotate with so many games coming up but playing novices and players out of place doesn't do it. The team lacks motivation until the last 20 minutes. Barn doors missed from 12 yards doesnt impress. We are in trouble.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 27, 2020 16:52:03 GMT
0 for management. 10 for putting up with these spineless fuckers!
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 27, 2020 16:52:48 GMT
A big fat fucking zero
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Post by blackpoolred on Jun 27, 2020 16:55:38 GMT
2
Allen is a massive loss. We literally have nothing for the opposition to worry about. The one or two players that were hitting form before the break seem to have regressed.
We know we have lack of numbers and quality in defence, which is making the manager pick a midfield to try and protect it.
This is Stoke so we were never going to come back and win the first couple of games and make life easy.
We murdered them on the stats today and stats are normally a good form indicator so we will take some heart from that - where there is life and all that.
Very worrying though
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Post by loosestools on Jun 27, 2020 16:56:32 GMT
0. Schooled by a 71 year old Colin Wanker. In less than a week. He probably hasn't even found the bogs yet. A great big fat 0 from me.
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Post by liathroid on Jun 27, 2020 17:03:00 GMT
Colin made us look like a team of donkeys (apart from Ince) and apart from a few minutes after the break Mick really didn't have much to offer in return. Ok getting bombproof defensive routines back is the hardest thing to do after a long break but we're in major trouble if we don't. Weak management today. Everything Colin got right about grabbing the initiative and keeping it, we got wrong. And all that was bad last week came back whereas all that was good at Reading, was gone. A generous 4 from me add * if by chance you sneaked in please not much love for Mick this week ,SAL
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