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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 20:53:49 GMT
Honestly it’s getting embarrassing.....
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Post by 1982stokie on Mar 2, 2020 20:54:42 GMT
You shouldn’t relay on other people’s results, every result seem to be going against us the bottom teams are all finding form.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 2, 2020 20:55:47 GMT
31 points since he came in and you’re slagging the manager off for 2 draws away from home🤔 I think he’s done a good job, but he’s not beyond reproach. He keeps bringing on a 5th defender and on Saturday it bit him firmly on the arse. Had Graham not have shinned it, then it would’ve happened at Blackburn too. The removal of all attacking threat was a totally suicidal move in a huge game on Saturday. I totally agree he’s not beyond reproach but I think you’re being a tad harsh personally.I think his Northern Ireland mentality may have taken over at Luton and he must have thought defending was our best chance of winning after the our half time lead.In hindsight he was wrong but he was also very close to pulling it off.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Mar 2, 2020 20:56:52 GMT
Forest defence looking very nervous.
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Post by towraytek on Mar 2, 2020 20:57:44 GMT
That Forest keeper is having a bit of a 'mare isn't he?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 2, 2020 20:59:20 GMT
I've seen Forest 3 times this season and on each occasion they've been absolutely shite. Tonight is no different.
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Post by ibby on Mar 2, 2020 20:59:23 GMT
Boro playing well.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Mar 2, 2020 21:01:41 GMT
Because we have FlapJack Butland in goal, a circus of a back 4 and a manager requiring new underwear And a snowflake on the oatcake 'FANzine'. What’s all the fuss about Peter?
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 2, 2020 21:02:12 GMT
when a sub comes on, and tbe coach has a clipboard telling him what to do, does the sub take any notice of it?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 2, 2020 21:03:13 GMT
I think he’s done a good job, but he’s not beyond reproach. He keeps bringing on a 5th defender and on Saturday it bit him firmly on the arse. Had Graham not have shinned it, then it would’ve happened at Blackburn too. The removal of all attacking threat was a totally suicidal move in a huge game on Saturday. I totally agree he’s not beyond reproach but I think you’re being a tad harsh personally.I think his Northern Ireland mentality may have taken over at Luton and he must have thought defending was our best chance of winning after the our half time lead.In hindsight he was wrong but he was also very close to pulling it off. Did it really bite us on the arse? I was never worried. Not even for 1 second and I was thinking our play in keeping hold of the ball (did they even touch it other than to kick it out for a throw in between 85-90 minutes) was excellent and something we rarely see. We are normally all hands to the pump, panic stations at the ready and we were seeing the game out easily. We then conceded a penalty that wasn't a penalty and I'm not sure you can really legislate for what Chester attempted or the referee seemingly fabricated. We simply aren't a very good team. We rarely put teams to the sword because we are crap and we waste countless good opportunities where we barely even muster a shot. Ince's 2 misses are inexcusable in reality and Vokes should also have scored before he did.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 2, 2020 21:05:29 GMT
Best thing to do is lump on at 6/1 to be relgated it may soften the blow, can't honestly see any other outcome If that's the case, to use a well worn phrase, you should fuck off up the Vale. Of course you're entitled to your opinions. Similarly I'm entitled to say you should fuck off up the Vale.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 2, 2020 21:10:06 GMT
I totally agree he’s not beyond reproach but I think you’re being a tad harsh personally.I think his Northern Ireland mentality may have taken over at Luton and he must have thought defending was our best chance of winning after the our half time lead.In hindsight he was wrong but he was also very close to pulling it off. Did it really bite us on the arse? I was never worried. Not even for 1 second and I was thinking our play in keeping hold of the ball (did they even touch it other than to kick it out for a throw in between 85-90 minutes) was excellent and something we rarely see. We are normally all hands to the pump, panic stations at the ready and we were seeing the game out easily. We then conceded a penalty that wasn't a penalty and I'm not sure you can really legislate for what Chester attempted or the referee seemingly fabricated. We simply aren't a very good team. We rarely put teams to the sword because we are crap and we waste countless good opportunities where we barely even muster a shot. Ince's 2 misses are inexcusable in reality and Vokes should also have scored before he did. I agree it was never a pen in a million years Dave and a different ref may not have given it but I think a lot of fans expected us to push on 2nd half and get the 2nd goal.Fine margins mate especially in this league
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Post by 1982stokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:10:13 GMT
I totally agree he’s not beyond reproach but I think you’re being a tad harsh personally.I think his Northern Ireland mentality may have taken over at Luton and he must have thought defending was our best chance of winning after the our half time lead.In hindsight he was wrong but he was also very close to pulling it off. Did it really bite us on the arse? I was never worried. Not even for 1 second and I was thinking our play in keeping hold of the ball (did they even touch it other than to kick it out for a throw in between 85-90 minutes) was excellent and something we rarely see. We are normally all hands to the pump, panic stations at the ready and we were seeing the game out easily. We then conceded a penalty that wasn't a penalty and I'm not sure you can really legislate for what Chester attempted or the referee seemingly fabricated. We simply aren't a very good team. We rarely put teams to the sword because we are crap and we waste countless good opportunities where we barely even muster a shot. Ince's 2 misses are inexcusable in reality and Vokes should also have scored before he did. This is one thing that really annoys me we get opportunities to break and are to slow and ponderous, Ince more often than not misses the target and we seem in capable of finding the right ball in the final third any time we dominate teams we rarely make them pay,
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Post by robstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:10:13 GMT
Honestly it’s getting embarrassing..... Too true - lets put it this way, 11 games and coming into the new year we were above the relegation zone on goal difference. Since then we have picked up 18 points from those 11 games (W5 D3 L3) yet we now find ourselves back in there despite being on form that, across a season, would put us in or around the play offs. We just need to keep on going - its going to be one of those seasons where we are going to need 53-4 points to stay up in my honest opinion. Im still confident we can do it, but we need to keep our heads and keep picking up points at home in particular. Its so tight - win on Saturday and, if results go for us too, we could be 17th. Its just bizarre.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:10:21 GMT
Best thing to do is lump on at 6/1 to be relgated it may soften the blow, can't honestly see any other outcome If that's the case, to use a well worn phrase, you should fuck off up the Vale. Of course you're entitled to your opinions. Similarly I'm entitled to say you should fuck off up the Vale. He prefers Man City
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:10:47 GMT
Best thing to do is lump on at 6/1 to be relgated it may soften the blow, can't honestly see any other outcome If that's the case, to use a well worn phrase, you should fuck off up the Vale. Of course you're entitled to your opinions. Similarly I'm entitled to say you should fuck off up the Vale. Bit harsh fella We really look like we are in a precarious situation by our own making
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Post by stokemark on Mar 2, 2020 21:11:05 GMT
Issue here is that, despite the glossy ‘haven’t lost in last 3’ we have only won one in 5
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:11:27 GMT
Honestly it’s getting embarrassing..... Too true - lets put it this way, 11 games and coming into the new year we were above the relegation zone on goal difference. Since then we have picked up 18 points from those 11 games (W5 D3 L3) yet we now find ourselves back in there despite being on form that, across a season, would put us in or around the play offs. We just need to keep on going - its going to be one of those seasons where we are going to need 53-4 points to stay up in my honest opinion. Im still confident we can do it, but we need to keep our heads and keep picking up points at home in particular We are sixth in the form leave since christmas
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:11:56 GMT
Issue here is that, despite the glossy ‘haven’t lost in last 3’ we have only won one in 5 Spot on
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:12:27 GMT
If that's the case, to use a well worn phrase, you should fuck off up the Vale. Of course you're entitled to your opinions. Similarly I'm entitled to say you should fuck off up the Vale. Bit harsh fella We really look like we are in a precarious situation by our own making Arent all teams?
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Post by rosco on Mar 2, 2020 21:12:27 GMT
We're in control of our own destiny. We can't blame anyone else, we have winnable games. What will be will be.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:13:02 GMT
Too true - lets put it this way, 11 games and coming into the new year we were above the relegation zone on goal difference. Since then we have picked up 18 points from those 11 games (W5 D3 L3) yet we now find ourselves back in there despite being on form that, across a season, would put us in or around the play offs. We just need to keep on going - its going to be one of those seasons where we are going to need 53-4 points to stay up in my honest opinion. Im still confident we can do it, but we need to keep our heads and keep picking up points at home in particular We are sixth in the form leave since christmas And still in the bottom 3
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:14:07 GMT
We are sixth in the form leave since christmas And still in the bottom 3 Yes, because of the awful start not down to O'neill.
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Post by saturday on Mar 2, 2020 21:14:14 GMT
Thank God MON came or it would have been a lot worse.
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Post by towraytek on Mar 2, 2020 21:15:22 GMT
Meanwhile, no sign of life at all from Forest
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 2, 2020 21:15:46 GMT
If that's the case, to use a well worn phrase, you should fuck off up the Vale. Of course you're entitled to your opinions. Similarly I'm entitled to say you should fuck off up the Vale. Bit harsh fella We really look like we are in a precarious situation by our own making Agreed. But some of the pessimism is a form of posturing.
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Post by robstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:15:53 GMT
Too true - lets put it this way, 11 games and coming into the new year we were above the relegation zone on goal difference. Since then we have picked up 18 points from those 11 games (W5 D3 L3) yet we now find ourselves back in there despite being on form that, across a season, would put us in or around the play offs. We just need to keep on going - its going to be one of those seasons where we are going to need 53-4 points to stay up in my honest opinion. Im still confident we can do it, but we need to keep our heads and keep picking up points at home in particular We are sixth in the form leave since christmas Its just unfortunate Wigan are probably 4th or 5th, most seasons, we wouldnt be quite safe, but we would have a buffer to the bottom 3 and be probably closer to lower mid-table, with an eye of sneaking in there with a good finish - still, rather be in this position (the odds are still against Barnsley and Luton really) of being in a realistic 7 way scrap for 1 relegation place than where we were back then - 4 teams cut adrift with only 1 staying up.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 2, 2020 21:15:56 GMT
Did it really bite us on the arse? I was never worried. Not even for 1 second and I was thinking our play in keeping hold of the ball (did they even touch it other than to kick it out for a throw in between 85-90 minutes) was excellent and something we rarely see. We are normally all hands to the pump, panic stations at the ready and we were seeing the game out easily. We then conceded a penalty that wasn't a penalty and I'm not sure you can really legislate for what Chester attempted or the referee seemingly fabricated. We simply aren't a very good team. We rarely put teams to the sword because we are crap and we waste countless good opportunities where we barely even muster a shot. Ince's 2 misses are inexcusable in reality and Vokes should also have scored before he did. I agree it was never a pen in a million years Dave and a different ref may not have given it but I think a lot of fans expected us to push on 2nd half and get the 2nd goal.Fine margins mate especially in this league We had chances and situations throughout the 2nd half but we simply aren't good enough to make anything of them most of the time. I've lost count of the amount of situations we create only to not even muster a shot. We had several of those 2nd half, Ince, Allen, Clucas and Powell all guilty parties. The manager shored things us after Jack had spilled one into the strikers path and almost dropped one in his own net. Was that the wrong thing to do? They never got near our goal again thereafter and we were cruising to as comfortable a 1-0 win that a side as bad as us can have until that late penalty incident where inexplicably, there lad wasn't even heading towards our goal.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 2, 2020 21:16:38 GMT
Meanwhile, no sign of life at all from Forest They're offering nowt. Hopefully they are this wank on the last day.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 2, 2020 21:17:09 GMT
We are sixth in the form leave since christmas Its just unfortunate Wigan are probably 4th or 5th, most seasons, we wouldnt be quite safe, but we would have a buffer to the bottom 3 and be probably closer to lower mid-table, with an eye of sneaking in there with a good finish - still, rather be in this position (the odds are still against Barnsley and Luton really) of being in a realistic 7 way scrap for 1 relegation place than where we were back then - 4 teams cut adrift with only 1 staying up. 5th Wigan
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