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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 3, 2024 12:42:57 GMT
Who knows🤷♂️infact who cares,fookin weirdo’s Agreed. I don’t see why anyone needs to talk about trans people. They represent such a small % of a population. It’s odd that they are brought up so often.
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Post by phileetin on Apr 3, 2024 13:41:19 GMT
i didn't realise that the wife of SIR kier starmer was jewish ...
do you think that that is why threads like this is attractive to folks who are normally pro labour ?
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Post by foster on Apr 3, 2024 13:44:02 GMT
i didn't realise that the wife of SIR kier starmer was jewish ... do you think that that is why threads like this is attractive to folks who are normally pro labour ? Not at all. Stupid comment tbh. No one even knew about that or gives a fuck about that.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 3, 2024 14:06:16 GMT
i didn't realise that the wife of SIR kier starmer was jewish ... do you think that that is why threads like this is attractive to folks who are normally pro labour ? Spit it out chief, if you're going to accuse folk of what I think you are have the balls to name names. And then be prepared to back it up with evidence. These fake cries of antisemitism are getting pretty fucking tedious though........
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2024 14:09:12 GMT
i didn't realise that the wife of SIR kier starmer was jewish ... do you think that that is why threads like this is attractive to folks who are normally pro labour ? Spit it out chief, if you're going to accuse folk of what I think you are have the balls to name names. And then be prepared to back it up with evidence. These fake cries of antisemitism are getting pretty fucking tedious though........
He doesn't have to apparently.
Nowadays, it seems you can suggest anything you like on the Oatcake and you are perfectly entitled to do so because it's just your personal 'opinion'.
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Post by foster on Apr 3, 2024 14:14:07 GMT
Spit it out chief, if you're going to accuse folk of what I think you are have the balls to name names. And then be prepared to back it up with evidence. These fake cries of antisemitism are getting pretty fucking tedious though........ He doesn't have to apparently. Nowadays, it seems you can suggest anything you like on the Oatcake and you are perfectly entitled to do so because it's just your personal 'opinion'. He'd get 7 years for this in Scotland
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Post by phileetin on Apr 4, 2024 11:37:55 GMT
i didn't realise that the wife of SIR kier starmer was jewish ... do you think that that is why threads like this is attractive to folks who are normally pro labour ? Spit it out chief, if you're going to accuse folk of what I think you are have the balls to name names. And then be prepared to back it up with evidence. These fake cries of antisemitism are getting pretty fucking tedious though........ evidence ?
circumstantial ? coincidence ? but , the same folks who are anti israel on the israel thread and anti tory on the anti tory thread and pro labour on every thing else are the same ones who are anti starmer on here ?
everybody seems to find something to slag tories off in their private lives and i stumbled on this and suggested it might be an issue for some folks and possibly an issue in the future for him as leader of what has openly been accused of being an anti semitic party ?
a valid point for discussion , surely it wouldn't be illegal in Scotland ?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 4, 2024 11:53:03 GMT
Spit it out chief, if you're going to accuse folk of what I think you are have the balls to name names. And then be prepared to back it up with evidence. These fake cries of antisemitism are getting pretty fucking tedious though........ evidence ?
circumstantial ? coincidence ? but , the same folks who are anti israel on the israel thread and anti tory on the anti tory thread and pro labour on every thing else are the same ones who are anti starmer on here ?
everybody seems to find something to slag tories off in their private lives and i stumbled on this and suggested it might be an issue for some folks and possibly an issue in the future for him as leader of what has openly been accused of being an anti semitic party ?
a valid point for discussion , surely it wouldn't be illegal in Scotland ?
But you specifically highlighted the fact that Starmer's wife was Jewish, so what are you getting at? At least have the courage to back it up.
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Post by gawa on Apr 5, 2024 9:08:15 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 7, 2024 8:58:57 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 7, 2024 9:21:20 GMT
Who knows🤷♂️infact who cares,fookin weirdo’s Agreed. I don’t see why anyone needs to talk about trans people. They represent such a small % of a population. It’s odd that they are brought up so often. They get brought up because the media and just about every big corporate going are ramming down societies throats at every opportunity. Even our own government went through this mental period where they refused describe what a female was and we've seen anti woman laws in Scotland now which defy all sense of reason. Quite why is anyone's guess given, as you rightly point out, the hostile trans mob represent a tiny % of the population. I guess a lot of this stems from very recent times and the JK Rowling comments, which again, to the vast majority of reasonable Brits made total sense. History tells us, the more authoritarian this subject gets, and the more it gets pushed on the British people, the more push back it will get - And quite right too.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 7, 2024 10:53:49 GMT
Brilliantly explained as usual by Peter Osborne, there are very few Journalists who are highlighting the path our Government and Opposition are societally leading us down in "the Mother of all Parliaments" Starmer and Hoyle being possibly investigated by the Privileges Committee is a new Twist as the 3 Deputy Speakers had previously turned down such a request as it would infringe on the confidentiality of conversations between the Speaker and MPs and it would break precedent.... you couldn't make it up. The Conservatives are desperate to fight the GE on this issue and the Leader of the House Penny Mordant is determined to push through a HoC Vote to make it happen I'm not that bothered by the motivation it's an Inquiry that should happen but I fear if it does and its findings published they will be manipulated in certain MSM
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Post by andystokey on Apr 7, 2024 15:18:07 GMT
Brilliantly explained as usual by Peter Osborne, there are very few Journalists who are highlighting the path our Government and Opposition are societally leading us down in "the Mother of all Parliaments" Starmer and Hoyle being possibly investigated by the Privileges Committee is a new Twist as the 3 Deputy Speakers had previously turned down such a request as it would infringe on the confidentiality of conversations between the Speaker and MPs and it would break precedent.... you couldn't make it up. The Conservatives are desperate to fight the GE on this issue and the Leader of the House Penny Mordant is determined to push through a HoC Vote to make it happen I'm not that bothered by the motivation it's an Inquiry that should happen but I fear if it does and its findings published they will be manipulated in certain MSM The phrase "threat to democracy" is always used by the politicsl elite against a group of citizens. The reality of the threat is, and always has been, by the ruling elite not the citizenry. The only real risk to democracy has ever been by those that occupy that place. It's almost as if democracy doesn't work unless there is an imaginary threat to it.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 8, 2024 9:54:02 GMT
Every single word absolutely on point and the last 5 minutes especially, explaining why, for so many traditional Labour voters, it is going to be hard to vote for Starmer at the next election.
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Post by gawa on Apr 8, 2024 23:08:26 GMT
What 5 million buys you in 2024
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Post by gawa on Apr 8, 2024 23:33:33 GMT
Brilliantly explained as usual by Peter Osborne, there are very few Journalists who are highlighting the path our Government and Opposition are societally leading us down in "the Mother of all Parliaments" Starmer and Hoyle being possibly investigated by the Privileges Committee is a new Twist as the 3 Deputy Speakers had previously turned down such a request as it would infringe on the confidentiality of conversations between the Speaker and MPs and it would break precedent.... you couldn't make it up. The Conservatives are desperate to fight the GE on this issue and the Leader of the House Penny Mordant is determined to push through a HoC Vote to make it happen I'm not that bothered by the motivation it's an Inquiry that should happen but I fear if it does and its findings published they will be manipulated in certain MSM I disagree with you here wannabe. Of the 90 votes of no confidence in the speaker, less than 40 were from the conservative majority government. They doubled down agreeing with the speakers comments with Sunak holding an emergency bloody broadcast at tea time on the Friday to tell us all about the risks to MP safety from extremists. The privileges committee consists of 4 tory, 2 Labour and 1 SNP. Of which only the SNP signed a vote of no confidence. Like where are tories gonna gain votes from on this? They're not interested because it isn't politically beneficial.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 9, 2024 0:55:44 GMT
Brilliantly explained as usual by Peter Osborne, there are very few Journalists who are highlighting the path our Government and Opposition are societally leading us down in "the Mother of all Parliaments" Starmer and Hoyle being possibly investigated by the Privileges Committee is a new Twist as the 3 Deputy Speakers had previously turned down such a request as it would infringe on the confidentiality of conversations between the Speaker and MPs and it would break precedent.... you couldn't make it up. The Conservatives are desperate to fight the GE on this issue and the Leader of the House Penny Mordant is determined to push through a HoC Vote to make it happen I'm not that bothered by the motivation it's an Inquiry that should happen but I fear if it does and its findings published they will be manipulated in certain MSM I disagree with you here wannabe. Of the 90 votes of no confidence in the speaker, less than 40 were from the conservative majority government. They doubled down agreeing with the speakers comments with Sunak holding an emergency bloody broadcast at tea time on the Friday to tell us all about the risks to MP safety from extremists. The privileges committee consists of 4 tory, 2 Labour and 1 SNP. Of which only the SNP signed a vote of no confidence. Like where are tories gonna gain votes from on this? They're not interested because it isn't politically beneficial. You are quite entitled to disagree with anything i post but you are talking about an entirely different subject than what I posted about You are talking about the shenanigans which occurred relating to the *no confidence vote on the Speaker Lindsey Hoyle What I posted about is the current attempts by the Conservative Party to have Keir Starmer, and by association Lindsey Hoyle's interactions referred to the Privileges Committee (I think they should) This would require making space in the Calendar of HoC to Vote on whether it should happen or not by a Vote in HoC. If carried it would then go to Privileges Committee to examine and as you say there are 4 Cons 2 Lab and 1 SNP on the Committee. If the Privileges Committee examined it they could either dismiss or recommend sanction of Starmer and/or Hoyle, if the later the the Sanction deemed appropriate would then be voted on in HoC. *By Supreme Irony the No Confidence Motion in Hoyle was sponsored by William Wragg who seemingly had no confidence in Hoyle carrying out his duties as Speaker - albeit his fellow Conservative MPs have every confidence in Wragg carrying out his duties as an MP despite his recent revelations.... you couldn't make this shit up.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 9, 2024 7:28:52 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Apr 9, 2024 13:21:47 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 11, 2024 17:27:21 GMT
Lee Harpin phone hacker spreading misinformation on the Mayor election in teesside. Labour must be shook about the thought of losing to an independant. No doubt the postal vote will see them through.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 11, 2024 21:40:13 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 11, 2024 23:52:02 GMT
If he's put under any pressure or scrutiny leading up to the election he'll fold like a cheap suit........
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 17, 2024 18:29:47 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 18, 2024 10:37:10 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Apr 18, 2024 11:23:13 GMT
I'm not sure why how Rees-Mogg or indeed Mandelson made their money isn't open to everyone. I accept that having powerful contacts and name recognition will definitely help. Why I object to Rees-Mogg is his hypocrisy. He vigorously campaigned for Brexit then moved his Hedge Fund to Dublin as he was no longer able to operate from UK. Nothing illegal in that and many other Financial Organisations and Distribution Companies have done the same. In any case let's hope Mandelson promptly pays the Capital Gains Tax on his £10.5M windfall unlike Nadim Zahawi who sold a similar type company YouGov for £27M and tried to avoid paying any Capital Gains Tax even while he was Chancellor of the Exchequer
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Post by wannabee on Apr 18, 2024 11:29:29 GMT
I think I could embrace Dull for a few years.... there I've said it!
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Post by desman2 on Apr 18, 2024 11:31:23 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Apr 19, 2024 3:46:48 GMT
This is worth a read 😬
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Post by gawa on Apr 19, 2024 16:56:33 GMT
Always good to see labours vote share going down despite what polls of a 1000 people tell us.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2024 11:26:32 GMT
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